Some thoughts on why we can't get over the hump

[Mikie2times]

This is a bit of my own therapy.....

 

Regardless of how you break down the game, for two straight years, we’ve had the ball down by three with our number-one-rated offense, our Superman quarterback, and a chance to tie or win the game. In both years, we failed to do so. It’s difficult to place a lot of blame on a guy who’s literally one of the only reasons we even made it to this point. But the question that we have been asking, and that we all want to know, is: why can’t we get past a certain point in the playoffs? To me, the type of quarterback Josh Allen is is at least part of that story—certainly not all of it—and clearly we wouldn’t even be here in the first place without him. Josh is the most talented quarterback in the NFL. He is the most valuable quarterback in the NFL, but he’s more of a sandlot-style player. His greatest strengths aren’t reading defenses, making pre-snap reads, delivering the hot ball quickly, or running a systematic offense. He’s not like Brady, Montana, or Burrow. And when you’re in moments where you have one drive and it needs to be executed perfectly, his style of quarterback play, in my view, is not optimal. In both years he very well could have overcome it as both of these drives we had a wide receiver or tight end drop a critical ball that could’ve changed the outcome of the game. So we this isn’t on Josh so don’t twist my position that way. Not the optimal style of play for those moments from my view. That is all, we lost as a team.

 

Speaking on which……

 

We’ve missed on several first-round draft choices for multiple years—Elam, Kincaid—and while I wouldn’t say Coleman's is a straight-up miss, when the opportunity was there to potentially draft Worthy or trade up for Thomas, we chose to go with the most risky option: a player that many people were staying away from because of separation issues. We SHOULD be asking questions about our draft strategy. We’ve done a good job in the mid-to-late rounds finding starting-level talent, but we’ve failed to find elite players, elite difference-makers. Further the roster construction at times has been a bit of a head scratcher. We made a great selection in Shakir. He’s shown to be a great YAC guy and a valuable slot receiver. Then we draft Kincaid, who is not a full-time, run-blocking, pass-catching tight end—he’s a receiving tight end. And guess what? You’re not going to be splitting him out wide very often. He’s almost always going to occupy one of your slot roles. Then what do we do in the offseason? We sign Curtis Samuel, who’s another slot-type guy. If that wasn’t enough, if you review Coleman’s tape and some of his advanced stats from MSU and Florida State, you'd see he performed best out of the big slot role, which negated some of his issues, like trouble getting off the ball and separation issues. There was no cohesion in these decisions. There were no complementary wide receivers. It almost felt like when Dorsey called plays, he was calling each one individually, as if the play before had no impact on the next. It felt like we just decided to take players we thought were good and figured we’d make it work later.

 

On the defensive side, I’ve been one of the most vocal critics of McDermott, but I’m tired of it. He’s our coach, and it seems likely he’s not going anywhere for a very long time, right or wrong. I’m tired of 80% of my posts crapping on him. We made some stops in yesterday’s game, and we adjusted pretty effectively in the second half. I trust him as a coach who can stabilize a team, even though I don’t like his system. Crap on him or not, at the end of the day, Kansas City has had incredible success against his system—more so than any other team they’ve faced in the playoffs. Those are facts. Kansas City performs exceptionally well against our defense, especially in the playoffs.

 

We’ve been at this for eight years, and we just don’t have the horses on defense. We lost both of our starting safeties and replaced them with virtually nobody. We have no depth at corner. We had Milano, who we knew wasn’t going to be ready for most of the season, and Bernard, who was a good mid-round pick. We don’t have any players who are top 8 at their positions, outside of Taron Johnson. Maybe Benford, but we just don’t have the horses. So regardless of whether you want to call McDermott’s scheme trash, and it certainly looks that way against Kansas City, he won’t be able to execute it with this talent level.

 

Then there’s the play-calling on offense. We’ve become so dependent on the tush push that we didn’t develop any other short-yardage plays. The only other short-yardage play we had was basically a speed option with Josh and Cook, which worked for a touchdown, one of the most amazing runs I’ve seen from a Bills player in years. But that’s about it. Look at how Kansas City schemed their bootlegs and short-yardage plays against us. When you’re dealing with a heavily compacted defense, if the end is not disciplined (and ours wasn’t), it’s game over. We had no short-yardage plays outside of the one we saw. When you’re going to scheme plays offensively to essentially put yourself in short-yardage situations, you should have a full arsenal of 1- to 2-yard plays at your disposal. But we just said, "Well, screw it, because we’re good at this." Some could argue that Philadelphia is similar, but I’ve never seen Jalen Hurts get stuffed on his own 1-yard line, fumble the ball, and nearly cost his team the game. The second Josh got stuffed on the first sneak for the 2-point conversion, that should’ve been a wake-up call. The push from Kansas City, in addition to Josh’s tentativeness, showed it was a mistake to keep running that play. I don’t care if he got the first down or not—time has told us that you cannot leave it in the hands of the refs.

 

We have a long season ahead and a lot of thinking to do. It sucks, and I don’t know what the answer is. We have some good players, but part of the issue when you re-sign a player whose good but not great is that they occupy that role for a significant time, and you don’t get the chance to get another great player in that spot because you think you’re good enough. It really feels like this team needs a reset, and I don’t know if that’s McDermott or not. As I said, I’m not going to continue talking about him after this post. It’s too much negativity. But this team is starting to feel like it needs the plug pulled. Not because it hasn't been very successful or McD sucks or bla bla, but more because it needs a violent shake-up to go further than it has. If that costs us a year to rebuild, I don’t care. This regime and these players have failed to get it done. Eventually, we need to figure out how to stop that from happening. You can’t just keep saying, "Well, Kansas City is the best, and we lost to the best, so that’s how it is." No. We were inches away from beating the best multiple times. A little better scheme, a little better execution, and a little better roster would’ve made the difference. It was that close, but we failed again. Perhaps we just keep running it back, I just don't know how that is the answer. But when I say blow it up it's not out of hate for these guys. I just don't know what the path forward can be.

 

Love you all and I wish we didn’t have to go thru this.

[Big Turk]

A little better spot fdom the refs who always seemingly give every possible advantage to KC in games would be helpful.

 

Don't think I have ever seen announcers wondering how the ball is marked short of a first down *again* as Nantz and Romo were last night.

 

It happened like 7 or 8 times throughout the game...appeared to be an obvious first down, then the official spots the ball and somehow it's a foot or two short.

 

Nantz was calling it into question and then must have been told by the network to relax because he stopped doing it.

 

Small things that give the Chiefs small advantages done over and over again eventually lead to just enough for them to win in these games.

 

Last year, that was on us and the D being beat to hell. This year...still on us but c'mon...never seen the ball marked short so many times in a single game on what appeared to be obvious first downs.

 

Would it have made a difference? Who knows...all I know is that it definitely didn't help.

Edited yesterday at 02:24 AM by Big Turk

[reddogblitz]

3 hours ago, Mikie2times said:

I’ve never seen Jalen Hurts get stuffed on his own 1-yard line, fumble the ball, and nearly cost his team the game.

 

I was at that Vikings game and it DID cost us the game.

[Mikie2times]

5 minutes ago, reddogblitz said:

 

I was at that Vikings game and it DID cost us the game.

We forced OT, so that's why I phrased it that way. But my greater point was, just because it was a dominant play this year doesn't mean we haven't had some issues with it in the past. Titans game several years back, Vikings game. For awhile we wouldn't even call it. Then we really went to it this year but right when KC stuffed the 2 point conversion you could tell, this wasn't the game. Then Josh nearly fumbles going air born and extending the ball and it was like ok, you're getting really lucky. This needs to stop. But we just kept going to it. They didn't need to get as cute as the play below but if they called that Cook is walking into the end zone and we are in the Super Bowl. 

 

 

[Buffalo03]

3 hours ago, Mikie2times said:

This is a bit of my own therapy.....

 

Regardless of how you break down the game, for two straight years, we’ve had the ball down by three with our number-one-rated offense, our Superman quarterback, and a chance to tie or win the game. In both years, we failed to do so. It’s difficult to place a lot of blame on a guy who’s literally one of the only reasons we even made it to this point. But the question that we have been asking, and that we all want to know, is: why can’t we get past a certain point in the playoffs? To me, the type of quarterback Josh Allen is is at least part of that story—certainly not all of it—and clearly we wouldn’t even be here in the first place without him. Josh is the most talented quarterback in the NFL. He is the most valuable quarterback in the NFL, but he’s more of a sandlot-style player. His greatest strengths aren’t reading defenses, making pre-snap reads, delivering the hot ball quickly, or running a systematic offense. He’s not like Brady, Montana, or Burrow. And when you’re in moments where you have one drive and it needs to be executed perfectly, his style of quarterback play, in my view, is not optimal. In both years he very well could have overcome it as both of these drives we had a wide receiver or tight end drop a critical ball that could’ve changed the outcome of the game. So we this isn’t on Josh so don’t twist my position that way. Not the optimal style of play for those moments from my view. That is all, we lost as a team.

 

Speaking on which……

 

We’ve missed on several first-round draft choices for multiple years—Elam, Kincaid—and while I wouldn’t say Coleman's is a straight-up miss, when the opportunity was there to potentially draft Worthy or trade up for Thomas, we chose to go with the most risky option: a player that many people were staying away from because of separation issues. We SHOULD be asking questions about our draft strategy. We’ve done a good job in the mid-to-late rounds finding starting-level talent, but we’ve failed to find elite players, elite difference-makers. Further the roster construction at times has been a bit of a head scratcher. We made a great selection in Shakir. He’s shown to be a great YAC guy and a valuable slot receiver. Then we draft Kincaid, who is not a full-time, run-blocking, pass-catching tight end—he’s a receiving tight end. And guess what? You’re not going to be splitting him out wide very often. He’s almost always going to occupy one of your slot roles. Then what do we do in the offseason? We sign Curtis Samuel, who’s another slot-type guy. If that wasn’t enough, if you review Coleman’s tape and some of his advanced stats from MSU and Florida State, you'd see he performed best out of the big slot role, which negated some of his issues, like trouble getting off the ball and separation issues. There was no cohesion in these decisions. There were no complementary wide receivers. It almost felt like when Dorsey called plays, he was calling each one individually, as if the play before had no impact on the next. It felt like we just decided to take players we thought were good and figured we’d make it work later.

 

On the defensive side, I’ve been one of the most vocal critics of McDermott, but I’m tired of it. He’s our coach, and it seems likely he’s not going anywhere for a very long time, right or wrong. I’m tired of 80% of my posts crapping on him. We made some stops in yesterday’s game, and we adjusted pretty effectively in the second half. I trust him as a coach who can stabilize a team, even though I don’t like his system. Crap on him or not, at the end of the day, Kansas City has had incredible success against his system—more so than any other team they’ve faced in the playoffs. Those are facts. Kansas City performs exceptionally well against our defense, especially in the playoffs.

 

We’ve been at this for eight years, and we just don’t have the horses on defense. We lost both of our starting safeties and replaced them with virtually nobody. We have no depth at corner. We had Milano, who we knew wasn’t going to be ready for most of the season, and Bernard, who was a good mid-round pick. We don’t have any players who are top 8 at their positions, outside of Taron Johnson. Maybe Benford, but we just don’t have the horses. So regardless of whether you want to call McDermott’s scheme trash, and it certainly looks that way against Kansas City, he won’t be able to execute it with this talent level.

 

Then there’s the play-calling on offense. We’ve become so dependent on the tush push that we didn’t develop any other short-yardage plays. The only other short-yardage play we had was basically a speed option with Josh and Cook, which worked for a touchdown, one of the most amazing runs I’ve seen from a Bills player in years. But that’s about it. Look at how Kansas City schemed their bootlegs and short-yardage plays against us. When you’re dealing with a heavily compacted defense, if the end is not disciplined (and ours wasn’t), it’s game over. We had no short-yardage plays outside of the one we saw. When you’re going to scheme plays offensively to essentially put yourself in short-yardage situations, you should have a full arsenal of 1- to 2-yard plays at your disposal. But we just said, "Well, screw it, because we’re good at this." Some could argue that Philadelphia is similar, but I’ve never seen Jalen Hurts get stuffed on his own 1-yard line, fumble the ball, and nearly cost his team the game. The second Josh got stuffed on the first sneak for the 2-point conversion, that should’ve been a wake-up call. The push from Kansas City, in addition to Josh’s tentativeness, showed it was a mistake to keep running that play. I don’t care if he got the first down or not—time has told us that you cannot leave it in the hands of the refs.

 

We have a long season ahead and a lot of thinking to do. It sucks, and I don’t know what the answer is. We have some good players, but part of the issue when you re-sign a player whose good but not great is that they occupy that role for a significant time, and you don’t get the chance to get another great player in that spot because you think you’re good enough. It really feels like this team needs a reset, and I don’t know if that’s McDermott or not. As I said, I’m not going to continue talking about him after this post. It’s too much negativity. But this team is starting to feel like it needs the plug pulled. Not because it hasn't been very successful or McD sucks or bla bla, but more because it needs a violent shake-up to go further than it has. If that costs us a year to rebuild, I don’t care. This regime and these players have failed to get it done. Eventually, we need to figure out how to stop that from happening. You can’t just keep saying, "Well, Kansas City is the best, and we lost to the best, so that’s how it is." No. We were inches away from beating the best multiple times. A little better scheme, a little better execution, and a little better roster would’ve made the difference. It was that close, but we failed again. Perhaps we just keep running it back, I just don't know how that is the answer. But when I say blow it up it's not out of hate for these guys. I just don't know what the path forward can be.

 

Love you all and I wish we didn’t have to go thru this.

Are you gonna get this novel published?

[GoBills808]

too much scar tissue at this point

 

you can see it. they play tense and it's only going to get worse the next time we play the Chiefs in the postseason

[Kelly to Allen]

They're further away than the score indicated. 

 

No blue chip players around Allen.

Very avg coach with a historically bad defense in the playoffs 

Cap situation isn't bad but we aren't making some huge significant signing 

Gm has been terrible in the draft at the top. 

 

This regime is living off the greatness of an all time all time QB and has done very little 

 

Even going back to Edmunds and Cody Ford. We are overrated in talent 

5 minutes ago, GoBills808 said:

too much scar tissue at this point

 

you can see it. they play tense and it's only going to get worse the next time we play the Chiefs in the postseason

 

Yup. It only got worse for the Warren Moon oilers. That team was mentally fragile and you can see it with this team and coach. 

 

It's why I want to move on from McDermott and Beane

 

We've all seen how this ends 

Edited yesterday at 03:51 AM by Kelly to Allen

[FireChans]

2 minutes ago, GoBills808 said:

too much scar tissue at this point

 

you can see it. they play tense and it's only going to get worse the next time we play the Chiefs in the postseason

Yep.

 

Why does anyone think any Bills player or coach is going to listen to McD’s messaging next year prepping for the Chiefs in the AFCCG or divisional round and truly believe, in their heart of hearts, that they can win? 
 

The Pats won games against the Bills for years before they ever played a down. The Chiefs do the same. they all know how it’s gonna go. 
 

in the next 8 years, what is more likely? The Bills are 0-8 against the Chiefs in the playoffs or the Bills are 4-4 against the Chiefs in the playoffs. We all know the answer.

[GoBills808]

1 minute ago, FireChans said:

Yep.

 

Why does anyone think any Bills player or coach is going to listen to McD’s messaging next year prepping for the Chiefs in the AFCCG or divisional round and truly believe, in their heart of hearts, that they can win? 
 

The Pats won games against the Bills for years before they ever played a down. The Chiefs do the same. they all know how it’s gonna go. 
 

in the next 8 years, what is more likely? The Bills are 0-8 against the Chiefs in the playoffs or the Bills are 4-4 against the Chiefs in the playoffs. We all know the answer.

I truly believe it. I don't think this is just end of season mope

 

I just do not believe this team is capable of winning a championship. It's why I would have cleaned house after 13 seconds. It's too late now

 

too much scar tissue. This team is Rory McIlroy in majors

[Big Blitz]

8 minutes ago, GoBills808 said:

too much scar tissue at this point

 

you can see it. they play tense and it's only going to get worse the next time we play the Chiefs in the postseason

 

This is real.  My biggest concern - and I said this after 13 seconds.  
 

My immediate reaction that night was you have to fire everyone bc this is a loss you don’t overcome.  
 

Now, they have.  The team has been great since.  
 

But it keeps losing to the Chiefs.  

[Governor]

This game was really interesting. It was full of brief flashbacks of all the issues (big and small) the team has ever encountered along the way since Josh was drafted, even with moments that reminded me of the Texans playoff game Josh/OL issues/inexperience. High moments, low moments, failure, success, excitement, dread, joy, sadness. It had it all in one game.

Edited yesterday at 04:02 AM by Governor

[GETTOTHE50]

21 minutes ago, GoBills808 said:

too much scar tissue at this point

 

you can see it. they play tense and it's only going to get worse the next time we play the Chiefs in the postseason

I think the pressure is now going to wear off personally. They last 4x already to them, what’s another one at this point.

 

they should really go into these future games with the attitude of nothing to lose, because they’ve already experienced the full capacity of it

 

like they’ve already hit rock bottom. 

Edited yesterday at 04:07 AM by GETTOTHE50

[Doc Brown]

12 minutes ago, Mikie2times said:

 

 

 

We tried that already.  Go to 7:53.

 

 

[Mikie2times]

1 minute ago, Doc Brown said:

We tried that already.  Go to 7:53.

 

 

How aboot a boot?

 

I wasn't able to watch that game and I'm glad I didn't. But you have to get outside a few times in that spot. That, or you run single wing with Allen. The sneak was just suicide. 

[Buffalo03]

We can't get over the hump because of the Chiefs. Plain and simple. But look at it this way, who else is getting past them besides Burrow one time? If the Chiefs were any other playoff team or had any other QB, then we would have been to at least 2 Super Bowls by now

Edited yesterday at 04:07 AM by Buffalo03

[Doc Brown]

2 minutes ago, Mikie2times said:

How aboot a boot?

 

I wasn't able to watch that game and I'm glad I didn't. But you have to get outside a few times in that spot. That, or you run single wing with Allen. The sneak was just suicide. 

It is kind of funny you singled out the one trick play that Daboll stole from and failed miserably to replicate.  I agree with you though and they need more in their arsenal on 3rd/4th and short though.  It's obviously not automatic.

[Mikie2times]

4 minutes ago, GETTOTHE50 said:

I think the pressure is now going to wear off personally. They last 4x already to them, what’s another one at this point.

 

they should really go into these future games with the attitude of nothing to lose, because they’ve already experienced the full capacity of it

 

like they’ve already hit rock bottom. 

You might think this, but it didn't go that way with the 90's teams. I think you can sell that to yourself all the way up until that moment of adversity. Buffalo might have felt like they could win the 4th Super Bowl but after the fumble it was clear the game was over. 

1 minute ago, Doc Brown said:

It is kind of funny you singled out the one trick play that Daboll stole from and failed miserably to replicate.  I agree with you though and they need more in their arsenal on 3rd/4th and short though.  It's obviously not automatic.

Always loved that play

[Buffalo03]

4 hours ago, Mikie2times said:

This is a bit of my own therapy.....

 

Regardless of how you break down the game, for two straight years, we’ve had the ball down by three with our number-one-rated offense, our Superman quarterback, and a chance to tie or win the game. In both years, we failed to do so. It’s difficult to place a lot of blame on a guy who’s literally one of the only reasons we even made it to this point. But the question that we have been asking, and that we all want to know, is: why can’t we get past a certain point in the playoffs? To me, the type of quarterback Josh Allen is is at least part of that story—certainly not all of it—and clearly we wouldn’t even be here in the first place without him. Josh is the most talented quarterback in the NFL. He is the most valuable quarterback in the NFL, but he’s more of a sandlot-style player. His greatest strengths aren’t reading defenses, making pre-snap reads, delivering the hot ball quickly, or running a systematic offense. He’s not like Brady, Montana, or Burrow. And when you’re in moments where you have one drive and it needs to be executed perfectly, his style of quarterback play, in my view, is not optimal. In both years he very well could have overcome it as both of these drives we had a wide receiver or tight end drop a critical ball that could’ve changed the outcome of the game. So we this isn’t on Josh so don’t twist my position that way. Not the optimal style of play for those moments from my view. That is all, we lost as a team.

 

Speaking on which……

 

We’ve missed on several first-round draft choices for multiple years—Elam, Kincaid—and while I wouldn’t say Coleman's is a straight-up miss, when the opportunity was there to potentially draft Worthy or trade up for Thomas, we chose to go with the most risky option: a player that many people were staying away from because of separation issues. We SHOULD be asking questions about our draft strategy. We’ve done a good job in the mid-to-late rounds finding starting-level talent, but we’ve failed to find elite players, elite difference-makers. Further the roster construction at times has been a bit of a head scratcher. We made a great selection in Shakir. He’s shown to be a great YAC guy and a valuable slot receiver. Then we draft Kincaid, who is not a full-time, run-blocking, pass-catching tight end—he’s a receiving tight end. And guess what? You’re not going to be splitting him out wide very often. He’s almost always going to occupy one of your slot roles. Then what do we do in the offseason? We sign Curtis Samuel, who’s another slot-type guy. If that wasn’t enough, if you review Coleman’s tape and some of his advanced stats from MSU and Florida State, you'd see he performed best out of the big slot role, which negated some of his issues, like trouble getting off the ball and separation issues. There was no cohesion in these decisions. There were no complementary wide receivers. It almost felt like when Dorsey called plays, he was calling each one individually, as if the play before had no impact on the next. It felt like we just decided to take players we thought were good and figured we’d make it work later.

 

On the defensive side, I’ve been one of the most vocal critics of McDermott, but I’m tired of it. He’s our coach, and it seems likely he’s not going anywhere for a very long time, right or wrong. I’m tired of 80% of my posts crapping on him. We made some stops in yesterday’s game, and we adjusted pretty effectively in the second half. I trust him as a coach who can stabilize a team, even though I don’t like his system. Crap on him or not, at the end of the day, Kansas City has had incredible success against his system—more so than any other team they’ve faced in the playoffs. Those are facts. Kansas City performs exceptionally well against our defense, especially in the playoffs.

 

We’ve been at this for eight years, and we just don’t have the horses on defense. We lost both of our starting safeties and replaced them with virtually nobody. We have no depth at corner. We had Milano, who we knew wasn’t going to be ready for most of the season, and Bernard, who was a good mid-round pick. We don’t have any players who are top 8 at their positions, outside of Taron Johnson. Maybe Benford, but we just don’t have the horses. So regardless of whether you want to call McDermott’s scheme trash, and it certainly looks that way against Kansas City, he won’t be able to execute it with this talent level.

 

Then there’s the play-calling on offense. We’ve become so dependent on the tush push that we didn’t develop any other short-yardage plays. The only other short-yardage play we had was basically a speed option with Josh and Cook, which worked for a touchdown, one of the most amazing runs I’ve seen from a Bills player in years. But that’s about it. Look at how Kansas City schemed their bootlegs and short-yardage plays against us. When you’re dealing with a heavily compacted defense, if the end is not disciplined (and ours wasn’t), it’s game over. We had no short-yardage plays outside of the one we saw. When you’re going to scheme plays offensively to essentially put yourself in short-yardage situations, you should have a full arsenal of 1- to 2-yard plays at your disposal. But we just said, "Well, screw it, because we’re good at this." Some could argue that Philadelphia is similar, but I’ve never seen Jalen Hurts get stuffed on his own 1-yard line, fumble the ball, and nearly cost his team the game. The second Josh got stuffed on the first sneak for the 2-point conversion, that should’ve been a wake-up call. The push from Kansas City, in addition to Josh’s tentativeness, showed it was a mistake to keep running that play. I don’t care if he got the first down or not—time has told us that you cannot leave it in the hands of the refs.

 

We have a long season ahead and a lot of thinking to do. It sucks, and I don’t know what the answer is. We have some good players, but part of the issue when you re-sign a player whose good but not great is that they occupy that role for a significant time, and you don’t get the chance to get another great player in that spot because you think you’re good enough. It really feels like this team needs a reset, and I don’t know if that’s McDermott or not. As I said, I’m not going to continue talking about him after this post. It’s too much negativity. But this team is starting to feel like it needs the plug pulled. Not because it hasn't been very successful or McD sucks or bla bla, but more because it needs a violent shake-up to go further than it has. If that costs us a year to rebuild, I don’t care. This regime and these players have failed to get it done. Eventually, we need to figure out how to stop that from happening. You can’t just keep saying, "Well, Kansas City is the best, and we lost to the best, so that’s how it is." No. We were inches away from beating the best multiple times. A little better scheme, a little better execution, and a little better roster would’ve made the difference. It was that close, but we failed again. Perhaps we just keep running it back, I just don't know how that is the answer. But when I say blow it up it's not out of hate for these guys. I just don't know what the path forward can be.

 

Love you all and I wish we didn’t have to go thru this.

What makes you think Allen isn't all that great at reading defenses or presnap reads? He explains what he saw and the types of defensive looks he get in press conferences all the time

[zow2]

The only way they’re beating KC in the playoffs is if the Bills really get stout on defense, like KC and Philly.  Allen still in his prime years, we get them at home, and just blow them out like 34-13 or something.  Any kind of game where the Bills and Mahomes are trading the lead, its going their way in the end. 

[Doc Brown]

3 minutes ago, Mikie2times said:

Always loved that play

So did Daboll.