The Chiefs are always one step ahead of the Bills...

[FireChans]

1 hour ago, LABILLBACKER said:

Name me one great defensive player that Beane has drafted?

......crickets....

Taron. But that’s it.

11 hours ago, Billzgobowlin said:

We are really splitting hairs here with these picks.  Judging a rookie WR like Worthy against Coleman is way too early to tell.  Coleman IMO has a much higher ceiling than Worthy because he has number 1 receiver potential, Worthy is little more than a gadget guy.  At this point trading Mahomes for Allen doesn't seem like a difference at all and you could make the case Allen is better.  The burn here is we gave up what the Chiefs needed but not what the Bills needed.  You can claim we could have given up the ability to draft Humphrey as opposed to Boogie and that's probably the biggest mistake but our O line doesn't have the issues.  We have proven we can beat the Chiefs several times in the regular season so I think we are on the same level.  We have to figure out how to win the right game though and that will involve understanding how football games are called from a league standpoint and overcome that aspect.  

I think the biggest difference this year was the D coach and we are in a matter of a few points difference.  Spags as opposed to Babich is definitely an advantage for the Chiefs but I think Babich will keep adjusting and get there.

How is way early to tell on Worthy?

 

He sent us home in the AFCCG with over 100 yards from scrimmage, 1 TD and led their team in catches. Coleman had 1 catch for 12 yards on 4 targets. That happened. It’s not too early to tell what will happen. It’s already happened.

[Georgia Bill]

2 hours ago, buffalostu2 said:

Didn't we lose by three points and due to an awful ball spotting error?   Are we really that far behind when you only lose by three points?  

 

This analysis is also just looking at the Chiefs highlight moves.   What about their bad ones?   What about the Bill's good ones.  

 

The Chiefs roster is littered with guys who treat women like crap and have despicable character.   I don't want us to do it their way.  

All the talk about the roster and the coaches but I agree with you, we are neck and neck with these guys. 

 

Imagine if the Bills had gotten the 1 seed for 5 of the last 6 years like the Chiefs had.  We'd have had 5 seasons where in the playoffs we get a bye week, then play the weakest team at home - and voila, we are in the AFC championship game at home.  No one can tell me we would not have beaten the Chiefs (or anyone else) in at least 2 or 3 of those.  I don't think we need to focus so much on changing in massive ways to beat the Chiefs on their field (which no one has done in the playoffs recently). 

 

You need to focus on what needs to be done to win more games against everyone else in the regular season.  Maybe there is some overlap in perceived needs there, but getting the 1 seed is crazy important in the AFC now.

[Niagara Dude]

2 hours ago, C.Biscuit97 said:

Eh, we had the better team last year and 2020 was really close as well. They just execute and do the little things better. 

They traded a 1st for Diggs, spent a 2nd on Coleman, traded a 3rd I believe for Cooper, spent a 1st for Kincaid. That’s not nothing. You can say they missed but they have tried. 

How about going after one of the top receivers in the draft,  Coleman was not rated high because he was considered slow

[Buffalo03]

They are also just smarter. Greg Rousseau said they ran a lot of plays that weren't on film and it threw them off. That's stuff we need to start doing. Surprise them

[KOKBILLS]

I'm not sure how far back the history goes here on TSW... I'm too busy to check now... But you should see what I wrote about Chris Jones the year we took Shaq at #19 overall... He was by far my favorite player in that Draft... 

[thenorthremembers]

You have a guy leading that organization who has coached football longer than I've been alive and I am going to be 42 in March.   Between he and Spags they have 77 years of coaching experience.   They've seen it all.   They know the right move all the time.   Very hard to overcome that.

[julian]

2 hours ago, C.Biscuit97 said:

Eh, we had the better team last year and 2020 was really close as well. They just execute and do the little things better. 

They traded a 1st for Diggs, spent a 2nd on Coleman, traded a 3rd I believe for Cooper, spent a 1st for Kincaid. That’s not nothing. You can say they missed but they have tried. 

I respectfully disagree, some areas are closer than others.. but it’s a clean sweep imho.

[Da webster guy]

Dissecting drafts is ridiculous.  Everybody misses on picks and hits on others, including KC who lost six games last year.  And quit pretending Worthy and his 3.4 catches per game average is some kind of powerhouse.   We took Coleman and Dewayne Carter from that trade, I'll take my chances and see where they're all at in 5 years.

 

We're evenly matched teams obviously.  4-4 going into the other night, we had the ball with 3:30 left and two timeouts and had already scored our usual 30 pts per game which is far better than KC has done this year.   Our normally reliable TE dropped a ball that hit him in the arms, much like Diggs dropped a game changer off his neck last year.   Last time we played the Chiefs we won by multiple scores and the last time we played in Arrowhead we beat them.   

 

Quit whining about how much better than us the Chiefs are.  We're evenly matched teams.   Flip a coin, sometimes you get four heads in a row and sometimes you get four tails in a row.   Its how sports works.  We beat a better team in Baltimore and lost to an evenly matched team in KC.   We will be favored against them when we play next year just like we were this year in Buffalo.  That's not checkers and chess its a great rivalry, the best in a long time.

 

 

 

 

[BILLS 4 EVER]

I don't feel that way. We built a team just as competitive. Yes, some first round talent did not pan out, but we also struck gold in later rounds. We may be the better team, but we were not the NFL's team this year. They decided to sell the Chiefs 3peat legacy vs the Eagles rematch with a side dish of Taylor Swift.  

Maybe next year the refs will cheat for the Bills if they get enough following and Haley will be the side attraction as Josh gets his turn. After watching the replays and dissecting the game, the Bills needed to beat the Chiefs and the refs/NFL system and they made sure that wasn't going to happen by letting the Chiefs have every advantage possible.  In a tight game with 2 close teams, that is the difference between winning and losing.

[McMuffin]

8 hours ago, SCBills said:

Agree with all of this except Mahomes/Allen.  

 

We have the guy at QB.  

 

It's the fact the Chiefs are one step ahead of us everywhere else that's killing us.  (plus we clearly haven't performed the blood sacrifice to get biased officiating)

 

They had McDuffie and Watson (Stole McDuffie from us and hit on a later pick.  We had Benford (who can't stay healthy), Elam who we settled for after losing McDuffie and is absolutely a bust at this point, and Douglas who we had to trade for last year that completely fell off at 30.

 

They took Worthy, with our pick, while we took Coleman and then lamented all season about our lack of separation at WR as it was gravely evident in the Playoffs.

 

Nevermind Reid/Spags coaching circles around McDermott, Babich and Brady.

They always seem to be going after the same players as us in the draft and free agency.

[jaybeezee]

3 hours ago, Georgia Bill said:

All the talk about the roster and the coaches but I agree with you, we are neck and neck with these guys. 

 

Imagine if the Bills had gotten the 1 seed for 5 of the last 6 years like the Chiefs had.  We'd have had 5 seasons where in the playoffs we get a bye week, then play the weakest team at home - and voila, we are in the AFC championship game at home.  No one can tell me we would not have beaten the Chiefs (or anyone else) in at least 2 or 3 of those.  I don't think we need to focus so much on changing in massive ways to beat the Chiefs on their field (which no one has done in the playoffs recently). 

 

You need to focus on what needs to be done to win more games against everyone else in the regular season.  Maybe there is some overlap in perceived needs there, but getting the 1 seed is crazy important in the AFC now.

Didnt KC go on the road and beat Us and Baltimore last year?? The whole premise of getting the first round bye is trash to me. Im also tired of people saying we need luck!  Why do we need luck, but KC doesnt need it to consistently win or go to Super Bowls?

 

They had significant injuries on offense this year and still won 15 games, technically I will give them 16 games this year and they didnt have Hollywood Brown, Pacheco, Rice, for significant amount of time, as well as a older and slower Kelce and still won. If Andy Reid is the HC and he is offensive minded HC, then why is it that their best attribute for the majority of the season was defense, and we have a supposed great defensive head coach but cant beat them?

 

Its scheme and coaching. I am sure Reid and Spags would have won a Super Bowl or 2 with the teams that we have been fielding for the last 3-4 years for sure! 

[streetkings01]

17 hours ago, BillMafia716ix said:

And despite all that. The Bills had the opportunity to win both games on the last possession. Our MVP QB just hasn’t delivered. Gotta call a spade a spade. It’s always a miss throw here, miscommunication error there or a bad play call. 

Chiefs had the ball with 1:54 and we had 3 timeouts….defense could’ve also forced a 3 & out but we all know that’s too much to ask.

[JakeFrommStateFarm]

Reid is playing chess.

 

McDermott is playing checkers.

 

It has nothing to do with Josh

[tigerthelion]

15 hours ago, Billzgobowlin said:

We are really splitting hairs here with these picks.  Judging a rookie WR like Worthy against Coleman is way too early to tell.  Coleman IMO has a much higher ceiling than Worthy because he has number 1 receiver potential, Worthy is little more than a gadget guy.  At this point trading Mahomes for Allen doesn't seem like a difference at all and you could make the case Allen is better.  The burn here is we gave up what the Chiefs needed but not what the Bills needed.  You can claim we could have given up the ability to draft Humphrey as opposed to Boogie and that's probably the biggest mistake but our O line doesn't have the issues.  We have proven we can beat the Chiefs several times in the regular season so I think we are on the same level.  We have to figure out how to win the right game though and that will involve understanding how football games are called from a league standpoint and overcome that aspect.  

I think the biggest difference this year was the D coach and we are in a matter of a few points difference.  Spags as opposed to Babich is definitely an advantage for the Chiefs but I think Babich will keep adjusting and get there.

In no universe does Keon Coleman have number 1 receiver potential.  No way, no how.  

[Georgia Bill]

1 hour ago, jaybeezee said:

Didnt KC go on the road and beat Us and Baltimore last year?? The whole premise of getting the first round bye is trash to me. Im also tired of people saying we need luck!  Why do we need luck, but KC doesnt need it to consistently win or go to Super Bowls?

 

They had significant injuries on offense this year and still won 15 games, technically I will give them 16 games this year and they didnt have Hollywood Brown, Pacheco, Rice, for significant amount of time, as well as a older and slower Kelce and still won. If Andy Reid is the HC and he is offensive minded HC, then why is it that their best attribute for the majority of the season was defense, and we have a supposed great defensive head coach but cant beat them?

 

Its scheme and coaching. I am sure Reid and Spags would have won a Super Bowl or 2 with the teams that we have been fielding for the last 3-4 years for sure! 

Last year when they played us at home everyone knew our defense was decimated.  I'm just saying if we keep giving them the 1 seed we keep playing them in KC where they are undefeated in the playoffs.  It definitely makes our task harder, maybe so hard that you just have to be a LOT better than them to win there.  I'm not sure we will get a lot better than them but I'm pretty sure if we got the 1 seed a few times, and the easy path to a home AFC championship, our chances of winning would be pretty good, even if our teams were just closer to equal.

Edited yesterday at 12:04 AM by Georgia Bill
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[thewookie1]

Allen has the clutch gene but to be clutch requires confidence. Mahomes has the clutch gene and when he pulls off a magic trick he’s rewarded with wins. Allen, on the other hand, ends up with some success, some mind numbing drops, and an occasional miss. For a QB to be clutch it requires himself and another most of the time to pull it off. Where they differ is as time has passed Allen has lost some faith in pulling off miracles whereas Mahomes is fully confident in the ability to do so. 

[Comebackkid]

21 hours ago, ChronicAndKnuckles said:

Allen is better than Mahomes. He just lacks the trifecta of better coaching/better support cast/refs 

idk about better..i think its a wash..they each have their areas where one might be a bit better than the other.

KC's coaching does a lot of heavy lifting for Mahomes but he's still pretty damn clutch.

 

[billieve420]

Literally feels like you need a whole separate playbook just for the Chiefs come playoff time.

Edited yesterday at 02:21 AM by billieve420

[Comebackkid]

something tells me the bills coaching staff arent great chess players....

[nedboy7]

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