Brandon Beane is on the clock….

[TurfToeJam]

10 minutes ago, KentuckyBillsFan said:

 

 

Feels inevitable that next year we'll be in the same spot because we don't have enough difference makers on offense or defense. 

 

 

 

I completely agree.  

 

Especially on defense though.  I could argue Milano was that guy when he was in his prime.  But he's not anymore.   

Edited yesterday at 03:04 PM by TurfToeJam

[nuklz2594]

screwed the pooch draftin g coleman. draft ladd to pair with shakir, they separate and wait for it...catch the ball. keep mack and curtis. no need to get cooooop. offense fixed. not rocket surgery. stop trying to be the smartest guy in the room. btw...get a dline that is stout. have one of smallest dlines in entire league...study chris jones for clones. we are slow past dline. 

our best defenses were 3-4

[The Jokeman]

1 hour ago, KentuckyBillsFan said:

Just feels like we're running circles. We've had the same issues for half a decade and we're expecting the group that hasn't been able to fix those issues to suddenly be able to.

 

Feels inevitable that next year we'll be in the same spot because we don't have enough difference makers on offense or defense. 

 

Late January 2026:

 

"We just need a guy who can separate"

 

"Everyone eats until you need to convert a 4th and 5 to win the game"

 

"We just couldn't get any pressure on Mahomes/Jackson/Burrow"

 

"Our secondary just doesn't have the speed"

 

I'm so tired of it.

I guess we could always be the Bears again. 

[dpberr]

He overthinks the first round picks.  Last year was a great example.  There was overwhelming broad consensus that Ladd McConkey had elite route running skills that reliably gets open.  Every draft profile says the same thing.  Just make the pick.  

 

For 2025, I'd like for him to get some gigantic, mean defensive tackles and some athletic corners that understand man and zone defense.  I'd love for the defense in 2025 to flow through the Defensive Tackle position.    

[nosejob]

1 hour ago, TurfToeJam said:

 

I completely agree.  

 

Especially on defense though.  I could argue Milano was that guy when he was in his prime.  But he's not anymore.   

Just like Beane eventually built an Oline and backed it up for the future, I think he'll do the same with the Dline. However, McD being stuck in his ways and Babich being young may negate helping matters.

[The Jokeman]

59 minutes ago, BillsVet said:

 

Teams that both draft and are coached well tend to win in the post-season.  Besides, who do you think drafted Kelce, Jones, and Mahomes?  Reid's been there since 2013 and Veach since 2017 as GM and before that as a personnel assistant.  

Kelce was drafted in 2013 Jones was drafted in 2016, before McDermott/Beane showed up on the scene. 

[The Jokeman]

14 minutes ago, dpberr said:

He overthinks the first round picks.  Last year was a great example.  There was overwhelming broad consensus that Ladd McConkey had elite route running skills that reliably gets open.  Every draft profile says the same thing.  Just make the pick.  

 

For 2025, I'd like for him to get some gigantic, mean defensive tackles and some athletic corners that understand man and zone defense.  I'd love for the defense in 2025 to flow through the Defensive Tackle position.    

and again why was Ladd so successful? He was given an opportunities because the WRs around him were sub par toss in plays the slot, how would we benefited having him? McConkey was in on 68.9% of the Chargers snaps, Keon was on 55% of the Bills snaps. If we draft McConkey then we take Shakir off the field and put who on the outside where Keon played? People talk about that Coleman can't get separation, he broke 4 tackles on 29 reception, by comparison Ladd broke 10 tackles on 84 catches. Keon had 7.4 yards of RAC per catch, Ladd had 4.8. 

[Rocbillsfan1]

47 minutes ago, dpberr said:

He overthinks the first round picks.  Last year was a great example.  There was overwhelming broad consensus that Ladd McConkey had elite route running skills that reliably gets open.  Every draft profile says the same thing.  Just make the pick.  

 

For 2025, I'd like for him to get some gigantic, mean defensive tackles and some athletic corners that understand man and zone defense.  I'd love for the defense in 2025 to flow through the Defensive Tackle position.    

I really wanted Ladd but everyone said well he plays the same position as Shakir. Well at least we knew he was good. I don’t know if Coleman will ever pan out. 

Stop drafting for need, just draft the best players period. 

[BillsVet]

42 minutes ago, The Jokeman said:

Kelce was drafted in 2013 Jones was drafted in 2016, before McDermott/Beane showed up on the scene. 

 

KC's HC at the time was Andy Reid, who has a similar degree of authority in their front office as McD does in Buffalo. 

 

Just take the L and move on.  

[The Jokeman]

1 hour ago, BillsVet said:

 

KC's HC at the time was Andy Reid, who has a similar degree of authority in their front office as McD does in Buffalo. 

 

Just take the L and move on.  

I've accepted the loss but demonstrating that guys who were drafted before our front office came in played a role in KC beating us the last 4 seasons. Can we blame our front office on missing out on better talent? Sure, in retrospect Von was a mistake but he was pretty good when he was healthy that first season, too bad for the injury. 

[nedboy7]

Overall I think Bean does a good job in the draft.  But the lack of production from 1st rounders is concerning.  He needs to step up. 

Kincaid, Elam, Coleman are not really 1st round returns. 

Maybe he should trade the 1st rounders for 8 4th rounders. 

[somnus00]

I like Beane, but he has been pretty lousy with his drafting in rounds 1 and 2. At this point, I'm wondering if he goes the Rams route and trades these picks for proven veterans. The Bills just aren't getting value out of rounds 1 and 2. That's inexcusable, and no way to win a Lombardi.

 

No team drafts perfectly, but the top teams consistently get "pro-bowl" caliber production out of the top 2 rounds. The Bills don't.

[Sojourner]

3 hours ago, nosejob said:

Just like Beane eventually built an Oline and backed it up for the future, I think he'll do the same with the Dline. However, McD being stuck in his ways and Babich being young may negate helping matters.

I respect your enthusiasm. They’ve failed to do it going into year 8 of their regime pairing. I’m not holding my breath they fix that DLine in one off-season let alone two. 
 

Hopefully they prove doubters wrong but the history of their efforts says otherwise. 

[Pete]

Carlton Davis III is a physical CB.  This may be whom we target tampering period.  CB will be prioritized in FA IMO

 

WR Chris Godwin is 6'1 208, has great hands, is known for his blocking skills, and ran a 4.41 at combine, is whom I think the Bills might also sign during the tampering period, imo.   Godwin suffered an ankle injury late in season, and will be signed discounted

Edited yesterday at 08:59 PM by Pete

[turbo044]

4 hours ago, The Jokeman said:

and again why was Ladd so successful? He was given an opportunities because the WRs around him were sub par toss in plays the slot, how would we benefited having him? McConkey was in on 68.9% of the Chargers snaps, Keon was on 55% of the Bills snaps. If we draft McConkey then we take Shakir off the field and put who on the outside where Keon played? People talk about that Coleman can't get separation, he broke 4 tackles on 29 reception, by comparison Ladd broke 10 tackles on 84 catches. Keon had 7.4 yards of RAC per catch, Ladd had 4.8. 

So Ladd and Shakir couldn't have been on the field at the same time?  Interesting. One interesting thing you brought up:  Coleman 29 receptions, Ladd 84......

[Process]

Odd we haven't heard from Beane, usually does his year end press conference within a couple days of season end.

[jaybeezee]

Chiefs fans hope we keep McDeremott for as long as possible. Ive been seeing posts all over various social media outlets stating that they love the fact the we have McD and Beane. They know that his scheme is antiquated and he is unable to really adjust in game. They love Beane because he wastes our early draft picks (if hes not trading them to him) and the players that we draft dont really turn the tide to beating them.

 

Its actually comical because we do the same to the Fins and Jets fans every year. We hope they keep the Gases, Salehs, Miami's McD because we pummel them year after year with no real threat of beating us in the playoffs.

[DeltaDigital]

On 1/27/2025 at 6:20 PM, Sojourner said:

Jump to comparison and several of us posters have referenced the Eagles and their changes and success these last few years since yesterdays loss…

 

 

They had a Super Bowl appearance which they should have won. Failed the next season by getting dumped in the wildcard round to the Bucs. 
 

They scrapped their OC and brought in Kellen Moore. 
Scrapped pretty much all their defensive staff but Fangio as DC was they key. 

They added:

• Saquon Barkley
• Zack Baun
• CJ Gardner-Johnson
• Oren Burks
• Mekhi Beckton

 

They gave new deals to:

• AJ Brown
• DeVonta Smith
• Jordan Maliata
• Landon Dickerson
• Reed Blankenship

 

During Hurts taking over their draftees in the first 3 rounds each year have been: 

2021

1. DeVonta Smith
2. Landon Dickerson
3. Milton Williams
    

2022

1. Jordan Davis
2. Cam Jurgens
3. Nakobe Dean

 

2023

1. Jalen Carter & Nolan Smith
2. none
3. Tyler Steen & Sydney Brown

2024

1. Quinyon Mitchell
2. Cooper DeJean
3. Jalyx Hunt

 

Out of those draft there’s very few who aren’t key contributors or essential rotational players to their team. 
We need to hit on the people who possess the elite traits and college production. 
 

Coaching is a problem. But so are the players on the field. Need to be better all around and make appropriate changes if/when necessary. 
 

 

this roster is almost unfair. 

[jaybeezee]

49 minutes ago, turbo044 said:

So Ladd and Shakir couldn't have been on the field at the same time?  Interesting. One interesting thing you brought up:  Coleman 29 receptions, Ladd 84......

I was thinking the same thing. I told people that he would hide out until Wednesday at the latest. He hasnt got much to say outside of the fact the he is dedicated to righting the ship and will exhaust all measures and leave stone unturned. That is until FA hits and he over pays some scrub like he did with Harty and then tell us how we are focused on resigning our own in the form of Hamlin, Douglass, all the while neglecting Cook.

 

I like the person, but im all set with Beane the GM!

[jaybeezee]

5 hours ago, nosejob said:

Just like Beane eventually built an Oline and backed it up for the future, I think he'll do the same with the Dline. However, McD being stuck in his ways and Babich being young may negate helping matters.

When will this happen? When Josh is 35 and on the decline. Yeah... Then we can say we have a stout D-Line, but offense is trash. 

 

The time is now to go First Round WR, not just any WR, but one with size, speed and some sort of route tree. Cant tell me that we cant get one in the first and/or second round, ive seen several contending teams do it. If they arent there, then trade a first, or 1 of our seconds to for a bonified WR Lets not forget Beane passes on DK Metcalfe for Cody Ford!