good comments from Bills players in this new Athletic piece

[boyst]

2 minutes ago, zow2 said:

I’m accepting of it. This wasn’t 13 seconds-like.  This wasn’t a fluky win for KC so it’s easier to wash it off and move on.  It was obvious from the first 4 mins of the game KC was more composed, better coached, better prepared.  Credit the Chiefs, and credit the Bills for hanging in there and even making Kansas City and their fans sweat it out.

that's why i am not at a major loss like any other playoff game. the bengals loss was worse because the year was so difficult and the hope of hope.

[Coach Tuesday]

The Chiefs exploited every single one of our tendencies - including, most critically, our coaches’ tendencies to over-plan around the other teams’ tendencies.  It really was checkers vs. chess on the coaching side.

[dave mcbride]

8 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said:

 

 

 

Having veteran coaches who've seen it all and are still on top of their game is an advantage over having young coordinators and a HC who is in his formative years by comparison.   And the Chiefs had two weeks to prepare for a Buffalo or Baltimore matchup so were able to be a step ahead of the film.  By comparison it looked like they just marched out a vanilla plan versus the Texans who they knew were going to be an easy out.  

 

Bills didn't have nearly as much time to think out of the box after having to play in the WC and divisional rounds and still were an easy catch and some basic execution thereafter away from winning in Arrowhead.  An unforced error.......a dropped arm punt NOT the blitz that caused it......ended their season.  Remember, Spags out schemed Brady on that 4th down TD run that won the game in Buffalo.......but a player made a play that time.  

 

Gotta' get that #1 seed next year and then you can be the one's who are one step ahead.

It really is all about the bye. The Pats had a bye in the divisional round in 2010 and inexplicably lost to the Jets despite featuring their best roster over the entire BB era (IMHO), but had a bye every year after that and reached the championship game 8 years in a row with 5 SB appearances. Very similar trajectory. 

 

 

[Cray51]

10 minutes ago, PBF81 said:

 

Which begs the question, why not hire better coordinators. 

 

That discussion opens up a sore and controversial topic here though.  

 

 

Absolutely - and it's a question for another thread/day.  I will say this - i understand wanting to keep a guy who you think can be a difference maker at the coordinator position for years as they come into their own.  With that said, why would you do that when you haven't won the Super Bowl?  It's why I'm fine losing Rousseau to FA if we go out and get Garrett or Crosby.  Keeping good here while potentially losing out on great is not my favorite approach.

[Low Positive]

20 minutes ago, GoBills808 said:

it was patently obvious to me how unprepared we were

 

players were not put in positions to succeed

They were overprepared. They watched too much film, and the players and coaches were not reacting to what they were seeing in the moment. I hope this is a lesson to two young playcallers that you have to break your own tendencies in high-leverage playoff games. Spags put things on film ALL YEAR, just so he could break a tendency in that single moment. You gotta love football for things like that. 

[NewEra]

12 minutes ago, PBF81 said:

 

Which begs the question, why not hire better coordinators. 

 

That discussion opens up a sore and controversial topic here though.  

 

 

Which available OC’s are “better” than Brady and why are the “better”?

 

[Shaw66]

The thing that is really revealing to me in this excerpt is that the players are essentially saying that they got outcoached.  Why?  Because they keep saying "we didn't see that on film," and they went against their tendencies.  

 

Well, that's what scouting and coaching is all about. If you're self-scouting your own team, you know what your tendencies are and you design plays to go against your tendencies.  You save those plays for when you really need them.  And you prepare your players BOTH for the other team's tendencies and for what they might do to beat you by going against tendencies. 

 

What these players are saying is that the Chiefs were better prepared than the Bills were, and I believe that is true.  

[dave mcbride]

Just now, Low Positive said:

They were overprepared. They watched too much film, and the players and coaches were not reacting to what they were seeing in the moment. I hope this is a lesson to two young playcallers that you have to break your own tendencies in high-leverage playoff games. Spags put things on film ALL YEAR, just so he could break a tendency in that single moment. You gotta love football for things like that. 

Well said.

[JP51]

20 minutes ago, Cray51 said:

It showed that Brady and Babich are "new" coordinators.  They both approached the 60 minutes like they were reacting to the other team.  Not a good look.  You bank on them being able to learn, however it is frustrating that we need our coordinators to learn on the job.

I think this was a frustration of mine all year... neither had an adequate initial game plan and played into what other teams prepared for. I was happy to see them make adjustments at half time... as our 2nd half generally improved... but the lack of 4 quarters and anticipation in our game plans especially with Babich was very concerning. 

[Coach Tuesday]

4 minutes ago, dave mcbride said:

It really is all about the bye. The Pats had a bye in the divisional round in 2010 and inexplicably lost to the Jets despite featuring their best roster over the entire BB era (IMHO), but had a bye every year after that and reached the championship game 8 years in a row with 5 SB appearances. Very similar trajectory. 

 

 

The Bills’ best chance at the #1 seed is probably a hope that the AFC West continues to improve.  There are now four competent coaches in that division.  Kelce very well may retire this offseason which also helps.  But the Chiefs won’t stay idle and their pro personnel dept has been running circles around Beane’s for years now anyhow.

[DaVinci]

3 minutes ago, Shaw66 said:

What these players are saying is that the Chiefs were better prepared than the Bills were, and I believe that is true.  

5 years to get it rite. The game of the ages and you complain "We never saw that on film" Fish rots from the head down.

[Brianmoorman4jesus]

We scored 29 points on the road against a good defense in arrowhead. A place where refs were literally taking first downs away…we lost because the defense can’t stop anyone. That’s it. Zero grey area. As is the case every year, the offense did more then enough 

[Charles Romes]

Why can’t we ever show a trend over the course of a whole year and whole game. And then break that trend at the critical time.  You do not have to be a genius to do that. It’s common sense.  
 

Also why do we never have a counter to a counter like a counter to the chiefs sneak stuffing plan. It’s only the chiefs who are smart enough to have counters to counters.  I am so sick of making them look like geniuses for exercising common sense.  

[SoCal Deek]

Players make plays. Did the blitz impact that final play? Yes, it did, but NOT the way so many on here believe. The Chiefs blitzed off our right side, meaning they dropped into coverage on the left side. So is Shakir open in the left flat? Yes….but he’d get swarmed. Did Josh get hurried? Yes…but he’d actually gets the pass off despite the blitz, and throws up a receiver friendly throw to Kincaid who’s wide open BECAUSE of the blitz, not in SPITE of it. Kincaid proceeds to drop it. 

[Low Positive]

Since this seems to be the "talk about the game" thread for the day, I'll put this here. It frustrates me that fans think in absolutes (fire everyone and trade Josh) in a game that was won on a few plays. Lets take that 3rd down screen pass before the final Bills play. Spags brought the house. This time Josh recognizes this and audibles to a screen. The screen went for 5 yards, but if Brown could have blocked Karlaftis or if Cooper breaks that shoestring tackle, it would have probably been a TD. There was no one left between Amari and the EZ. One play. These are not blowouts. Yet again, the Bills were a play or two from the SB. Maybe that's what is so frustrating. 

[CircleTheWagons99]

39 minutes ago, DabillsDaBillsDaBills said:

Von Miller can get *****.

 

Mahomes magic?

 

Our DEF could not have made the game easier for him.

 

Miller said he’ll keep coming to One Bills Drive as long as his key card works. He wants to return to the Bills and thinks that feeling is mutual.

 

The only question for the Bills is if we're going to make him a post June 1st designation when we release him this offseason. Good luck finding another team, you're going to need it

needs to give some of that money back.....

[Low Positive]

4 minutes ago, Coach Tuesday said:

The Bills’ best chance at the #1 seed is probably a hope that the AFC West continues to improve.  There are now four competent coaches in that division.  Kelce very well may retire this offseason which also helps.  But the Chiefs won’t stay idle and their pro personnel dept has been running circles around Beane’s for years now anyhow.

Two words for you: Skyy Moore. Another two: Cylde Edwards-Hilaire. They miss too. Mahomes and Reed just mask those busts.

[Billz4ever]

41 minutes ago, DabillsDaBillsDaBills said:

Von Miller can get *****.

 

Mahomes magic?

 

Our DEF could not have made the game easier for him.

 

Miller said he’ll keep coming to One Bills Drive as long as his key card works. He wants to return to the Bills and thinks that feeling is mutual.

 

The only question for the Bills is if we're going to make him a post June 1st designation when we release him this offseason. Good luck finding another team, you're going to need it

 

No point keeping Von on the roster at this point.  He's only a passing down edge rusher as it is and hasn't been great at that anyway.  Make a clean break, move on from that mistake and as this team loves to say, "learn from it" and stop giving long term deals to guys on the wrong side of 30.

Edited Tuesday at 04:34 PM by Billz4ever

[Low Positive]

4 minutes ago, Brianmoorman4jesus said:

We scored 29 points on the road against a good defense in arrowhead. A place where refs were literally taking first downs away…we lost because the defense can’t stop anyone. That’s it. Zero grey area. As is the case every year, the offense did more then enough 

Defense got two stops to start the second half. All week I heard that we needed a few stops and a turnover. The Bills D got all of those things and still lost. 

[GoBills808]

10 minutes ago, Low Positive said:

They were overprepared. They watched too much film, and the players and coaches were not reacting to what they were seeing in the moment. I hope this is a lesson to two young playcallers that you have to break your own tendencies in high-leverage playoff games. Spags put things on film ALL YEAR, just so he could break a tendency in that single moment. You gotta love football for things like that. 

Meh I guess over preparedness and under manifest similarly so not sure the distinction is meaningful

 

Regardless I'm chuckling in the light of day about how inadequate our preparation was. As if the Chiefs weren't holding stuff back against us because they didn't want to show it to the Eagles before the SB...there are levels