Brandon Beane is on the clock….

[oldmanfan]

2 minutes ago, OldTimer1960 said:

I agree - 1.  Worthy was not the position they were looking to fill and 2. Let’s see if he can stay healthy at 170lbs.  
 

However, I was not a fan of the Coleman pick - it dealt forced in that they wanted a bigger boundary receiver.  Still, he might develop and he deserves that chance, but they should bring in competition or a viable starter in case he doesn’t develop.  If that position was easy to fill, Gabe Davis would not have gotten the FA contract that he did.

 

Kincaid reportedly played with a torn PCL.  Doesn’t mean he shouldn’t have made that catch, but he still has a chance to be good - clearly though there were other good TEs in that draft who have outperformed him so far.  I expect he will rehab hard and come back to establish himself as a good player.

 

To your point about needing impact players- I agree.  Problem is picking late in each draft makes it much harder to find impact players compared to picking at the top of rounds.

 

 

No question about it being harder.  Beane and his scouts need to earn their $$.  And I left out what I ask for every year in the draft - a big tub of goo.  Need a 1T to anchor the middle of the line.

 

 

[ProcessTruster]

2 minutes ago, <bills4life> said:

Ladd mckonkey all day long. And it really wasn’t that hard to see. 

slot guy... already got one of those

[LABILLBACKER]

56 minutes ago, zow2 said:

I’m with you on this.  I was a massive Beane backer. But there are some serious cracks and if they don’t get fixed this foundation will fall down. 

He just can't keep failing on 1st thru 3rd round picks. These are important and should be valued.  These were supposed to be the picks used to build our defense. 

[OldTimer1960]

2 minutes ago, oldmanfan said:

No question about it being harder.  Beane and his scouts need to earn their $$.  And I left out what I ask for every year in the draft - a big tub of goo.  Need a 1T to anchor the middle of the line.

 

 

I agree with you there.  There are a number of those space eaters in this draft and may be able to get one back end of the 2nd.  Many think it’s a value mismatch in round 1 for the space eaters.

[harmonkillebrew]

Coleman was not the best option at WR in the draft and there were other rookies at WR that did a lot better.

https://www.statmuse.com/nfl/ask/nfl-rookie-receiving-yards-leaders-2024

He didn't really grow much over the course of the year and his lack of separation ability was glaring.  I'm not sure how much of a ceiling he has, so the Bills would be wise to invest further in WR with draft picks and probably a FA (Amari Cooper is probably not worth trying to re-sign)

[oldmanfan]

Need a good off-season to include young guys currently on the roster.  Coleman has to figure out how to use his body to get more separation.  Bishop looked pretty good and should start next to Rapp.  Carter and Solomon need to become assets on the D line.  Hardy needs to get off the practice squad and contribute at CB.  

Edited Monday at 11:51 PM by oldmanfan

[Niagara Dude]

1 hour ago, BillMafia716ix said:

This is a huge offseason for Brandon Beane. I’ve been big supporter of his throughout his time as GM but now he needs to make something happen. After last night, I know he has egg on his face right now gifting the Chiefs Xavier Worthy. I know the Diggs contract set him back on what he could do this past offseason but now he’s has to make something shake. 

The roster needs playmakers on both sides of the ball. 

I doubt Beane will do anything other then overpay some current guys and draft someone that no expected and tell everyone how lucky that fell to us.  Coleman/Kincaid and Elam are terrible picks for where we drafted them.  You can't coach speed or size and someone in the press needs to challenge him when he says he plays bigger then his size of plays faster then his forty time

 

Ladd McConkey who ran a 4.39 would have made a nice pick,  had a great rookie year but the Bills want big receiver to block in the running game

Edited Monday at 11:54 PM by Niagara Dude

[peterpan]

1 hour ago, 3rdand12 said:

I have to ask why Keon Coleman has not been successful at all really

 Shakir can play

 But Coleman looks ill fit to win games for Us

Is it Coaching ?

Or drafting ?

I was full on for 2 WRs early last year !

Pre draft I watched a number of keons YouTube highlights.  If those are this best plays, I have no idea what the bills saw in him.  

[Big Turk]

1 hour ago, Big Blitz said:

One thing about Worthy before you watch the Eagles shut him down - and let me make sure I’m clear - once Benford left coupled with no Rapp our SECONDARY IS GARBAGE not helped by ZERO PASS RUSH.  

 

Beane needs to find dudes on defense.  

 

Why? Those dudes they had when they were top 5 in defense multiple years and #1 at least once looked no different against the Chiefs than the defense from last night in the playoffs.

 

They just need an average defense and they need to get more offensive playmakers.

Edited Monday at 11:56 PM by Big Turk

[Niagara Dude]

10 minutes ago, ProcessTruster said:

slot guy... already got one of those

With his 4.3 speed you move him to the outside 

[Dablitzkrieg]

It's the same song and dance EVERY damn year.  In need of a #1 WR, pass rushers (multiple) and DB's.  We've all said this for 5 years 

Edited Monday at 11:56 PM by Dablitzkrieg

[BearNorth]

1 hour ago, Einstein said:

 

But you don’t trade with your arch nemesis.

 

 

Admittedly Bills were still in the drought, but I am remembering we owned the first round pick used to draft Mahomes?

[BuffaloRebound]

1 hour ago, JMM said:

Have to take a hard look at this defense approach. Because either it's not good and then McDermott has to be willing to change or Beane has to find a way to find the right players for it, but this D is killing us EVERY YEAR in the playoffs.

Yep.  We took our cap medicine this year and don’t have any bad contracts on books once Miller is cut.  

Do we double down on McDermotts conservative defensive philosophy with undersized players?  We’re gonna have some money to spend on free agents in addition to taking some high draft picks on that side of ball.  I think it’s time to start building a more aggressive defense with corners and safeties that can play man and add some more pass rushers in the D-Line.  

[CNYfan]

28 minutes ago, ProcessTruster said:

slot guy... already got one of those

Best Player Available, don't lose sight of that

[DuckyBoys]

we need bigger defenders and speed on the outside on offense  Beane been living off the Allen pick too long

[Mark92]

2 hours ago, LifeLongBillsFan said:

If no one gets fired for another failed playoff run - nothing is going to change next year.

Beane misses evey year in the draft yet he returns year after year.

How come we have no probowl first round pick?

Beane is the champion meh picks

They are going to tell us that nothing needs to change.  They have won 5 straight AFC East Titles, made it to 2 AFC Championship Games in 5 years.  Yada, Yada, Yada.  

[RyanC883]

2 hours ago, oldmanfan said:

I am not one to rue the Worthy thing.  At the time we had Shakir and Samuel, and wanted a bigger possession type target.  On offense we need to get another WR and keep Cook and Johnson.  Defense I see a splash for a FA rusher, and we need to add to the DBs.  Need a minimum of two good CBs.

 

perhaps Bean will draft another Elam. 

24 minutes ago, CNYfan said:

Best Player Available, don't lose sight of that

 

Bean loses sight of this early on and it costs us.  Later on he goes BPA, and those are his best picks on the roster sans JA. 

[BarleyNY]

1 hour ago, OldTimer1960 said:

I agree - 1.  Worthy was not the position they were looking to fill and 2. Let’s see if he can stay healthy at 170lbs.  
 

However, I was not a fan of the Coleman pick - it dealt forced in that they wanted a bigger boundary receiver.  Still, he might develop and he deserves that chance, but they should bring in competition or a viable starter in case he doesn’t develop.  If that position was easy to fill, Gabe Davis would not have gotten the FA contract that he did.

 

For the life of me I don’t understand the Bills thinking on this. The vast majority of GMs and draft analysts had Coleman as a Big Slot WR. The team certainly needed (needs) speed on the outside. Maybe they didn’t like Worthy because of his slight frame - and that is defensible- but I do not see what Coleman really brings to this WR corps, except some size and decent ability after the catch. He’s not fast or agile so he can’t separate at all. And he is not even particularly good at contested catches. I still don’t get it. 

[Comebackkid]

2 hours ago, 3rdand12 said:

I have to ask why Keon Coleman has not been successful at all really

 Shakir can play

 But Coleman looks ill fit to win games for Us

Is it Coaching ?

Or drafting ?

I was full on for 2 WRs early last year !

i have my reservations about bradies play calling when it comes to a passing offense and being able to 

integrate players and schemes that work together i'll wait and see how next year turns out.

48 minutes ago, DuckyBoys said:

we need bigger defenders and speed on the outside on offense  Beane been living off the Allen pick too long

we need bigger defenders on offense?  are you talking about the offensive line?

2 hours ago, 3rdand12 said:

I considered that.

But Bills cant afford to draft players that take years to develop early rounds.

Not sure who to blame here McD Staff of Beane's

 Elam comes to mind too quickly.

this is an issue as well because the bills (especially on D) love to draft players off of potential

[EasternOHBillsFan]

1 hour ago, Sojourner said:

Jump to comparison and several of us posters have referenced the Eagles and their changes and success these last few years since yesterdays loss…

 

 

They had a Super Bowl appearance which they should have won. Failed the next season by getting dumped in the wildcard round to the Bucs. 
 

They scrapped their OC and brought in Kellen Moore. 
Scrapped pretty much all their defensive staff but Fangio as DC was they key. 

They added:

• Saquon Barkley
• Zack Baun
• CJ Gardner-Johnson
• Oren Burks
• Mekhi Beckton

 

They gave new deals to:

• AJ Brown
• DeVonta Smith
• Jordan Maliata
• Landon Dickerson
• Reed Blankenship

Out of those draft there’s very few who aren’t key contributors or essential rotational players to their team. 
We need to hit on the people who possess the elite traits and college production. 
 

Coaching is a problem. But so are the players on the field. Need to be better all around and make appropriate changes if/when necessary. 
 

 

 

1. "The Philadelphia Eagles have $39.2 million in available cap space according to Over the Cap as of 3/17/2024. The Eagles have the fifth-most salary cap space in the NFL as of 3/17/2024." https://www.sharpfootballanalysis.com/analysis/eagles-salary-cap-free-agents-draft-picks-2024/

 

2. This strategy paid off because their draft picks were very successful, and let's face it, Beane has a spotty record with our draft picks.

 

We are in no position to guarantee either of these things happening you mentioned above... the Von Miller deal REALLY screwed us as well as the spotty draft picks.