Matt_In_NH Posted Wednesday at 09:21 PM Posted Wednesday at 09:21 PM On 1/28/2025 at 1:51 AM, LABILLBACKER said: They draft better than us They coach better than us They scheme better than us But for the love of God, can we stop trading with them forever. They are so much better across the board yet every game comes down to one or two plays and the Bills/Allen are 4-5 vs Chiefs/Mahomes. The problem is simply playoffs vs regular season. I agree they have the better staff and scheme. Quote
jahnyc Posted Wednesday at 09:35 PM Posted Wednesday at 09:35 PM I like Beane, but we need to do better with he talent around JA. JA compensates for a lot of the inadequacies, but it is getting hard to not be concerned about about some of our drafting in the early rounds. Elam, Basham, Ford are busts and AJ and Kincaid have been somewhat disappointing. I also don't have confidence that Coleman will be a quality starter for the Bills. I get it that it is harder with where we have been drafting because of the team's success, but we need better because that will be one of the ways that we can get over the hump. Quote
Logic Posted Wednesday at 09:46 PM Posted Wednesday at 09:46 PM They get Andy Reid We get Sean McDermott They get Steve Spagnuolo We get guys named Leslie and Bobby They get Patrick Mahomes We get Country Patrick Mahomes with occasional 1st and 4th quarter sugar insanity They get the biggest pop star in the world, Taylor Swift We get the voice of Spiderman's girlfriend in a cartoon, Hailee Steinfeld They get to bang a big, cool drum and do Native war chants We get a wailing train whistle that made my Pappy go deaf in one ear the time we sat in the 300s I tell ya, life ain't fair. 3 Quote
SirAndrew Posted Thursday at 11:52 AM Posted Thursday at 11:52 AM It also helps to be one step ahead when the opposing GM trades draft picks to you. Quote
97bills Posted Thursday at 01:05 PM Posted Thursday at 01:05 PM On 1/27/2025 at 11:13 PM, Brand J said: Mahomes has a little something extra that I can’t qualify or quantify. He’s the most clutch QB I ever remember playing, even more so than Brady. If you needed a drive to end with a TD and your literal life depended on it, I would choose Mahomes to get it done. Our guy is great and has been let down by his teammates, but still I can’t ignore how that side of the ball hasn’t been able to capitalize on their opportunity to take the lead aside from the :13 game. And we all know who the other QB was that drove 45 yards in 9 seconds (yes, the Bills defense made it easy on him). I’m still taking Brady. We forget real quick when something new comes a long. Quote
Don Otreply Posted Thursday at 02:05 PM Posted Thursday at 02:05 PM Post season scheming against top teams is lacking, especially on the D side, year after year we essentially play the same soft zone crap that our opponent takes advantage of, and in the end beat us because of…, We have a very reasonable chance to be back in the AFCCG, next season, but we will have to overwhelm our opponent on offense to win, jmo. GO BILLS!!! Quote
aristocrat Posted Thursday at 02:15 PM Posted Thursday at 02:15 PM We get Kincaid they get Rashee Rice Quote
The Jokeman Posted Thursday at 02:21 PM Posted Thursday at 02:21 PM 5 minutes ago, aristocrat said: We get Kincaid they get Rashee Rice Not if Rice is suspended next season Quote
aristocrat Posted Thursday at 02:22 PM Posted Thursday at 02:22 PM Just now, The Jokeman said: Not if Rice is suspended next season Yea but he was on that team last year when they got the ring. And the league won't let him sit too long lol Quote
The Jokeman Posted Thursday at 02:24 PM Posted Thursday at 02:24 PM 1 minute ago, aristocrat said: Yea but he was on that team last year when they got the ring. And the league won't let him sit too long lol I agree he'll likely get 4 weeks top. On 1/27/2025 at 11:30 PM, Awwufelloff said: Chiefs trade up for QB Patrick Mahomes at No. 10 https://www.nfl.com/news/chiefs-trade-up-for-qb-patrick-mahomes-at-no-10-0ap3000000803405 The Bills desperately needed a QB when we made this trade. Chiefs trade up to select Washington DB Trent McDuffie at No. 21 https://www.nfl.com/news/chiefs-trade-up-to-select-washington-db-trent-mcduffie-at-no-21 Which forces our hand to move up and draft Elam... https://www.buffalobills.com/news/bills-jump-into-round-one-trade-frenzy-to-land-cb-kaiir-elam When Bills GM Brandon Beane saw two of the first four picks in the draft were cornerbacks, he thought the Bills might be looking at another position by the time they were on the clock at 25. Fortunately for Buffalo, only one more cornerback came off the board when Kansas City moved up from pick 29 to pick 21 in a trade with New England to take Washington CB Trent McDuffie. Buffalo made a move of their own shortly thereafter to land Florida CB Kaiir Elam as they traded up from pick 25 to 23 in a deal with Baltimore. Chiefs trade up, pick speedy WR Xavier Worthy in NFL draft https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/40027793/chiefs-trade-pick-speedy-wr-xavier-worthy-nfl-draft We literally have no one but to blame but ourselves. The Chiefs play Chess ,while we play checkers. Top down, they are better at us at everything...Draft, coaching, player development, scouting, game planning, etc... I don't see how we get over this hump if we keep shooting ourselves in the foot. and before Beane or McDermott the Chiefs had already drafted Chris Jones and Travis Kelce, two of their most important cogs of the machine. Plenty of blame can be had but it's not clearly just Beane and McDermott. Quote
aristocrat Posted Thursday at 02:27 PM Posted Thursday at 02:27 PM To go even farther back the Chiefs get Chris Jones and we get Reggie Ragland 5 picks later. Quote
The Jokeman Posted Thursday at 02:32 PM Posted Thursday at 02:32 PM On 1/28/2025 at 3:46 AM, UKBillFan said: The issue isn't getting Josh in 2018. The Bills lucked out with that; can you imagine how much worse it would be if they chose Rosen from that spot? McBeane would probably be gone for a start. The problem was trading with the Chiefs to give them Mahomes. If he'd gone to the NFC things could be very different. Let's blame the Bears instead for not taking Mahomes instead of Trubisky or if you go further back there was talk that the Chiefs were interested in drafting Paxton Lynch but damn Broncos jumped ahead of them https://www.espn.com/blog/nflnation/post/_/id/264086/before-getting-patrick-mahomes-ii-chiefs-had-interest-in-paxton-lynch 5 minutes ago, aristocrat said: To go even farther back the Chiefs get Chris Jones and we get Reggie Ragland 5 picks later. Who we eventually traded to the Chiefs damn man we really can't win a trade with them Quote
without a drought Posted Thursday at 03:22 PM Posted Thursday at 03:22 PM An awful lot of tears here. 1 Quote
Billsatlastin2018 Posted Thursday at 03:31 PM Posted Thursday at 03:31 PM Elam… what a terrible bust v.s. Mcduffie! Worthy… surely a SB bound star v.s.a very questionable Coleman. EVERYBODY whiffed on Mahomes. The thing about him, which Reid knew, but NOBODY else did is that he was a HS Pitcher… with a NO HITTER! So, only someone who did zero due diligence investigation- hello OBD, would not have known he had pinpoint accuracy. AND of course, he was the son of a very good MLB Pitcher! A terrible miss. Beane whiffs on way too many and this year- he can’t! Quote
beebe Posted Thursday at 04:20 PM Posted Thursday at 04:20 PM 48 minutes ago, Billsatlastin2018 said: Elam… what a terrible bust v.s. Mcduffie! Worthy… surely a SB bound star v.s.a very questionable Coleman. EVERYBODY whiffed on Mahomes. The thing about him, which Reid knew, but NOBODY else did is that he was a HS Pitcher… with a NO HITTER! So, only someone who did zero due diligence investigation- hello OBD, would not have known he had pinpoint accuracy. AND of course, he was the son of a very good MLB Pitcher! A terrible miss. Beane whiffs on way too many and this year- he can’t! terry pegula didnt whiff on mahomes. Quote
Jeffbigalls Posted Thursday at 04:42 PM Posted Thursday at 04:42 PM On 1/28/2025 at 2:23 PM, Georgia Bill said: All the talk about the roster and the coaches but I agree with you, we are neck and neck with these guys. Imagine if the Bills had gotten the 1 seed for 5 of the last 6 years like the Chiefs had. We'd have had 5 seasons where in the playoffs we get a bye week, then play the weakest team at home - and voila, we are in the AFC championship game at home. No one can tell me we would not have beaten the Chiefs (or anyone else) in at least 2 or 3 of those. I don't think we need to focus so much on changing in massive ways to beat the Chiefs on their field (which no one has done in the playoffs recently). You need to focus on what needs to be done to win more games against everyone else in the regular season. Maybe there is some overlap in perceived needs there, but getting the 1 seed is crazy important in the AFC now. That's the beauty of the 1 seed, that's what you earn for being the best team in the conference. Quote
Alphadawg7 Posted Thursday at 04:45 PM Posted Thursday at 04:45 PM On 1/27/2025 at 8:30 PM, Awwufelloff said: Chiefs trade up to select Washington DB Trent McDuffie at No. 21 https://www.nfl.com/news/chiefs-trade-up-to-select-washington-db-trent-mcduffie-at-no-21 Which forces our hand to move up and draft Elam... https://www.buffalobills.com/news/bills-jump-into-round-one-trade-frenzy-to-land-cb-kaiir-elam No disrespect, but I came in here just because I knew this would be in here. And its not just you, so many people still are hung up about the Chiefs trading up for McDuffie when they shouldnt be and it really should just stop being a thing. Bills were never drafting McDuffie, we already had Taron who had already become one of the top NCB's in the league. This is when like when someone looks at a russet potato and a red potato and just thinks they are the same because they are potatoes. They are not the same thing just because they in the same category. A CB and NCB are not the same player, I mean its like being upset someone drafted a Center ahead of us when we were looking for a tackle and already had a good center. 1 Quote
Charles Romes Posted Thursday at 04:47 PM Posted Thursday at 04:47 PM Our offensive tackle situation is infinitely better than the chiefs but it wasn’t enough. We had no answer for Reid and mahomes getting rid of the ball mostly to worthy in 1.6 seconds. Even though the whole world knew it was coming. 1 Quote
Brand J Posted Thursday at 05:39 PM Posted Thursday at 05:39 PM 51 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said: No disrespect, but I came in here just because I knew this would be in here. And its not just you, so many people still are hung up about the Chiefs trading up for McDuffie when they shouldnt be and it really should just stop being a thing. Bills were never drafting McDuffie, we already had Taron who had already become one of the top NCB's in the league. This is when like when someone looks at a russet potato and a red potato and just thinks they are the same because they are potatoes. They are not the same thing just because they in the same category. A CB and NCB are not the same player, I mean its like being upset someone drafted a Center ahead of us when we were looking for a tackle and already had a good center. Not to mention a number of Pro Bowl CBs were selected after Elam. The Chiefs traded up and selected McDuffie… so what? It wasn’t like he was the last good corner left. The Bills just traded up for the wrong player. 2 Quote
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