What happened to DeWayne Carter and Solomon?

[Bangarang]

36 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

 

Did he? Which games?

 

I remember him having a few splash plays but not much else. Couldn't even tell you which games they were in though. 

[oldmanfan]

Going forward these are two guys that are going to have to make significant contributions.  We need younger guys, former draft picks to assume significant roles on this team.

[schoolhouserock]

30 minutes ago, HOUSE said:

You guys that are bashing Coleman will be real sorry later. This is Josh Allen's draft pick. He needs an off season in the gym. Also heal up from some nagging injuries. 

If you bet against this guy, you will lose...

You hear him. Anyone want to bet the HOUSE???

Edited Tuesday at 02:02 PM by schoolhouserock

[klos63]

1 hour ago, 4th&long said:

What about Coleman? He was useless the last 6-8 weeks or so. He had 3 catches maybe in the playoffs. Good thing we got him and not worthy. 

It's not like we threw much to any WR. We currently a run first,  run often offense.

[Brandon]

6 minutes ago, klos63 said:

It's not like we threw much to any WR. We currently a run first,  run often offense.

 

Some of that was out of necessity.  They just don't have the talent at WR for the passing game to be the focal point.  Brady did an excellent job most of the season masking their weakness at the position.   

[Coach Tuesday]

13 minutes ago, Bangarang said:

 

I remember him having a few splash plays but not much else. Couldn't even tell you which games they were in though. 

He did have a few splash plays which may have resulted from freelancing because he shot through gaps so fast.  But he mostly has looked pretty bad.  He was the one head-scratcher pick for me last draft, he’s old and maybe at his ceiling - I don’t have high hopes for him but he does have a high football character so who knows.

[DCofNC]

44 minutes ago, HOUSE said:

You guys that are bashing Coleman will be real sorry later. This is Josh Allen's draft pick. He needs an off season in the gym. Also heal up from some nagging injuries. 

If you bet against this guy, you will lose...

Oh we should all fear the Josh Allen picks, Kincaid was straight dominant too.  Maybe the GM should do his own damn job and draft the best talent, not appease the QB.  This is how you end up in the mess the Packers/Jets did.

[Jerome007]

Kromer is rightfully praised for the OLine play and getting the most out of his players. But the DLine coach? What does he do exactly?

[Pete]

40 minutes ago, schoolhouserock said:

You hear him. Anyone want to bet the HOUSE???

Yes please

[78thealltimegreat]

54 minutes ago, FireChans said:

Ken Dorsey was Josh Allen’s OC pick

At the time Dorsey was looked at by a couple different teams for OC. Josh wanting to keep his QB coach for continuity isn’t a bad thing. Case and point Bob Slowik in Houston 

[JohnNord]

2 hours ago, BillMafia716ix said:

A guy they drafted in the 3rd round should not be inactive. It’s Very concerning 

It just seems like Carter is going to be another  rotational DL who comes in and doesn’t do very much.  

 

Solomon has the potential to be a good situational edge rusher but he is horrible against the run

[Mat68]

1 hour ago, Pete said:

I didn't like Coleman when we drafted him, because we needed a WR who could line up outside, and separate.  Coleman could not do that in college, and he most definitely cannot do that in the NFL.  I like the trade back, I strongly dislike the selection.  There were many WR I preferred over Coleman.  Hes a one trick pony, that does not do that trick well.  Coleman is the 6th wideout IMO next season

I think he can take over and enhance the role Hollins had.  Coleman in Bradys scheme could be Marquis Colston or Michael Thomas as a power slot.  As a rookie he started slow got going then got hurt. The middle he showed flashes of being an impact player.  He is an X in pro sets. In spread looks I think he works best as a slot.  I would draft another pass catcher early or sign one if Cooper doesn't return.  

[GunnerBill]

59 minutes ago, Bangarang said:

 

I remember him having a few splash plays but not much else. Couldn't even tell you which games they were in though. 

 

I think he made a TFL in  game down by the goalline. One of those middle run games.... Titans maybe? 

[Pete]

15 minutes ago, Mat68 said:

I think he can take over and enhance the role Hollins had.  Coleman in Bradys scheme could be Marquis Colston or Michael Thomas as a power slot.  As a rookie he started slow got going then got hurt. The middle he showed flashes of being an impact player.  He is an X in pro sets. In spread looks I think he works best as a slot.  I would draft another pass catcher early or sign one if Cooper doesn't return.  

I hope you are right.  Mack was one of the most important Bills imo.  He does all the little things great.  I often see Mack blocking down field to spring his fellow WR.  Hes great at setting a pick, he catches everything.  He can release.  He shows up for Big Games.  

Coleman can block, and he can jump.  That’s all I see.  Coleman would rather play paddycakes with DB, then high point ball.  He wastes so much motion and looks terribly awkward trying to release from a jam.

 

imo it is crucial we re-sign Hollins.

 

sure Coleman would be better in the slot.  But our best WR plays in slot.  Coleman was drafted to play outside, and he is failing bad.  Hopefully he works hard offseason and comes back a better WR
 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited Tuesday at 03:07 PM by Pete

[Niagara Dude]

1 hour ago, GunnerBill said:

 

Did he? Which games?

He started in the Texans game and played well

[Mat68]

6 minutes ago, Pete said:

I hope you are right.  Mack was one of the most important Bills imo.  He does all the little things great.  I often see Mack blocking down field to spring his fellow WR.  Hes great at setting a pick, he catches everything.  He can release.  He shows up for Big Games.  

Coleman can block, and he can jump.  That’s all I see.  Coleman would rather play paddycakes with DB, then high point ball.  He wastes so much motion and looks terribly awkward trying to release from a jam.

 

imo it is crucial we re-sign Hollins.

 

sure Coleman would be better in the slot.  But our best WR plays in slot.  Coleman was drafted to play outside, and he is failing bad.  Hopefully he works hard offseason and comes back a better WR
 

 

 

 

 

 

Slot is the position Hollins made every one of his plays from this past season.  Coleman plays both depending on formation.  I think he can easily lead the team in many categories in year 2.  Hollins is a very good teammate but he isn't a must sign.  For the right money yes.  As a role player absolutely. 

[Chandler#81]

Same old, Same old. McDermott doesn’t play rookies much

[Pete]

18 minutes ago, Mat68 said:

Slot is the position Hollins made every one of his plays from this past season.  Coleman plays both depending on formation.  I think he can easily lead the team in many categories in year 2.  Hollins is a very good teammate but he isn't a must sign.  For the right money yes.  As a role player absolutely. 

Hollins played 30% of his snaps in the slot.  He led the Bills WR in TDs in regular season and the playoffs.  Coleman was 4 for 10 in red zone targets, but leads NFL in paddycakes 

https://www.playerprofiler.com/nfl/mack-hollins/

 

Coleman and Elam are both grabby. Coleman seems to me more worried about drawing a penalty, instead of focusing on finishing route and catching the football.  He is often tangled up when Josh targets him.  Josh targeted him against KC in a huge spot. 4 for 11 in the red zone.

 

 Hopefully this offseason Josh and Coleman dial it in.  Coleman wants to be good, and I think he will train and study intensely.  If Coleman can figure it out, he could be a TD monster 

Edited Tuesday at 03:46 PM by Pete

[Pete]

Picture this, deep in training camp reps, grabfest 2024- Keon Coleman against Elam  lmao

[uticaclub]

31 minutes ago, Chandler#81 said:

Same old, Same old. McDermott doesn’t play rookies much

He plays rookies when they are good, we don't draft well, so we don’t have a lot of rookies that are good