Josh Allen complaints

[Einstein]

16 minutes ago, Allen2Moulds said:

He started off erratic, almost like we were watching a diff QB, but settled in just before the half.  I think we got grossly outcoached on both sides of the ball, but there is also a personal deficiency.  

 

I’m starting to think that people either don’t have eyes, or have no idea what they’re actually watching.

 

Allen was 68% with almost 300 yards and two touchdowns and zero turnovers after the first drive. 

 

he played great. Did he play like the best game of his entire career? No. But he played great.

 

Both of his touchdowns were absolutely insane throws. The fourth down heave to Kincaid would go down as one of the greatest plays in playoff history, with a statue of Allen chucking that, if Kincaid could catch the freaking ball.  

 

I’m not even going to bother arguing with anyone who thinks they or did not have a great day. As far as I’m concerned, they have no idea what they’re talking about.

 

[biggerdaddynj]

15 minutes ago, BillMafia716ix said:

I Love Josh. I just want him to beat Mahomes when it counts. The past two years Josh has had the ball in his hands on final drive to win the game and he hasn’t come through. That’s the only complaint I have about him. 

Play calling had a major impact.  

[HappyDays]

10 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said:

Protection break downs are typically on the QB. That was a protection break down that never happens to the Bills. It happened in the biggest moment of the game.

 

Not on the QB. Spags is the best defensive coach in the NFL.

 

I mean there's no accounting for that. You're basically just guessing.

[Buffalo_Stampede]

2 minutes ago, HappyDays said:

 

Not on the QB. Spags is the best defensive coach in the NFL.

 

I mean there's no accounting for that. You're basically just guessing.

No, they were guessing. You don’t guess on 4th down.

 

This is why we lose these games. The small details.

Edited Monday at 07:35 PM by Buffalo_Stampede

[US Egg]

5 minutes ago, ExiledInIllinois said:

Bills should have never been in that position.  They should have been up at least a score at the time.  They should have never fumbled, ooops I mean refs bad spot, to open the 4th Quarter. 

Is unfairly turning ball over a "blink?"

How often can you cry “Ref” before no one listens?

[Einstein]

Just now, HappyDays said:

 

Not on the QB. Spags is the best defensive coach in the NFL.

 

I mean there's no accounting for that. You're basically just guessing.

 

Spags is all time great coach.

 

He will set you up all game seeing one thing JUST so he can send the opposite at the key moment.

 

And he knew our plays inside and out, left, right, backwards and forward. Even the plays that worked, he had players in position who just didn’t make the play.

 

Certainly doesn’t help that Brady was predictable. Running the same 4th down beater we have all year. 

 

I wish we sent more pressure, like Spags did. The few times we did, it worked. I can only think of one play where Mahomes got it off when we sent pressure.

 

 

[Buddy Hix]

I’d still take a bullet for JA

[Einstein]

Just now, Buffalo_Stampede said:

No, they were guessing. You don’t guess on 4th down.

 

 

Earth to Buffalo_Stampede … guessing is all you can do.

 

They don’t tell us what they’re going to run before the snap.

 

You make the best educated guess you can. That’s what every team in NFL history does. 

 

The true problem on that play is that Torrence blocked NOBODY. If Torrence just blocked 1 person, Allen can evade the other free rusher. But he can’t evade two.

[ExiledInIllinois]

6 minutes ago, US Egg said:

How often can you cry “Ref” before no one listens?

Why do you victim shame?

 

All the time.  It was really obvious yesterday.  Why do Bills have to play twice as perfect?

 

Don't worry... Victim blaming is most likely programmed in our minds deep... 

 

https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/supersurvivors/201803/why-do-people-blame-the-victim

 

Edited Monday at 07:41 PM by ExiledInIllinois

[Niagara Dude]

28 minutes ago, Toledo Bill said:

As I read complaints about Allen's performance, I understand he did not play his best and everyone, of course has their right to opinions. "He choked", "he missed this, he missed that", etc. I understand and empathize with the frustration. 
i have been a Bills fan since their inception and he is the most athletically gifted quarterback I have ever seen in the NFL.

I appreciate him as an athlete and as a person. My only point... complain and criticize him if you will, but once in a while take a breath and be thankful for the talent and heart we are witnessing from this generational person. He has brought so much joy and excitement to the organization and community. Critique all you want but appreciate what we have... where would this team be without him?

Go Bills!

Did not play his best game but this team is hot garbage without Allen,  outside of Allen and maybe Cook we really have no other elite players on this team.  Beanne has stacked this team with undersized and average speed or slow players.  

[HappyDays]

3 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said:

No, they were guessing. You don’t guess on 4th down.

 

I wish the play call had featured a hot route. You have to know Spags is likely to blitz on 4th down even if you don't know from where.

 

But most of all I just wish Kincaid had tracked the lob pass and made the easy catch. Oh well.

[PBF81]

28 minutes ago, Allen2Moulds said:

He started off erratic, almost like we were watching a diff QB, but settled in just before the half.  I think we got grossly outcoached on both sides of the ball, but there is also a personal deficiency.  

 

The entire team started off eratic.  Seems as if we came in unprepared.  

 

 

[Pete]

29 minutes ago, 78thealltimegreat said:

He was amped up and his ball was sailing but let’s face it this isn’t his fault and no other QB on the planet could even get this throw off 

 

It has been discussed how Kincaid low catch percentage is Dalton being in wrong spot.  I believe this to be the case on this play.  KC is playing zone.  Dalton should have found soft spot, and stopped.  Josh threw the ball where Dalton was supposed to be.  That’s my conjecture.  Dalton, once again, makes a catch more difficult than it has to be.

 

man to man- you run complete route

zone- you find soft spots, and sit.

Edited Monday at 07:46 PM by Pete

[US Egg]

3 minutes ago, ExiledInIllinois said:

Why do you victim shame?

 

All the time.  It was really obvious yesterday.  Why do Bills have to play twice as perfect?

Do not despair, you got lots of friends in here. 

[JP51]

4 minutes ago, HappyDays said:

 

I wish the play call had featured a hot route. You have to know Spags is likely to blitz on 4th down even if you don't know from where.

 

But most of all I just wish Kincaid had tracked the lob pass and made the easy catch. Oh well.

I agree here, you gotta know that on fourth and game that you have to have contingencies... we were badly out coached and Brady was pretty bad imo. 

[US Egg]

10 minutes ago, Buddy Hix said:

I’d still take a bullet for JA

I’d take two.

[ExiledInIllinois]

Just now, US Egg said:

Do not despair, you got lots of friends in here. 

Actually... If you read the article that's what it comes to!

 

I we don't victim blame, the world is a scary dark, dangerous place... It's kinda why we do.

 

BUT I know that's not true.   The world is safe, even if I refuse to use the defense mechanism of blaming the victim.

 

We were definitely treated unfairly yesterday.  It cost us the game.  It's OK.  We are used to that... BUT at least admit that the Bills had to play 2 times,  3 times better than your normal champion.  Why is that so?

 

 

[GreenMtnBillsFan]

1 minute ago, Einstein said:

 

Spags is all time great coach.

 

He will set you up all game seeing one thing JUST so he can send the opposite at the key moment.

 

And he knew our plays inside and out, left, right, backwards and forward. Even the plays that worked, he had players in position who just didn’t make the play.

 

Certainly doesn’t help that Brady was predictable. Running the same 4th down beater we have all year. 

 

I wish we sent more pressure, like Spags did. The few times we did, it worked. I can only think of one play where Mahomes got it off when we sent pressure.

 

 

I'm jealous of their pressure schemes too. They were just relentless last night and it felt like Josh could never settle in for more than a few plays in a row. 

That's probably the hardest part of processing this season's exit from the playoffs. Yes, we are certainly lacking in areas like DL, WR, CB and there were plenty of tough moments where we didn't execute when we needed to (stems from coaching), but at the end of the day, what can you do when the Chiefs outcoach and execute on basically every level? Mahomes didn't even need to play amazing, players were schemed open all day, Spags always had an answer in the key moments on defense, and different guys made plays all over the field. 

It's not even realistic to expect a team to play perfect in all phases, there's plenty of super bowl teams who haven't played perfectly, it's just horrible luck that the Bills rise has been right alongside the Chiefs, who have a HOF coaching staff and talent all over the field. It's also on the coaching staff and players to start executing in the biggest moments (fully acknowledge and agree with that) 

Just crazy that people have the audacity to act like our best player is a choke artist because he didn't play a perfect game. We wouldn't even be in the position we are without Josh and him not checking into the right protection scheme because the opposing DC was playing 4D chess doesn't make me feel any differently about him in clutch moments. 

[nedboy7]

The team came out anxious.  You could see it on McD's face and Josh's play.  It was sad to watch.  I think some criticism needs to go towards Josh as well.  Since without him we would be irrelevant, I know it is hard thing to discuss.  Other things that need to be criticized are the refs, the play calling and lack of talent at certain spots.  I have no doubt we will be back next year. 

[Billz4ever]

17 minutes ago, HappyDays said:

 

Not on the QB. Spags is the best defensive coach in the NFL.

 

I mean there's no accounting for that. You're basically just guessing.

 

And the crazy part is Josh still had it beat even though it was the perfect blitz call and got instant pressure.  At some point, someone other than Josh needs to make the clutch play for us.