Josh Allen complaints

[Comebackkid]

Elam is just an epic disaster that makes you shake your head wondering where and how things went that wrong.

 

im hoping this year they just bandaged the backfield together and next year they remake it because it 

needs a lot of help.   

 

if you look at things as we have a rookie play caller on both Defense and Offense and our dead cap you could

say we over exceeded any realistic expectations anyone should have had.

 

on the other hand it makes u wonder why if we are so serious about a superbowl run we have two rookie play callers.

 

your asking two rookie play callers and a rag tag defense along with an offense with no elite players outside your rb and 

qb to beat the chiefs who have elite play callers on both sides  of the ball along with their own elite qb, elite TE, elite DE. 

 

Edited Tuesday at 12:58 AM by Comebackkid

[Low Positive]

Just now, Comebackkid said:

Elam is just an epic disaster that makes you shake your head wondering where and how things went that wrong.

 

im hoping this year they just bandaged the backfield together and next year the remake it because it 

needs a lot of help.   

 

if you look at things as we have a rookie play caller on both Defense and Offense and our dead cap you could

say we over exceeded and realistic expectations anyone should have had.

 

on the other hand it makes u wonder why if we are so serious about a superbowl run we have two rookie play callers.

 

your asking two rookie play callers and a rag tag defense along with an offense with no elite players outside your rb and 

qb to beat the chiefs who have elite play callers on both sides  of the ball along with their own elite qb, elite TE, elite DE. 

 

Joe Brady called plays in Carolina. 

[90sBills]

4 hours ago, The Jokeman said:

My biggest what if is if Reid didn't jump offside on the extra point...

Even when they mess up it benefits them. 

[Comebackkid]

1 hour ago, C.Biscuit97 said:

We had multiple top 3 defenses during Allen’s year here. Are we just making up things now? 

show one game where they had elite stats in the playoffs.  

and it was just the one year that they were close to healthy if i remember right.

 

1 minute ago, Low Positive said:

Joe Brady called plays in Carolina. 

its debatable how much he actually called....

not very many fans were upset that he left as well.

from what i read he was ok, just boring as hell.   

[90sBills]

44 minutes ago, 26TrapDraw said:

this more than anything on Defense. the Chiefs scored 30 + when they haven't done that much this season. This defense needs a lot of work.

It’s not the ‘85 Bears defense but they did managed to hold the 2 times defending champs to a fg with 3 minutes left. That gave our elite qb a chance to drive for the winning score. That’s all you could ask from your defense at that moment of the game.

 

Flip the situation around. Had KC’s defense held Allen and the offense to a fg with 3 minutes left for Mahomes they’d be proclaimed as a top defense today because Mahomes and their offense would finish that game off with a TD.

 

That’s what’s required from elite QBs to win championship games. We were in position and couldn’t execute. Another year another opportunity squandered by the offense in the waning minutes. 

[Thrivefourfive]

6 hours ago, Allen2Moulds said:

He started off erratic, almost like we were watching a diff QB, but settled in just before the half.  I think we got grossly outcoached on both sides of the ball, but there is also a personal deficiency.  

That’s it. Who was that guy, and that team..?! Darn it! 

[Thurman#1]

6 hours ago, Allen2Moulds said:

He started off erratic, almost like we were watching a diff QB, but settled in just before the half.  I think we got grossly outcoached on both sides of the ball, but there is also a personal deficiency.  

 

 

"Grossly" overstates it, but we had deficiencies there, no doubt about it. Also deficiencies in execution. 

 

We didn't play or coach well enough. 

 

We were good, very good. But you have to be absolutely excellent to beat the Chiefs. We weren't.

 

In the playoffs we've learned to expect so much from Josh. He played very well, sometimes incredibly. That throw to Kincaid was just unbelievable. But he also ruined the first drive and hurt a few others. But he didn't have a great game that went from start to finish. Nor did anyone else on the team.

[Goin Breakdown]

6 hours ago, Einstein said:

Torrence completely whiffed. He literally blocked NO ONE.

 

 

How the hell do you block no one. I swear KC is in these dudes heads. This sucks to see

[VW82]

It's pretty amazing how many guys, including Allen, had to underperform for us to lose by 3 on the road to the best team of the decade in a rebuilding year. 

 

Josh Allen is pretty freaking amazing, man. As much as I'm crushed (again), I'm thankful 17 is still here. Big time silver lining. 

Edited Tuesday at 02:05 AM by VW82

[Goin Breakdown]

7 minutes ago, VW82 said:

It's pretty amazing how many guys, including Allen, had to underperform for us to lose by 3 on the road to the best team of the decade in a rebuilding year. 

 

Josh Allen is pretty freaking amazing, man. As much as I'm crushed (again), I'm thankful 17 is still here. Big time silver lining. 

When we went for 2 the first time I said to my son "this will bite us in the end". KC went for 2 and got it. We went for two again and didn't. That's 3 points. It's all the little things that lose these games. Maybe a blow out would hurt less but it's little things like this and standing there watching dudes run by, or groot falling at Mahomes feet in pursuit of him. It's baffling. I know ball spotting was.....spotty, the 4th down Qb sneak that "failed" and the worthy "catch" was questionable too. All around it just piles up to an undisciplined mess. I can blame everyone and no one at the same time because it has just been so much to take in. 

[tigerthelion]

There is just a generally faulty line of thinking when it comes to Allen.  There is this expectation that he has to be perfect for the team to win.  Mahomes had his defense bail him out of last year's Super Bowl, but I don't hold that against him.  Mahomes sets the standard.  Whether Josh is on the level of Mahomes or not is irrelevant to me.  All I know is that Josh Allen is more than good enough to win a championship.  Any of the top five  qbs in the league are good enough,  with just a bit of help along the way.  This nitpicking every little play and pass and protection call is a waste of time.  Get more studs on offense or defense or whatever. Just get difference makers on the field.  Josh Allen should not have to be the undisputed number one QB in the league to win a championship. He is plenty good enough.  He is much better than guys like Stafford (sb champ) and Hurts (soon to be 2nd sb appearance).  

Edited Tuesday at 02:22 AM by tigerthelion

[VW82]

4 minutes ago, Goin Breakdown said:

When we went for 2 the first time I said to my son "this will bite us in the end". KC went for 2 and got it. We went for two again and didn't. That's 3 points. It's all the little things that lose these games. Maybe a blow out would hurt less but it's little things like this and standing there watching dudes run by, or groot falling at Mahomes feet in pursuit of him. It's baffling. I know ball spotting was.....spotty, the 4th down Qb sneak that "failed" and the worthy "catch" was questionable too. All around it just piles up to an undisciplined mess. I can blame everyone and no one at the same time because it has just been so much to take in. 

 

...Kincaid diving for the 1st on 3rd down and getting a terrible spot. Kincaid not coming up with the ball several times. KC with mutliple guys lining up in the neurtral zone, no call. Josh giving everyone jitters, teammates and coaches included, when he throws two dropped picks on the first possession. Running tush push over and over and not gettng it..very little from McD again outside of a couple successful pressures 2nd half... 

 

Chiefs are better but we need to win next year. F em.

[Thurman#1]

1 hour ago, Comebackkid said:

show one game where they had elite stats in the playoffs.  

and it was just the one year that they were close to healthy if i remember right.

 

its debatable how much he actually called....

not very many fans were upset that he left as well.

from what i read he was ok, just boring as hell.   

 

 

Elite, not many. But how many elite games does any team have when you give only a small playoff sample. Was the Chiefs D elite yesterday?

 

Good to very good? Pretty much all of them except the Chiefs games and that Bengals game.

 

As for elite ... the Pats game in the 2021 playoffs. It was 33-3 late in the third quarter. The Pats had scored 10 points till they scored another in garbage time after the two minute warning which made the score 47 - 17. Micah Hyde had that insane interception early.

 

That and the 17 - 3 victory against the Ravens where Taron Johnson had the 103 yard pick six.

 

 

Edited Tuesday at 02:39 AM by Thurman#1

[Buffalo03]

7 hours ago, 78thealltimegreat said:

He was amped up and his ball was sailing but let’s face it this isn’t his fault and no other QB on the planet could even get this throw off 

 

I still don't know how Kincaid didn't catch that

[Lfod]

I was joking around after the Texans game about him being a liability sometimes.  You can't really say one little thing and some people act like you walked in and dumped on his jersy. 

 

He started the first drive chucking it to the other team looking goofy looking like a liability again so I stay with that opinion. 

 

Great QB. Top Tier. Beats good teams. Throws his body on the line. He made what should of been a winning play. He just needs those cold souless eyes like Mahomes who looks bored like the game means nothing because hes already won. 

[78thealltimegreat]

14 minutes ago, Buffalo03 said:

I still don't know how Kincaid didn't catch that

The book on him coming out of Utah is he catches everything apparently not. 

[Comebackkid]

33 minutes ago, Thurman#1 said:

 

 

Elite, not many. But how many elite games does any team have when you give only a small playoff sample. Was the Chiefs D elite yesterday?

 

Good to very good? Pretty much all of them except the Chiefs games and that Bengals game.

 

As for elite ... the Pats game in the 2021 playoffs. It was 33-3 late in the third quarter. The Pats had scored 10 points till they scored another in garbage time after the two minute warning which made the score 47 - 17. Micah Hyde had that insane interception early.

 

That and the 17 - 3 victory against the Ravens where Taron Johnson had the 103 yard pick six.

 

 

one thing about the chiefs D... more times than not at the biggest times it shows up.   yes...there was the pats game but, who was the qb?   def no one elite..or maybe even avg.     The Bills D has always been oportunistic.  just not very good at basic fundamentals...especially when it matters most. 

again take the ravens...we were behind..(not much)  and then the pick 6...theres that oportunistic D but then Jackson got knocked out of the game.  

 

even the miami game in the playoffs with thompson?   we barely eeked out a win.  

 

im not nearly as negative as some but, in the most important games the D more times than not falls on its face, and its when it matters most when the

game is on the line. 

[Goin Breakdown]

49 minutes ago, VW82 said:

 

...Kincaid diving for the 1st on 3rd down and getting a terrible spot. Kincaid not coming up with the ball several times. KC with mutliple guys lining up in the neurtral zone, no call. Josh giving everyone jitters, teammates and coaches included, when he throws two dropped picks on the first possession. Running tush push over and over and not gettng it..very little from McD again outside of a couple successful pressures 2nd half... 

 

Chiefs are better but we need to win next year. F em.

I agree. McD sure has a process and he trusts it so much he will not deviate much. It shocked the sports world when we played Baltimore different. Did McD use his creative load on that game. Did he buy into the hype that KC is "struggling offensively"?  

[RunTheBall]

How the HELL does Brady come out throwing the ball on the first couple drives? What the hell was he thinking? That’s outright coaching malpractice not to line up and start pummeling them with our O-line from the first snap.

 

You know what would have helped Josh besides running the ball early? A couple dink and dunk throws just to get the jitters out and start to get him in rhythm. 

 

Brady absolutely sht the bed in the first half. Spags ran circles around him for the majority of the game. We have an offense that finally didn’t need Josh to be perfect to succeed and what does Brady do? Put him in a position where he needs to be perfect to succeed. Completely asinine play calling throughout the game but especially first half. Spags DEMOLISHED Brady. They were ready for everything and it was only Josh making some ridiculous tight window throws that kept us in the game.

 

I’m livid that the coaching disparity was so apparent. It wasn’t even close. Reid and Spags took us to the woodshed like they do every post season.

Edited Tuesday at 03:27 AM by RunTheBall

[BUFFALOTONE]

Was Hollins in a better position to catch that ball or is it just me.