Josh Allen complaints

[DrBob806]

On 1/27/2025 at 2:07 PM, Toledo Bill said:

As I read complaints about Allen's performance, I understand he did not play his best and everyone, of course has their right to opinions. "He choked", "he missed this, he missed that", etc. I understand and empathize with the frustration. 
i have been a Bills fan since their inception and he is the most athletically gifted quarterback I have ever seen in the NFL.

I appreciate him as an athlete and as a person. My only point... complain and criticize him if you will, but once in a while take a breath and be thankful for the talent and heart we are witnessing from this generational person. He has brought so much joy and excitement to the organization and community. Critique all you want but appreciate what we have... where would this team be without him?

Go Bills!

JA is great, but you may have missed Steve Young or Michael Vick.

[Simon]

Just now, GoBills808 said:

I can't say that

Maybe it serves to let guys know scramble drill is on. Maybe it serves to encourage the flag

 

Regardless I've seen Mahomes do it too. Probably other QBs as well...it might just be instinctual 

 

Those guys know when the scramble drill is on when he starts scrambling.

And the guy with the flag in his pocket isn't looking anywhere near teh QB, he's watching his area of responsibility.

I agree it's instinctual and thus a hard habit to break, but it accomplishes absolutely nothing but to compromise Allen's concentration, balance, ball security, etc.

[GoBills808]

4 minutes ago, Simon said:

 

Those guys know when the scramble drill is on when he starts scrambling.

And the guy with the flag in his pocket isn't looking anywhere near teh QB, he's watching his area of responsibility.

I agree it's instinctual and thus a hard habit to break, but it accomplishes absolutely nothing but to compromise Allen's concentration, balance, ball security, etc.

I'm saying there's a difference between normal scramble drill and a free play

[Gugny]

If we can’t trust him to be at his best when the team needs it most, then he deserves criticism. 
 

It’s okay to love all of the great things he does AND to point out when he comes up short. 
 

It doesn’t have to be one or the other. 
 

He needs to be more reliable in the post season. 
 

Period. 

[CincyBillsFan]

On 1/28/2025 at 4:43 PM, Gugny said:

If we can’t trust him to be at his best when the team needs it most, then he deserves criticism. 
 

It’s okay to love all of the great things he does AND to point out when he comes up short. 
 

It doesn’t have to be one or the other. 
 

He needs to be more reliable in the post season. 
 

Period. 

Allen has been one of the few if not ONLY Buffalo Bill who has proven to be reliable and perform at an elevated level in the playoffs.  If those around Allen, both coaches & players, had been as reliably great during the playoffs as Allen has then the Bills would have a minimum of 2 Super Bowl championships and likely be heading for their 3rd.

 

I won't criticize Allen until I see other players/coaches on this team rising to the occasion in the playoffs to the same degree and with the same consistency as Allen has. Period, end of discussion.

 

 

[RkFast]

On 1/27/2025 at 2:07 PM, Toledo Bill said:

As I read complaints about Allen's performance, I understand he did not play his best and everyone, of course has their right to opinions. "He choked", "he missed this, he missed that", etc. I understand and empathize with the frustration. 
i have been a Bills fan since their inception and he is the most athletically gifted quarterback I have ever seen in the NFL.

I appreciate him as an athlete and as a person. My only point... complain and criticize him if you will, but once in a while take a breath and be thankful for the talent and heart we are witnessing from this generational person. He has brought so much joy and excitement to the organization and community. Critique all you want but appreciate what we have... where would this team be without him?

Go Bills!

 

I love Josh Allen. I replaced the angel on top of my Christmas Tree with a picture of Josh this year, fer chrissakes. But the lionizing of him needs to stop. Hes not immortal. Hes not infallible. Hes not the Holy Father Pope Josh P Allen the Second. Hes a football player and one that does have flaws in his game that DO seem to manifest themselves quite often at the worst possible times. And its OK to admit that and put blame for bad things at his feet when they are warranted. 

[Pete]

1 minute ago, CincyBillsFan said:

Allen has been one of the few if not ONLY Buffalo Bill who has proven to be reliable and perform at an elevated level in the playoffs.  If those around Allen, both coaches & players, had been as reliably great during the playoffs as Allen has then the Bills would have a minimum of 2 Super Bowl championships and likely be heading for their 3rd.

 

I won't criticize Allen until I see other players/coaches on this team rising to the occasion in the playoffs to the same degree and with the same consistency as Allen has. Period, end of discussion.

 

 

Josh walked off the field with the lead and 13 seconds.

Josh did not miss the FG which would of tied the game.

Josh did not drop a non contested, catchable on 4th and five

[RkFast]

4 minutes ago, Pete said:

Josh walked off the field with the lead and 13 seconds.

 

 

If we are going to play this game, then ROB JOHNSON needs to bumped up a few notches on the ranking of Bills QBs.  Becuase last I checked he walked off that field in Nashville....

 

See how silly this is?

Edited 3 hours ago by RkFast

[ddaryl]

On 1/27/2025 at 11:16 AM, 78thealltimegreat said:

He was amped up and his ball was sailing but let’s face it this isn’t his fault and no other QB on the planet could even get this throw off 

 

No Blitz pickup.. How did we not see this coming

[Gugny]

18 minutes ago, CincyBillsFan said:

Allen has been one of the few if not ONLY Buffalo Bill who has proven to be reliable and perform at an elevated level in the playoffs.  If those around Allen, both coaches & players, had been as reliably great during the playoffs as Allen has then the Bills would have a minimum of 2 Super Bowl championships and likely be heading for their 3rd.

 

I won't criticize Allen until I see other players/coaches on this team rising to the occasion in the playoffs to the same degree and with the same consistency as Allen has. Period, end of discussion.

 

 

He has been fantastic.  
 

Until he hasn’t been.  
 

He folded last Sunday. We all know it and it’s okay to say it out loud. 
 

Being awesome 90% of the time is great … unless that other 10% is late on the game during must-score drives. 
 

Which is exactly what happened. 

[Billsatlastin2018]

On 1/27/2025 at 2:07 PM, Toledo Bill said:

As I read complaints about Allen's performance, I understand he did not play his best and everyone, of course has their right to opinions. "He choked", "he missed this, he missed that", etc. I understand and empathize with the frustration. 
i have been a Bills fan since their inception and he is the most athletically gifted quarterback I have ever seen in the NFL.

I appreciate him as an athlete and as a person. My only point... complain and criticize him if you will, but once in a while take a breath and be thankful for the talent and heart we are witnessing from this generational person. He has brought so much joy and excitement to the organization and community. Critique all you want but appreciate what we have... where would this team be without him?

Go Bills!

Exactly!

 

Encore une fois, this Josh choke job was part of SIX… count em SIX PLAYOFF LOSSES, when the Team’s Offense scores 4 TDs ( 2 through Allen Passing + 2 Rushing) & does NOT give up a Turnover! 
 

The record… since 1972… IS 85-6! 
 

The Bills have had TWO of the 6 Losses v.s. the Chiefs! 
 

Without going into the entire season of gashed all over the field Defensive non stops, let’s just end with the finale.

 

Is it too much to ask that the D stop ONE 3rd & 9 play? Again… NINE YARDS!!!
is it too much to ask that there be a defender in the picture when the totally wide open Receiver catches the ball?

Is it too much to ask that the defender wraps up the Receiver 2 yards from the First Down marker?

 

NO TO ALL IF YOU HAVE THE 29th RANKED & PATHETIC 3RD DOWN D! 🤬

[RkFast]

9 minutes ago, Gugny said:

He has been fantastic.  
 

Until he hasn’t been.  
 

He folded last Sunday. We all know it and it’s okay to say it out loud. 
 

Being awesome 90% of the time is great … unless that other 10% is late on the game during must-score drives. 
 

Which is exactly what happened. 

 

You and I know of another fanbase thats having a VERY similar conversation right now, dont we?

 

7 minutes ago, Billsatlastin2018 said:

Exactly!

 

Encore une fois, this Josh choke job was part of SIX… count em SIX PLAYOFF LOSSES, when the Team’s Offense scores 4 TDs ( 2 through Allen Passing + 2 Rushing) & does NOT give up a Turnover! 
 

The record… since 1972… IS 85-6! 
 

The Bills have had TWO of the 6 Losses v.s. the Chiefs! 
 

Without going into the entire season of gashed all over the field Defensive non stops, let’s just end with the finale.

 

Is it too much to ask that the D stop ONE 3rd & 9 play? Again… NINE YARDS!!!
is it too much to ask that there be a defender in the picture when the totally wide open Receiver catches the ball?

Is it too much to ask that the defender wraps up the Receiver 2 yards from the First Down marker?

 

NO TO ALL IF YOU HAVE THE 29th RANKED & PATHETIC 3RD DOWN D! 🤬

 

NOBODY is saying that Allen bears the brunt of responsibility and EVERYONE is saying that the defense is the primary culprit.  

 

All people like me are doing is pushing back on the idea that Josh bears ZERO responsiblity for the losses. The Bills are ONE game over .500 in the playoffs with Josh Allen under center. One. He is the QB of this team and BY DEFINITION bears some of the responsibilty for that. 

Edited 3 hours ago by RkFast

[Buffalo4Life01]

30 minutes ago, RkFast said:

 

If we are going to play this game, then ROB JOHNSON needs to bumped up a few notches on the ranking of Bills QBs.  Becuase last I checked he walked off that field in Nashville....

 

See how silly this is?

Josh was 22-34 for 237 yards.  2 passing tds.  No picks. 2 sacks for negative 10 yards.   Also added another 39 yards on the ground.  Total performance of 276 yards and 2 td's with no turnovers.  104.7 rating.

Rob was 10-22 for 131 yards.  no passing td's.  no picks.  6 sacks for negative 34 yards.  He added 9 rushing yards on 3 carries.  Also lost 1 fumble.  Total performance of 140 total yards, no touchdowns, 1 turnover.  64.8 rating.

 

This comparison is one that can be called a huge 'reach'.  Might want to go back to the drawing board if this is the position someone wants to take....

Edited 2 hours ago by Buffalo4Life01

[Billsatlastin2018]

7 minutes ago, RkFast said:

 

You and I know of another fanbase thats having a VERY similar conversation right now, dont we?

 

 

NOBODY is saying that Allen bears the brunt of responsibility and EVERYONE is saying that the defense is the primary culprit.  

 

All people like me are doing is pushing back on the idea that Josh bears ZERO responsiblity for the losses. The Bills are ONE game over .500 in the playoffs with Josh Allen under center. One. He is the QB of this team and BY DEFINITION bears some of the responsibilty for that. 

In ALL of these terrible KC Losses, he bared some responsibility- minimal range.

 

Except ‘13 seconds’, where his responsibility is 0%! Absolutely, ***** nada!

 

For most of these, I rank:

 

1) The D ( at least a majority %)

2) McD (a significant minority %)

3) OCs ( a significant minority %)

4) ST Coaches ( a highly annoying minority %)

5) Various players who failed in critical situations, usually by failed kicks or dropping balls from Allen… right in their hands! 

[nuklz2594]

he was amped up and a case of the yips. every once in a while,the stage is a bit overwhelming. he will learn from it

[90sBills]

1 hour ago, Gugny said:

He has been fantastic.  
 

Until he hasn’t been.  
 

He folded last Sunday. We all know it and it’s okay to say it out loud. 
 

Being awesome 90% of the time is great … unless that other 10% is late on the game during must-score drives. 
 

Which is exactly what happened. 

I wouldn’t say ‘folded’ or ‘choked’. But he does get tight in big games and big moments, especially against KC. He hasn’t been comfortable in those situations since 13 sec.

 

Not performing optimally under pressure is where he’s behind Mahomes. Maybe a sports therapist could help.

 

 

[T master]

On 1/27/2025 at 1:07 PM, Toledo Bill said:

As I read complaints about Allen's performance, I understand he did not play his best and everyone, of course has their right to opinions. "He choked", "he missed this, he missed that", etc. I understand and empathize with the frustration. 
i have been a Bills fan since their inception and he is the most athletically gifted quarterback I have ever seen in the NFL.

I appreciate him as an athlete and as a person. My only point... complain and criticize him if you will, but once in a while take a breath and be thankful for the talent and heart we are witnessing from this generational person. He has brought so much joy and excitement to the organization and community. Critique all you want but appreciate what we have... where would this team be without him?

Go Bills!

 

You can bet that these complaints are coming from the same folks that are complaining that the Bills need to fire McD & Beane just a bunch of ingrates that can't see what they have and would rather complain than enjoy the ride . I bet their significant others have a wonderful life with these folks ...

[Matt_In_NH]

Saying Josh Allen choked is kind of ridiculous.   However any criticism of Josh Allen results in pitch forks back at whoever said such a thing....the masses will breakdown the decision or play and try to mansplain why it was the perfect action or decision and others are always to blame.  He had turnover worthy moments that did not result in turnovers..  Patrick Mahomes also had turnover worthy moments, one of which resulted in a actual turnover.   My point is Josh Allen is great, we should all be happy but it is also ok to say this play was not his best for the following reason.

 

The game was close, it came down to a couple crucial plays/calls by the refs.  The way this works nationally though is what it is, it is Josh Allen losing to Patrick Mahomes....just like it was Manning beating Brady in 3 of their 5 playoff matchups.  Mahomes is 4-0 vs Allen.  The last two Josh got the ball with 3+ minutes left and timeouts down by 3, both efforts resulted in 0 points....it sucks.   There are reasons beyond Allen and Mahomes that made it that way but that will not be what gets discussed.

Edited 25 minutes ago by Matt_In_NH

[colin]

allen was off on more throws than i would expect, he was yippy and excited.

 

if you replace allen on that team with any other qb in the nfl, including mahomes, you still lose and almost certainly by more.  

 

 

[Simon]

2 minutes ago, colin said:

allen was off on more throws than i would expect, he was yippy and excited.

 

I thought he was nervous ruight from the get go.

And he did miss a bunch more easy throws than he typically does, a couple for what could have been big plays.

I'm sort of wondering if the hand issue was messing with his delivery.