Day #6 after the loss to KC: Feeling better? Worse? Why? (Thread started at Day #2)

[BILLS 4 EVER]

8 hours ago, TrentEdwardsCheckDownOn4th said:

 I know I plan on skipping for the first time in 30 years, and I'm sure there are some other bills fans that will do the same, 

Ditto. I'm not watching this sh^tshow any more. F'k the Chiefs. And yes, still pissed off about the game.

Edited Wednesday at 10:44 PM by BILLS 4 EVER

[Steptide]

Still pissy. The thing that's annoying me more than anything, is seeing all the kc fans on Twitter that actually believe all the flags that kc gets are legit. I will 100% admit that kc outplayed the bills, but I cannot stand the blind homerism. And I include some bills fans in that. I will admit when a call is a bad call. Example - the pi called on tre white against Coleman against Baltimore. Terrible call. The thing I find so odd too is, I find it so much easier to admit a bad call if the bills win. See my example above regarding the pi on tre white. For whatever reason though, even though kc won and is going to the superbowl yet again, kc fans (at least what I've seen) are absolutely dead set on saying they don't get biased flags. It's such bs. Just freaking admit that you've had garbage flags that have helped your team. 

Edited Wednesday at 10:49 PM by Steptide

[HOUSE]

This is where I am, seriously 

 

 

[Big Blitz]

Our GM has not done anything close to this outside of Allen with his 8 first rounders.  

 

A Super Bowl in 2006 followed these picks.  

[TrentEdwardsCheckDownOn4th]

16 hours ago, Steptide said:

Still pissy. The thing that's annoying me more than anything, is seeing all the kc fans on Twitter that actually believe all the flags that kc gets are legit. I will 100% admit that kc outplayed the bills, but I cannot stand the blind homerism. And I include some bills fans in that. I will admit when a call is a bad call. Example - the pi called on tre white against Coleman against Baltimore. Terrible call. The thing I find so odd too is, I find it so much easier to admit a bad call if the bills win. See my example above regarding the pi on tre white. For whatever reason though, even though kc won and is going to the superbowl yet again, kc fans (at least what I've seen) are absolutely dead set on saying they don't get biased flags. It's such bs. Just freaking admit that you've had garbage flags that have helped your team. 

I haven't read anything chiefs related , social media , player reactions , NICK WRIGHT, etc.. you should probably do the same better for your health 

[HOUSE]

I have to be honest, love McDermott but this is really getting old.

The only answer is to move on

 

Today I am questioning the entire organization because they continue to stumble and nothing ever changes.

Next year will be some other mistake that kills this team.

[ShakAttack]

1 hour ago, HOUSE said:

I have to be honest, love McDermott but this is really getting old.

The only answer is to move on

 

Today I am questioning the entire organization because they continue to stumble and nothing ever changes.

Next year will be some other mistake that kills this team.

 

Listening to Beane right now, it sounds like he wants to pretty much run it back with this same defense.  I sure hope he isn't serious.  Out of the 7 teams that made the playoffs in the AFC, our defense was easily the worst.  

 

My issue is there are some good options out there in free agency, but we are so tied down to the players currently on our roster.

 

For instance, I'd love to bring in someone like Justin Reid at safety, but we are already committed to Cole Bishop  (more on Rapp in a moment).

 

I'd love to bring in a new LB, but we are already committed to Terrell Bernard (and I'm fine with that) and Matt Milano.

 

There's more examples, but the problem with 3 of the 4 players I brought up is that they are INJURY PRONE!!!!!!!!!!  There are other issues with these players as well, but above all, availability is #1.

 

Beane is saying "we need to do better to protect Milano (from injury)" jeez.. really?  What does that even mean?  We weren't doing that before?  He's always been injury prone and now he is getting older.    

 

Difficult decisions have to be made if we want to move forward.   I feel like we made those difficult decisions last season, but only because we had no other choice.

[nuklz2594]

iiiiiiiii have become comfortably numb.......

[BillsMontreal]

On 1/28/2025 at 12:16 PM, HappyDays said:

 

On one hand it feels like we are so close to beating them. But the necessary changes are fundamental, not superficial. And I just don't see those fundamental changes coming any time soon. Even if we add a Maxx Crosby I'm not convinced that solves the underlying problems.

Agree.

When you lose each year against the same team, it's not close at all, even if each games are close.

In a 4of7 like some others sports, it's a sweep.

[BILLS 4 EVER]

Day 4. More pissed. Now that all the videos are out and the idiots are promoting the "Big Game," the blatant cheating feels even more sickening. I think I'll be off social media more these next few weeks and skip the "Super Bowel" for the first time in my life.

[PepeSilvia]

I’m actually tired of all the excuses. Blame the refs, blame Kincaid torn pcl, blame Josh’s’ broken hand, blame benford going out with concussion…

 

how about we stop making excuses and just realize they weren’t good enough. The coaching staff wasn’t good enough. The players weren’t good enough. 
 

yes there were bad calls, play better and don’t leave it in the hands of the refs judgement calls. 
 

how about James cook only getting 4 carrries in the first half? How the defense giving up 32 points to a team that hadn’t scored 30 all year? 
 

theres plenty of blame to go around. With all that being said, they still got the ball back and 3 timeouts with a chance to go and win the game and they didn’t get it done.

 

now bean is talking to the league about the referees? This is what losers do. Just like he had an overtime rule change because the top 5 defense couldn’t get a stop when it mattered. 
 

how many more times do you have to watch this defense and head coach fail in big games? There is more than enough proof over the years that in big moments of big games MCD and the defense come up short.

 

accept you weren’t good enough from a coaching and personnel standpoint

 

8 years into this regime and there still isn’t a pass rush even after all the draft picks and free agent signings. The run defense is still terrible. There isn’t enough top tier talent on either side of the ball to surround your once in a generation quarterback. 

Edited yesterday at 11:54 AM by PepeSilvia

[colin]

while obviously i want to move on from the entire front office, i now think the only option going forward (as i presume there will not be FO changes) is:

 

1.  Get a top flight outside WR.  we have hollins down the field and zero else.  he's a sub replacement guy prior to being here, but he got our only two solid deep pass plays.  i say keep him cuz he's cheap and a dawg, and get higgins or someone in trade or FA who can ball out down the fild.

 

2.  Look to get an upgrade on the interior OL.  if we can draft a guy, who at worse would be depth, who might be able to start over one of our middle three, it could be huge.  guard play was awful on some passing downs vs kc.  if we get a C we can slide mcgovern back to guard, less ideal than just upgrading G, but i just want a front 5 who are great.  right now we are really good, pretty monster in run blocking, but too many breakdowns in pass pro

 

3.  CB.  our cb play was just so awful vs kc, we need a real cb.  i dunno if you nee a top 5 guy or just a good guy or whatever, but we need another one.

 

4.  fill in every other hole with the draft and free agents who are dirt cheap.  we don't need these dq jones and curtis samuel and that guy addison from years back players.  replacement level guys who get paid more than replacement to make mcd feel good about having people he likes in back up positions just isn't worth the cap it drains from the rest of the pool.  knox and milano are also contracts that hurt us, big contracts in non premium positions.  knox is decent but paid like a great one (we even moved up to draft 86 after signing him.  milano is a stud (or was) but he hasn't been a game changer in years (even then, an off ball lb can only do so much).  for now we need youth and talent and just get guys in places.

 

and sadly, that's it.  with mcd we can be certain our d will not be good in the playoffs, so we need to add talent to ensure they don't totally blow, and go hard on the O so allen has weapons and protection to get 39 instead of 29 vs kc.

[Success]

I posted after the game - almost incessantly - that I was done, done, done. Done being dedicated so much to this team & sport.

 

It was a self-pity party, for sure.  I apologize to all who encountered me in a thread that night.  I was like a lunatic.

 

But it was good for me. I felt embarrassed that a game should mean so much to me as an older dude.  It's kind of pathetic.  I'm not as extreme about being "done," but there is a change going on for sure.  I think I'm making - finally - the transition to being a much more casual fan.  Not caring about draft weekend, catching games when I can in the regular, and not consuming so much sports commentary & news.

 

I'll enjoy it if the Bills have success, but won't care if they come up short again.  I'll never be a fan at the level that I was.  I've watched since wide right, and it's really too much.  Like, why am I putting so much emotion into it?  It seems crazy.  Life is too short, as they say.

 

[LABILLBACKER]

8 hours ago, ShakAttack said:

 

Listening to Beane right now, it sounds like he wants to pretty much run it back with this same defense.  I sure hope he isn't serious.  Out of the 7 teams that made the playoffs in the AFC, our defense was easily the worst.  

 

My issue is there are some good options out there in free agency, but we are so tied down to the players currently on our roster.

 

For instance, I'd love to bring in someone like Justin Reid at safety, but we are already committed to Cole Bishop  (more on Rapp in a moment).

 

I'd love to bring in a new LB, but we are already committed to Terrell Bernard (and I'm fine with that) and Matt Milano.

 

There's more examples, but the problem with 3 of the 4 players I brought up is that they are INJURY PRONE!!!!!!!!!!  There are other issues with these players as well, but above all, availability is #1.

 

Beane is saying "we need to do better to protect Milano (from injury)" jeez.. really?  What does that even mean?  We weren't doing that before?  He's always been injury prone and now he is getting older.    

 

Difficult decisions have to be made if we want to move forward.   I feel like we made those difficult decisions last season, but only because we had no other choice.

If we don't aggressively attack the front 4 problem and upgrade some DB's, we're sending a huge message to Bills fans to just "follow us no matter what".  In other words continue being lemmings.

[schoolhouserock]

I am still salty as hell.

 

McBeane are like Edison. They are finding a thousand ways NOT to invent a Super Bowl win.

Edited yesterday at 01:18 AM by schoolhouserock

[90sBills]

27 minutes ago, Success said:

I posted after the game - almost incessantly - that I was done, done, done. Done being dedicated so much to this team & sport.

 

It was a self-pity party, for sure.  I apologize to all who encountered me in a thread that night.  I was like a lunatic.

 

But it was good for me. I felt embarrassed that a game should mean so much to me as an older dude.  It's kind of pathetic.  I'm not as extreme about being "done," but there is a change going on for sure.  I think I'm making - finally - the transition to being a much more casual fan.  Not caring about draft weekend, catching games when I can in the regular, and not consuming so much sports commentary & news.

 

I'll enjoy it if the Bills have success, but won't care if they come up short again.  I'll never be a fan at the level that I was.  I've watched since wide right, and it's really too much.  Like, why am I putting so much emotion into it?  It seems crazy.  Life is too short, as they say.

 

Hey good to see you posting again since the game. We’ve all been there. I’m an NFL fanatic so I do consume quite a bit from free agency all through to the superbowl. What has worked for me as I’ve gotten older is take the emotion out of it. Oh and betting on games help. Good luck!

[finn]

I'm getting some clarity by now, thinking a) the refs were biased (and I didn't fully believe that before); b) the Bills were outcoached on both sides of the ball pretty badly; and c) the Bills overachieved with a roster that is mediocre across the board except for Allen, Cook, and the offensive tackles.

 

Putting b) and c) together, the coaches deserve accolades for getting this far with this roster, but they were spanked by better coaches in the final game. To be fair, they had the bye week, a huge, deeply unfair advantage. 

 

Bottom line: bitter about the cheating, grateful for all those fun weeks, not yet ready to think about next year. 

[GoBills808]

7 hours ago, BillsMontreal said:

Agree.

When you lose each year against the same team, it's not close at all, even if each games are close.

In a 4of7 like some others sports, it's a sweep.

Correct

 

And if the team that just got swept then turned around and said 'hey we think we're close' you'd just roll your eyes

[Jimmy Harris 69]

I’m worn to raveling over this loss. I’m going to skip the Super Bowl, just pray to the great spirit that Philly wins. Every new rabbit hole brings up more bad feelings: 13 seconds; Kincaid——Mister not so bright side; McDermott is Schottenheimer but Pegula would hire Jauron in his place; Hamlin will get a huge raise and continue his meteoric rise to the bottom; that d##k hole coach in kc may not retire at the end of the year; now there are even more game highlights of kc players running off the field victorious….Taylor Swift delighted, the referees winking at Travis Kelce and backslapping each other. SIGH.

Edited 2 hours ago by Jimmy Harris 69

[Doc Brown]

The common thing I've learned from being emotionally invested in a team in the NFL that will never change is....

 

Losing Sucks.