UKBillFan Posted Monday at 06:01 PM Posted Monday at 06:01 PM 1 minute ago, 90sBills said: Yes, I do. At least in the beginning of games. That’s who Allen is. He gets himself too hyped up in big games. It takes him a little to settle down. Whereas Mahomes is ready to go in big games from the get go. That’s not coaching or anything external. It’s their personality. One has his emotions under control at all times and the other not so much. Reid eased Mahomes into the game with easy passes and a run game. Where was it with Josh? I can only think Cook had an injury issue, the lack of use last night. He was toasting them when he had the chance. Quote
Mark Vader Posted Monday at 06:02 PM Posted Monday at 06:02 PM 58 minutes ago, GerstAusGosheim said: Sean trading the Mahomes pick to Andy will go down as the worst trade in NFL history if it isn’t already. Herschel Walker says hello. Quote
90sBills Posted Monday at 06:24 PM Posted Monday at 06:24 PM 16 minutes ago, UKBillFan said: Reid eased Mahomes into the game with easy passes and a run game. Where was it with Josh? I can only think Cook had an injury issue, the lack of use last night. He was toasting them when he had the chance. These two guys have been starting for 7 years. They’ve been in multiple big games. They don’t need to be eased into games. Allen starts the game throwing to KC defenders. All because of jitters. That’s just how he’s wired. When he really wants a game his emotions sometimes get the best of him. The Houston game is year was the same way. Quote
UKBillFan Posted Monday at 06:27 PM Posted Monday at 06:27 PM 1 minute ago, 90sBills said: These two guys have been starting for 7 years. They’ve been in multiple big games. They don’t need to be eased into games. Allen starts the game throwing to KC defenders. All because of jitters. That’s just how he’s wired. When he really wants a game his emotions sometimes get the best of him. The Houston game is year was the same way. Houston because of Diggs. Yesterday because of the prize. From the second drive onwards he had settled but a lack of run game in the first half is a concern nonetheless. 1 Quote
KentuckyBillsFan Posted Monday at 06:28 PM Posted Monday at 06:28 PM Mahomes isn't the Mahomes we know now if he comes here... KC is a dramatically superior organization. Not sure we could even win a SB with Mahomes. Quote
Goin Breakdown Posted Monday at 06:30 PM Posted Monday at 06:30 PM Mahomes with this team is no different than Josh with this team and by team I'm including coaching staff and FO. Quote
transient Posted Monday at 07:03 PM Posted Monday at 07:03 PM 1 hour ago, BullBuchanan said: When is this going to stop? It's patently false. Mahomes outplayed Allen AGAIN yesterday,a nd he looked cool as a cucumber doing it. The game has never been too big for him - not once. Mahomes is in a tier of 1 right now and in a tier of 2 all-time. It's him and Brady - that's it. Mahomes outplayed our defense yesterday... again. Do you think he would have looked as cool as a cucumber going against KC's defense? Or that Allen would have had difficulty facing that McDermott/Babich defense? Allen had the tougher task yesterday, hands down. 1 Quote
transient Posted Monday at 07:09 PM Posted Monday at 07:09 PM 1 hour ago, 90sBills said: Yes, I do. At least in the beginning of games. That’s who Allen is. He gets himself too hyped up in big games. It takes him a little to settle down. Whereas Mahomes is ready to go in big games from the get go. That’s not coaching or anything external. It’s their personality. One has his emotions under control at all times and the other not so much. At this point, realizing the only way his team is going to win the game is if he plays nearly flawless probably has something to do with that. Quote
US Egg Posted Monday at 07:16 PM Posted Monday at 07:16 PM 2 hours ago, TheBrownBear said: Getting to Curse of the Bambino levels. At least Babe won the Red Sox a WS before he wanted out…..(double ouch?) Quote
Pete Posted Monday at 07:16 PM Posted Monday at 07:16 PM We got Josh ***** Allen so it worked out ok for us 1 1 Quote
BullBuchanan Posted Monday at 07:18 PM Posted Monday at 07:18 PM 7 minutes ago, transient said: At this point, realizing the only way his team is going to win the game is if he plays nearly flawless probably has something to do with that. That's the formula for most teams who want to win a ring, and it's what Mahomes does every playoffs. You want to beat the best, you have to be the best. Quote
Dr.Mantis_Toboggan Posted Monday at 07:21 PM Posted Monday at 07:21 PM (edited) Did we give them Andy Reid too, because THAT is the difference not Mahoverated Point being you put Patrat on the Bills, and Josh on the Chiefs, I guarantee the results are the same. Edited Monday at 07:22 PM by Dr.Mantis_Toboggan Quote
LifeLongBillsFan Posted Monday at 07:23 PM Posted Monday at 07:23 PM 2 hours ago, Steptide said: I mean, on top of losing seemingly every year to kc in the playoffs, the bills gave kc the pick to get Mahomes. Granted, who knew he'd become what he has, but what a kick in the groin. I am not saying we should've taken Mahomes, I love Josh, but man what may have been had we not traded that pick. And the the bills did the same thing with worthy this past year. Not that worthy was really anything great this season, but him having over 100 yards and a td last night is another kick in the groin. Happy Monday everyone! I'm still pissed yep single most colossal fail McDemott is a loser 6 minutes ago, Pete said: We got Josh ***** Allen so it worked out ok for us Josh has yet to win a single big game - nice kid but not a winner 1 Quote
transient Posted Monday at 07:33 PM Posted Monday at 07:33 PM 13 minutes ago, BullBuchanan said: That's the formula for most teams who want to win a ring, and it's what Mahomes does every playoffs. You want to beat the best, you have to be the best. Yeah, that was flawless execution on the fumble last night. He has the benefit of a defense that can cover for any few mistakes he might make AND that can close a game, we don't. 1 Quote
GerstAusGosheim Posted Monday at 07:34 PM Posted Monday at 07:34 PM 1 hour ago, Mark Vader said: Herschel Walker says hello. Agree, that was the old standard. Once considered unbeatable. 3-0 in Super Bowls for Cowboys. 3-1 for Chiefs. On their way to 5th Super Bowl in 7 years and QB is still under 30. Quote
C.Biscuit97 Posted Monday at 07:36 PM Posted Monday at 07:36 PM Never forget this gem. This is all our fault (well not mine). 1 hour ago, KentuckyBillsFan said: Mahomes isn't the Mahomes we know now if he comes here... KC is a dramatically superior organization. Not sure we could even win a SB with Mahomes. Wrong. Maybe the coach who traded up for him knew he was great. It’s hilarious how fans try to take away from his greatness. His college numbers were insane. Reid saw that talent and moved up to select him when he a solid nfl starter already. Allen was way rawer than Mahomes and he got drafted by a playoff team. He got the same OC for 4 years and we made a lot of moves to help him develop. The Bills have been a great organization since McBeane took over and some fans act like we are the Raiders. It couldn’t be more wrong. 1 Quote
BullBuchanan Posted Monday at 07:42 PM Posted Monday at 07:42 PM 8 minutes ago, transient said: Yeah, that was flawless execution on the fumble last night. He has the benefit of a defense that can cover for any few mistakes he might make AND that can close a game, we don't. Just more excuses. That'll get ya a ring I'm sure. Quote
90sBills Posted Monday at 07:45 PM Posted Monday at 07:45 PM 33 minutes ago, transient said: At this point, realizing the only way his team is going to win the game is if he plays nearly flawless probably has something to do with that. Agreed. That’s the point. Realizing that and letting it affects your play is something he hasn’t learned to fully control. 4 minutes ago, BullBuchanan said: Just more excuses. That'll get ya a ring I'm sure. Some fans just don’t want to see it. There’s a reason we’re 0-4 against KC in the playoffs. Quote
Niagara Dude Posted Monday at 07:53 PM Posted Monday at 07:53 PM 2 hours ago, Steptide said: I mean, on top of losing seemingly every year to kc in the playoffs, the bills gave kc the pick to get Mahomes. Granted, who knew he'd become what he has, but what a kick in the groin. I am not saying we should've taken Mahomes, I love Josh, but man what may have been had we not traded that pick. And the the bills did the same thing with worthy this past year. Not that worthy was really anything great this season, but him having over 100 yards and a td last night is another kick in the groin. Happy Monday everyone! I'm still pissed Football is a team game. Mahomes is a great great QB but if Mahomes and Allen switched teams, the Chiefs would still be going to the Superbowl and the Bills would still have lost. They have way better talent including handful of elite player along with a great offensive mind in Reid and great defensive playoff assistant. Allen deserves better, you can look at dropped pass by Kincaid, dropped pass last year by Diggs or biggest playoff collapse in 13 secs Most great HC's do not continue to run same tush push play on 4th down when the other team is stopping, they try something different Quote
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