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3 minutes ago, Aussie Joe said:


Did he use the word “retire “? Must have missed that … the quote I heard was that he would be prepared to come back next year ..but only with Buffalo …. 
 

 

Yes, Marino said that yesterday 

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Just now, Aussie Joe said:


He is directly quoted as saying “ I’m not retiring , but the Buffalo Bills are the only option”…

 

 

This Bills or retirement might be his only options. Buffalo is the only place he produced

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Just now, Aussie Joe said:


He is directly quoted as saying “ I’m not retiring , but the Buffalo Bills are the only option”…

 

 

He’s only playing for Bills going forward.  Joe said it’s great to have Jordan, if we need him at any point in the season

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1 minute ago, uticaclub said:

This Bills or retirement might be his only options. Buffalo is the only place he produced


He doesn’t want to play for chump change any where else

Just now, Pete said:

He’s only playing for Bills going forward.  Joe said it’s great to have Jordan, if we need him at any point in the season


Fine …I’m just correcting that you said he had retired 👍

Posted
5 hours ago, Julio Hopkins said:

Cooper only played 32 snaps in the Chiefs game and 21 snaps in the Ravens game.  Literally no point in bringing him back if they won't use him.  

Really could've used more from him against KC. He was great in the first matchup. I'm not understanding the plan for him, truthfully. You give up a 3rd round pick and barely involve the man. 

Posted
1 minute ago, Aussie Joe said:


He doesn’t want to play for chump change any where else


Fine …I’m just correcting that you said he had retired 👍

If Bills don’t call, he’s not playing 

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13 hours ago, Sojourner said:


The money better be going to a proven guy who isn’t on this roster at one of the following positions. 
 

DE

CB

WR

 

They’ve all shown me enough who are warranting sizable contracts that they’re not worth it sadly. 
 

(Groot/Douglas/Amari)

Groot, Benford and Cook Id extend.  Need to bring in a FA and one of those positions.  

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13 hours ago, EmotionallyUnstable said:

These are non-essential pieces.

 

The bigger moves will be the guys who are in line for extensions. Who does Beane see as a priority? 
 

Groot

Benford

Bernard

Shakir

Cook

 

These moves will mold the future. Which of these guys do we see locked up long term? Which will hit their contract year playing out their final deal? 

 

My guess if they extend Groot and Benford, Shakir would be the next one on my list. I think they’ll play out Cook and Bernard.

 

 

 

Rousseau could be a monster DE2 opposite a guy like Crosby, but he's not a DE1 on a team that doesn't have an elite playmaker at DT or DE.   The price tag for him, on our end, should reflect that.

 

Benford is a play out his contract next year and then let him go.  He hasn't been healthy when it matters in every single playoff run we've had with him.  He's a very good cover corner, but he's not elite.  

 

Bernard, like Rousseau, should depend on the number.  He's good, not elite, and he's undersized which year in/year out is an issue with this Defense.  If we bulk up the DL in front of him, that should help.

 

Shakir is a re-sign unless he wants ridiculous money.

 

Same for Cook, re-sign unless he wants ridiculous money. 

 

For me, in summary..  Shakir & Cook are 80/20 re-sign guys.   Rousseau and Bernard are 50/50.  Benford is 10/90.. I just don't think he's a smart 20M CB investment at all. 

 

Draft a bunch of corners in RD4/RD5 this year to get them a year in the system and then give Rousseau Benford's money IF we get a playmaker on the DL and he balls out as the 2nd/3rd piece with Oliver. 

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4 minutes ago, SCBills said:

 

Rousseau could be a monster DE2 opposite a guy like Crosby, but he's not a DE1 on a team that doesn't have an elite playmaker at DT or DE.   The price tag for him, on our end, should reflect that.

 

 

Draft a bunch of corners in RD4/RD5 this year to get them a year in the system and then give Rousseau Benford's money IF we get a playmaker on the DL and he balls out as the 2nd/3rd piece with Oliver. 


I agree with a lot of your points … but actually in regards to your last point …I’m starting to come around to the position that they need better athletes in the secondary…. McD can “get by” with lesser athletes there ,,,until we get to the elites in the playoffs and they get shredded …if they are not re- signing Benford then I think they should take a swing on a CB early in this next draft  and hopefully have him as your main guy in 2026 if you hit and let Benford go …

 

In regards to Rousseau…I was very disappointed with his performance last week … I don’t think he is going to be the difference make I had hoped for … my off season pipe dream I’m going to hang onto for a bit is to use him in a trade for Crosby or Garrett…

Posted (edited)
14 hours ago, Donuts and Doritos said:

Bill's Free Agents this off-season (post news here about Bills free agents and targets):

 

Unrestricted Free Agents

 

WR Amari Cooper

 

CB Rasul Douglas

 

OT Tommy Doyle

 

LS Reid Ferguson

 

FB Reggie Gilliam

 

S Demar Hamlin

 

WR Mack Hollins

 

DT Quinton Jefferson

 

DT Austin Johnson

 

RB Ty Johnson

 

DT Jordan Phillips

 

DE Dawuane Smoot

 

Restricted/Exclusive-Rights Free Agents

 

OT Alec Anderson

 

QB Shane Buechele

 

OT Ryan Van Demark

 

TE Quintin Morris

 

 

Bills' 2025 Free Agents, Targets and Draft Needs After NFL Playoff Loss https://search.app/BBMp8aLwP5Yvh7sf9

 

 

Bring back Q ,Van Dermark is already back, Anderson, Smoot, Phillips, TY Definitely, Hollins for sure, Gilliam, and Ferguson could be had for a vet minimum contract as far as the rest not real sure . Coop maybe but he might want a bigger contract unless he likes being on the winning side of things which he never has until now so maybe for the right price .

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1 hour ago, Aussie Joe said:


He is directly quoted as saying “ I’m not retiring , but the Buffalo Bills are the only option”…

 

 

 

I have always loved this guys energy since he was here the first time and he always leaves it all out on the field, he has that Bills thing and he made some plays for us this year although his time here was short i'm even thinking about getting his jersey to add to my collection .

 

I really hope to see him on the team next year, he will be 33 this year but given the Bills rotation i think he's good and it's only year 9 in the NFL for him and he has shown he has a bit left in the tank he's just a Bills kind of guy and could be had for a decent contract plus his size 6' 6" 341 lbs is something the Bills need in the middle of the D line .

 

Draft the next Phillips this year and have him mentor the youngster this season which more than likely could be his last and then the future of the Bills D line could look much better ! Jones is 34 so i'm pretty sure he's gone but Phillips could help . 

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I wouldn't re-sign or sign any player who is 29 or older.  Bills need to get out of that business.  

 

I wouldn't extend any of the extension-eligible players this year.  That's just repeating the Ed Oliver mistake for Rousseau and Benford - paying great money for good production, and you can't do that too many times.  As for Cook, there is no reason to extend his contract - the Bills are getting the value right now.    

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Posted
15 hours ago, Sojourner said:

IMO, Absolute musts:


Reid Ferguson

Mack Hollins


Wouldn’t be opposed:

 

Ty Johnson

Reggie Gilliam

 

The rest? They can be replaced. Amari and Douglas had their moments but for their price tags I feel you can do better for absolute key needs. 

 

Agreed.

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Just now, T master said:

 

I have always loved this guys energy since he was here the first time and he always leaves it all out on the field, he has that Bills thing and he made some plays for us this year although his time here was short i'm even thinking about getting his jersey to add to my collection .

 

I really hope to see him on the team next year, he will be 33 this year but given the Bills rotation i think he's good and it's only year 9 in the NFL for him and he has shown he has a bit left in the tank he's just a Bills kind of guy and could be had for a decent contract plus his size 6' 6" 341 lbs is something the Bills need in the middle of the D line .

 

Draft the next Phillips this year and have him mentor the youngster this season which more than likely could be his last and then the future of the Bills D line could look much better ! Jones is 34 so i'm pretty sure he's gone but Phillips could help . 


I said earlier that he made that play at the end of the game last week which helped give them one more chance at the end …. No other non starter on the team  made any impact throughout the game that I  can recall…


I would give him an opportunity to try and come back as a depth guy at a minimum deal type contract with a very small guaranteed portion …. If he wins the position then great … if not then no harm done…

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5 minutes ago, Aussie Joe said:


I said earlier that he made that play at the end of the game last week which helped give them one more chance at the end …. No other non starter on the team  made any impact throughout the game that I  can recall…


I would give him an opportunity to try and come back as a depth guy at a minimum deal type contract with a very small guaranteed portion …. If he wins the position then great … if not then no harm done…

 

Agree minimum deal with some incentives to motivate him a bit more :thumbsup: .

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15 hours ago, Donuts and Doritos said:

Bill's Free Agents this off-season (post news here about Bills free agents and targets):

 

Unrestricted Free Agents

 

WR Amari Cooper     His presence made a difference. If he's interested in staying, I would consider keeping him.

 

CB Rasul Douglas     He's been good for us, but he's on the decline. Let him walk.

 

OT Tommy Doyle     We still don't know what we have with him. Injuries have been tough, but he keeps coming back. At the very least he is good depth, and wouldn't be expensive. Keep him.

 

LS Reid Ferguson     Provides stability, and won't be expensive.

 

FB Reggie Gilliam     We could probably find someone younger for this position, unless they really love his Special Teams play.

 

S Demar Hamlin     He played better this season than I thought he would. Could go either way here.

 

WR Mack Hollins     YES! Re-sign him! Not a superstar, but he's an important player for us.

 

DT Quinton Jefferson     A late emergency signing. He can go.

 

DT Austin Johnson     Provides depth, but can probably find someone else like him.

 

RB Ty Johnson     Would love to have him back. Keeping this trio of running backs together would be great.

 

DT Jordan Phillips     See Quinton Jefferson.

 

DE Dawuane Smoot     I'm good with bringing him back, he made plays.

 

Restricted/Exclusive-Rights Free Agents

 

OT Alec Anderson     Obvious keeper

 

QB Shane Buechele     Why not? Extra camp arm.

 

OT Ryan Van Demark

 

TE Quintin Morris     Unsure. We could find someone else to be our 3rd Tight End.

 

 

Bills' 2025 Free Agents, Targets and Draft Needs After NFL Playoff Loss https://search.app/BBMp8aLwP5Yvh7sf9

 

 

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None of them are must signs, IMO.  We don't have a single player on there that opposing team are "afraid" of and can't be replaced.  

 

My #1 priority is getting Tee Higgins.  Josh has the worst surrounding cast of any QB in the divisional and conference championship round.  In fact, he has the worst cast of any top 5 QB in the NFL.  It's wayyy beyond time to fix that, and a pick at #30 won't do it.  Beyond Higgins, the only top WR available is Godwin, and he is 4 years older than Higgins.  Spotrac has Higgins at 25.4/yr, Godwin at 22.5/yr.  Other interesting FAs who would be secondary are our own Hollins who we paid 2.6 this year, Robert Woods (only 31 somehow) at 1.4/yr, Elijai Moore at 4.5, James Palmar at 4.3, and Tutu Atwell at 4.0.   But we need to come away with Higgins, or at the very least Godwin.  We can't sign anyone that jeopardizes our ability to get one of them.  

 

Internally, my priority in-order are:: Ty Johnson, Hollins, Hamlin (good backup/fringe starter, upgrade in draft or FA), Furgerson, Anderson.   

 

 

 

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Posted
2 hours ago, Aussie Joe said:


Yep …let’s see if they want him back 


Playoffs only. 
 

Roster spot, playing time and salary can go elsewhere for a guy that shows up once in a while. 
 

Give a rookie or another player via FA the gig and see what we get. If not? Pivot back to him down the stretch. I’m sure he’d understand and wouldn’t have a problem resting all year and putting in the work for the post-season games instead lol

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