Maxx Crosby

[HurlyBurly51]

I came here for some Maxx Crosby talk.  Guess I'll check back later😅

[GaryPinC]

At a minimum Beane should bring in some scouts better at picking D-line

[BillsFan130]

36 minutes ago, JGMcD2 said:

Copy and paste from another thread because it’s just clowns regurgitating the same *****, so maybe I should too:

 

PRO BOWL?! You're seriously citing the PRO BOWL? Russell Wilson was named to the Pro Bowl this year - what a credible way to evaluate his performance. 

 

You're flat-out wrong about Buffalo. I can name players too! CB Taron Johnson—All-Pro—taken in the 4th round in 2019. "D captain Nick Bolton"? How about D captain Terrel Bernard, whom Buffalo found in the 3rd round in 2022. Spencer Brown (3rd round), James Cook (2nd round) and Christian Benford (6th round). Should I continue? Because I can.

 

Now, let's not even start on Trey Smith. He was a consensus top-3 round talent, but teams took him off their boards due to medical concerns. Want to tell me how medical evaluations work in pro sports? Be my guest—I promise one of us actually knows, and the other doesn’t.

 

You want to call Greg Rousseau a reach at 30? Cool. What a wild way to evaluate someone who was a top-10 edge rusher in 2024. Speaking of "reaches," how’s Kingsley Suamataia doing? Didn’t he get benched for three different LT options? What’s Felix Anudike-Uzomah up to? His first two seasons are worse than Boogie Basham’s. But go ahead, hype up drafting Skyy Moore and Clyde Edwards-Helaire while you're at it. 
 

Fans like me can think rationally instead of spinning narratives to cope with not being Kansas City. Newsflash: I want to win too. I actually agree—good is the enemy of great. But that’s not the issue here. The real conversation? All-Time is the enemy of great. That’s the part you just can’t comprehend.

In my opinion by far the biggest difference between the bills and chiefs is Chris Jones. (Outside of coaching)

 

You put Chris Jones on the Bills and ed oliver on the chiefs this past game, and the Bills probably win

 

And tying it back to the thread now- This is why the Bills got to do what it takes to get a Maxx crosby or Hendrickson

Edited 2 hours ago by BillsFan130

[78thealltimegreat]

Maxx Crosby was meant to play in Buffalo… If the Raiders are doing a full rebuild you ask them and they say what they want and then you say ok. 

[FireChans]

1 hour ago, JGMcD2 said:

Copy and paste from another thread because it’s just clowns regurgitating the same *****, so maybe I should too:

 

PRO BOWL?! You're seriously citing the PRO BOWL? Russell Wilson was named to the Pro Bowl this year - what a credible way to evaluate his performance. 

 

You're flat-out wrong about Buffalo. I can name players too! CB Taron Johnson—All-Pro—taken in the 4th round in 2019. "D captain Nick Bolton"? How about D captain Terrel Bernard, whom Buffalo found in the 3rd round in 2022. Spencer Brown (3rd round), James Cook (2nd round) and Christian Benford (6th round). Should I continue? Because I can.

 

Now, let's not even start on Trey Smith. He was a consensus top-3 round talent, but teams took him off their boards due to medical concerns. Want to tell me how medical evaluations work in pro sports? Be my guest—I promise one of us actually knows, and the other doesn’t.

 

You want to call Greg Rousseau a reach at 30? Cool. What a wild way to evaluate someone who was a top-10 edge rusher in 2024. Speaking of "reaches," how’s Kingsley Suamataia doing? Didn’t he get benched for three different LT options? What’s Felix Anudike-Uzomah up to? His first two seasons are worse than Boogie Basham’s. But go ahead, hype up drafting Skyy Moore and Clyde Edwards-Helaire while you're at it. 
 

Fans like me can think rationally instead of spinning narratives to cope with not being Kansas City. Newsflash: I want to win too. I actually agree—good is the enemy of great. But that’s not the issue here. The real conversation? All-Time is the enemy of great. That’s the part you just can’t comprehend.

Is ProBowl accounted for in AV assessment?

 

Sounds like your AV methodology is cooked.

[Buffalo716]

25 minutes ago, GaryPinC said:

At a minimum Beane should bring in some scouts better at picking D-line

It really doesn't work like that.. they don't have that many that they could just have guys looking at D line

 

They have a few blesto scouts watching underclassmen 

 

They have like 3 area scouts... A few other college scouts and a director of college scouting 

 

And that's a big NFL group 

 

 

[Mark Vader]

1 hour ago, jaybeezee said:

 

OK stat man. Here is your boy Beanes draft class since 2019. I list them all, but I want you to tell which defensive players hes picked in the first 3 rounds that are really good. I wont even add the 2024 draft here.

 

2019 Draft

 

 

2019 Class: DT Ed Oliver (No. 9 overall)= Just OK

OT Cody Ford (No. 38 overall) = Not on team/JAG

RB Devin Singletary (No. 74 overall)=  Not an Team/JAG

TE Dawson Knox (No. 96 overall) = Severely overpaid JAG

LB Vosean Joseph = Not even in the league I dont think

 

2020 Draft

2nd Round, No. 54 overall | A.J. Epenesa, DE, Iowa. ... = JAG

3rd Round, No. 86 overall | Zack Moss, RB, Utah. ...= Not on team/JAG

4th Round, No. 128 overall | Gabriel Davis, WR, UCF. ...Not on Team/JAG

5th Round, No. 167 overall | Jake Fromm, QB, Georgia. ... = Cant even get on a State Farm Commercial

 

2021 Draft

 

261Carlos Basham Jr. = LOL/Giants PS

393Spencer Brown = Good Pick

5161Tommy Doyle = LOL

6203Marquez Stevenson = LOL/Not in the league

 

2022 Draft

 

1Kaiir Elam= LOL

2James Cook= Good Pick

3Terrel Bernard = TBD on him, Slow and little

5Khalil Shakir = Good Pick 

6Matt Araiza= Hardly punted against us

6Christian Benford = Good pick for draft pick #

 

2023 Draft

 

1Dalton Kincaid= Jury is still out. Had great first season due to Diggs drawing all the attention.

2O'Cyrus Torrence = Good Pick

3Dorian Williams= TBD, prove that he is good or really good

5Justin Shorter= Hasnt seen the field

7Nick Broeker= Who??

7Alex Austin = Who??

Your takes are poorly thought out.

[jaybeezee]

8 minutes ago, Mark Vader said:

Your takes are poorly thought out.

So are yours. Your a man of many words. 

[KOKBILLS]

On 1/27/2025 at 11:00 AM, KentuckyBillsFan said:

I have no faith that if he does come here he won't be a letdown like our defensive line is every season. There is a system problem with that unit IMO

 

There is a system problem with the entire system.

40 minutes ago, 78thealltimegreat said:

Maxx Crosby was meant to play in Buffalo… If the Raiders are doing a full rebuild you ask them and they say what they want and then you say ok. 

 

Agreed...

 

It don't hurt to ask... And yes, Maxx would be awesome in Buffalo... 

[Mark Vader]

22 minutes ago, jaybeezee said:

So are yours. Your a man of many words. 

You never took into account at what those players that are no longer with us did while they were here.

[jaybeezee]

7 minutes ago, Mark Vader said:

You never took into account at what those players that are no longer with us did while they were here.

Lol... there's quite a few that are still on the team, but please be my guest and enlighten me

[Mark Vader]

2 minutes ago, jaybeezee said:

Lol... there's quite a few that are still on the team, but please be my guest and enlighten me

Ed Oliver is a good player.

 

Devin Singletary was on the team for 4 seasons, he's no longer with us because we weren't going to pay him big money. He was a good RB for us.

 

Dawson Knox is overpaid, but is hardly a JAG. 

 

Gabriel Davis had an early impact on the team, but faded because he wasn't the type of player that we could use long term.

 

Tommy Doyle has had injuries, but has played well when called upon. May never be a starter, but is good for depth.

 

Terrel Bernard is slow and short, but produces. A lot better than who we had at MLB prior to.

[DCofNC]

3 hours ago, Big Turk said:

 

If you think the Pro-Bowl is a justifiable way at determining how good a player is, then I am not sure why you are even bothering watching the game.  Might as well go watch something like checkers or tiddlywinks.

That argument works when guys that clearly don’t deserve it are making it, but being that it’s a joke of a system and basically anyone with a heartbeat makes it, it’s pretty telling when not one of your picks has made it.

[jaybeezee]

5 minutes ago, Mark Vader said:

Ed Oliver is a good player.

 

Devin Singletary was on the team for 4 seasons, he's no longer with us because we weren't going to pay him big money. He was a good RB for us.

 

Dawson Knox is overpaid, but is hardly a JAG. 

 

Gabriel Davis had an early impact on the team, but faded because he wasn't the type of player that we could use long term.

 

Tommy Doyle has had injuries, but has played well when called upon. May never be a starter, but is good for depth.

 

Terrel Bernard is slow and short, but produces. A lot better than who we had at MLB prior to.

Buddy... I dont wanna argue with you. I respect your opinion. If you read my post, I specified defensive players that Beane drafts.

 

 I hope I'm wrong and where not here talking about BBB and the same exact thing that we have for the last 4 years at least. 

Just now, jaybeezee said:

Buddy... I dont wanna argue with you. I respect your opinion. If you read my post, I specified defensive players that Beane drafts.

 

 I hope I'm wrong and where not here talking about BBB and the same exact thing that we have for the last 4 years at least. 

And Knox is not and has not shown that he is good or remotely close to what we pay him.

[DCofNC]

8 minutes ago, Mark Vader said:

Ed Oliver is a good player.

 

Devin Singletary was on the team for 4 seasons, he's no longer with us because we weren't going to pay him big money. He was a good RB for us.

 

Dawson Knox is overpaid, but is hardly a JAG. 

 

Gabriel Davis had an early impact on the team, but faded because he wasn't the type of player that we could use long term.

 

Tommy Doyle has had injuries, but has played well when called upon. May never be a starter, but is good for depth.

 

Terrel Bernard is slow and short, but produces. A lot better than who we had at MLB prior to.

 

You post says it all, you have one “good” player.  
 

Then Singletary wasn’t worth paying 2.5M for, so clearly wasn’t very good, the guy who was supposed to take his place also walk and both were paid less than the 3rd RB Beane brought in as a return specialist.  
 

Knox is over paid.

 

Gabe Davis … meh not a bad 4th round pick if we are all being real honest, good #3/4 WR, just not the #1/2 they tried to make him.

 

Doyle can’t get on the field 

 

Bernard is ok.

 

 

So there’s the issue, a bunch of over paid and over drafted for the production you get.  If Oliver was a 3rd round pick, that would be pretty good, a solid starter that makes a handful of flash plays a year.  Unfortunately, he’s a top 10 pick on a rather rich contract.  The RBs represent 4 day 2 picks to get one guy who’s better than replacement level.  Knox is overpaid in your own words, Davis isn’t here, Doyle is a nobody and Bernard is “better than we had”, when the last guy got cut mid season by the Seahawks, that’s not exactly a ringing endorsement.

 

Where are the guys that are actually difference makers?  They don’t really exist outside of Allen and Cook.  In the same time frame, KC has rebuilt their team 2x and is about to win 3 SBs in a row, or at very least 2 of the last 3 with a chance to win this one.  Philly has also built through the draft and is back to the SB, so the whole “drafting too late in the draft” excuse just doesn’t work.

[3rdand12]

1 hour ago, KOKBILLS said:

 

There is a system problem with the entire system.

 

Agreed...

 

It don't hurt to ask... And yes, Maxx would be awesome in Buffalo... 

 

[LABILLBACKER]

On 1/27/2025 at 8:20 AM, Yobogoya! said:

Pretty sure McD has only gotten a single 10 sack season out of just one player— Leonard Floyd last year. 
 

Scheme and design must have at least a little something to do with that. That and his trademark “rotation” for maximum “freshness”. 

Another stupid strategy...let's rotate a bunch of Jags so the Jags stay fresh.  Did he learn this crap in Carolina?

[KOKBILLS]

3 minutes ago, LABILLBACKER said:

Another stupid strategy...let's rotate a bunch of Jags so the Jags stay fresh.  Did he learn this crap in Carolina?

 

He actually had better D-Linemen in Carolina...