Maxx Crosby

[K D]

James Cook plus #30 overall. I doubt they want to give Cook a big contract. If they wanted to do that they could have signed Barkley

[BuffaloBillsGospel2014]

If I'm spending that kind of draft capital (I'm hearing it would cost a 1st this year, next year and 1-2nd round pick in either year) then Myles garrett would be my pick by a country mile. He hasn't had less than 10 sacks since his rookie year and doesn't appear to be slowing down at all plus he's signed for 2 more years with a cap hit of 19.7M this coming season and 20.3M the following which is very manageable imo and if he doesn't pan out we don't have several years like the Miller deal to be irate about it. He's the player I'm going all in for since he's also stellar against the run.

[Sojourner]

10 minutes ago, BuffaloBillsGospel2014 said:

If I'm spending that kind of draft capital (I'm hearing it would cost a 1st this year, next year and 1-2nd round pick in either year) then Myles garrett would be my pick by a country mile. He hasn't had less than 10 sacks since his rookie year and doesn't appear to be slowing down at all plus he's signed for 2 more years with a cap hit of 19.7M this coming season and 20.3M the following which is very manageable imo and if he doesn't pan out we don't have several years like the Miller deal to be irate about it. He's the player I'm going all in for since he's also stellar against the run.

 With the fact he’s getting another DPOY I’d bet that asking price might even be more. 

[Kelly to Allen]

8 minutes ago, Sojourner said:

 With the fact he’s getting another DPOY I’d bet that asking price might even be more. 

 

Bill polian gave up two 1sts, a 2nd and Greg Bell for Cornelius Bennett....

Edited Saturday at 06:55 PM by Kelly to Allen

[Saint Doug]

4 minutes ago, Kelly to Allen said:

 

Bill polian gave up two 1sts, a 2nd and Greg Bell for Cornelius Bennett....

Probably was a much different era. Back then, draft picks really were supposed to develop on the bench, some for as long as over 3-4 years. In the salary cap era, many draft picks are expected to start on day 1. Draft picks are viewed with much more value now than then. 

[Sojourner]

4 minutes ago, Kelly to Allen said:

 

Bill polian gave up two 1sts, a 2nd and Greg Bell for Cornelius Bennett....

And that trade worked out wonders. I just don’t think Cleveland ever become willing to trade him unless he forces himself out or has a serious injury. They have said on numerous occasions he isn’t for trade and their GM just reiterated that a few days ago by saying they’re trying to get an extension done that essentially will have him retire as a Brown.  
 

Piggy back off that, Myles said many times last year the team isn’t that far off from being a contender and that he felt the year was just unlucky in terms of injuries that took place to the QBs and Chubb. 
 

Id love him, he has stretches of absolute dominance. When he’s not dominating he’s still great. 

Maxx is just as good. The next best get. 

[LabattBlue]

32 minutes ago, BuffaloBillsGospel2014 said:

If I'm spending that kind of draft capital (I'm hearing it would cost a 1st this year, next year and 1-2nd round pick in either year) then Myles garrett would be my pick by a country mile. He hasn't had less than 10 sacks since his rookie year and doesn't appear to be slowing down at all plus he's signed for 2 more years with a cap hit of 19.7M this coming season and 20.3M the following which is very manageable imo and if he doesn't pan out we don't have several years like the Miller deal to be irate about it. He's the player I'm going all in for since he's also stellar against the run.

What does “I’m hearing…” mean?  Unless you are talking to the Raiders or Browns GM, it doesn’t mean squat.  

[BuffaloBillsGospel2014]

2 minutes ago, LabattBlue said:

What does “I’m hearing…” mean?  Unless you are talking to the Raiders or Browns GM, it doesn’t mean squat.  

 

The typical rumors that come out on all platforms... Since I have no direct talks with the Browns or Raiders GM that's pretty much what any of us can go off of even the guys like Schefter/Rappaport. Like anything where there is smoke there is fire and if you want a premiere edge rusher I don't think those rumors are far off at all again imo.

Edited Saturday at 07:12 PM by BuffaloBillsGospel2014

[Augie]

20 minutes ago, Kelly to Allen said:

 

Bill polian gave up two 1sts, a 2nd and Greg Bell for Cornelius Bennett....

 

It’s hard to believe that he wasn’t immediately run over by a bus. I mean, that feels like us, right? 

[LabattBlue]

10 minutes ago, BuffaloBillsGospel2014 said:

 

The typical rumors that come out on all platforms... Since I have no direct talks with the Browns or Raiders GM that's pretty much what any of us can go off of even the guys like Schefter/Rappaport. Like anything where there is smoke there is fire and if you want a premiere edge rusher I don't think those rumors are far off at all again imo.

Keep in mind that “rumors” of the asking price can mean way different things, as a #1 for a team picking in the middle of a round is nowhere near the Bills…where their #1 picks are usually closer to an early 2nd rounder. 

[Kelly to Allen]

23 minutes ago, Sojourner said:

And that trade worked out wonders. I just don’t think Cleveland ever become willing to trade him unless he forces himself out or has a serious injury. They have said on numerous occasions he isn’t for trade and their GM just reiterated that a few days ago by saying they’re trying to get an extension done that essentially will have him retire as a Brown.  
 

Piggy back off that, Myles said many times last year the team isn’t that far off from being a contender and that he felt the year was just unlucky in terms of injuries that took place to the QBs and Chubb. 
 

Id love him, he has stretches of absolute dominance. When he’s not dominating he’s still great. 

Maxx is just as good. The next best get. 

 

What about Micah Parsons?

12 minutes ago, Augie said:

 

It’s hard to believe that he wasn’t immediately run over by a bus. I mean, that feels like us, right? 

😂😂😂

[Sojourner]

1 minute ago, Kelly to Allen said:

 

What about Micah Parsons?

😂😂😂

Parsons is a player I could get behind if you can’t get Crosby/Garrett. Cowboys defense would be even worse without him, falling apart territory. 

[JGMcD2]

4 hours ago, FireChans said:

I think I just did. Now when you do the 2025 annual wAV analysis you can add a disclaimer about how the ProBowl is simultaneously a complete joke and also an integral part of your formula.

It’s impressive how much pride you take in being willfully ignorant.

 

The Pro Bowl is part of the formula, not the sole component. Much different than you and others who use Pro Bowl nods (or the lack thereof) as the sole measure of a player's worth.

[BuffaloBillsGospel2014]

9 minutes ago, LabattBlue said:

Keep in mind that “rumors” of the asking price can mean way different things, as a #1 for a team picking in the middle of a round is nowhere near the Bills…where their #1 picks are usually closer to an early 2nd rounder. 

Many of these that I read or heard were not Bills specific so it was more in general which would lead me to believe like you said the Bills would maybe have to add more.

[FireChans]

49 minutes ago, JGMcD2 said:

It’s impressive how much pride you take in being willfully ignorant.

 

The Pro Bowl is part of the formula, not the sole component. Much different than you and others who use Pro Bowl nods (or the lack thereof) as the sole measure of a player's worth.

Russell Wilson was a ProBowler in 2024

 

do you think that should appreciably add value to the Seahawks picking him in 2012?

 

I’ll hang up and listen.

[JGMcD2]

1 hour ago, FireChans said:

Russell Wilson was a ProBowler in 2024

 

do you think that should appreciably add value to the Seahawks picking him in 2012?

 

I’ll hang up and listen.

No, it shouldn't. That's why it doesn't you ***** - it's clearly ***** outlined. 

TOT_NETDrAV is the AV that a team has benefitted from directly while the player is on their team, as compared to players and teams in their draft class.

 

Please just change your username to Willful_Ignorance and crawl back into whatever hole you came from.

Edited Saturday at 10:08 PM by JGMcD2

[aristocrat]

3 hours ago, K D said:

James Cook plus #30 overall. I doubt they want to give Cook a big contract. If they wanted to do that they could have signed Barkley

Not an insane idea. I’d prefer if they wanted next years first so they have ammo to get a qb in that draft. Perhaps a second this year, first next and cook. 

[Don Otreply]

On 1/27/2025 at 11:00 AM, KentuckyBillsFan said:

I have no faith that if he does come here he won't be a letdown like our defensive line is every season. There is a system problem with that unit IMO

Agree, it all about what they are being coached to do,  we play a “contain / soft zone defense”, which is not conducive to to getting pressure on a regular basis, think about this, all these D-line acquisitions, be it draft or free agency, ALL end up as underwhelming linemen, I don’t believe that seven plus years of acquisitions are all mediocre/ occasional flash players, they are coached to be what they are, and that’s definitely not Jim Schwartz’s wide nine, if you get my drift…, the scheme needs to be changed / updated / modified etc etc etc, 

 

GO BILLS!!!

[JP51]

4 hours ago, OldTimer1960 said:

I don’t think that it’s right to evaluate a coach when the defensive talent had taken a step back.  Lost Poyer, Hyde, missed Milano for much of the season. They are not deep enough in the secondary and Miller’s injury did in the plan to swing for the fences.  
 

I am not saying that Babich is good or bad.  I think he should receive an incomplete grade for the season.

Agree it's hard to evaluate when the over all talent is deficient. These are two things I am looking at

 

1. Player regression under babich the majority of players under babich have regressed some of them young... Oliver, Bernard, Epenessa, Jones, Douglas, I feel like Rousseau and Williams flat lined if not regressed and Milano clearly regressed but you have injury.  Rapp and Hamlin their prior body of work was not enough to judge but clearly are not starting quality at the top half. Edwards regressed so badly he couldn't even stay with the team... but again injury. I have zero people improving in a substantial way under him. 

 

2. Lack of game plan anticipation. This defense routinely spotted it's opponent 30 minutes of suckitutde before adjusting in the end half. Excellent on adjusting credit to babich. Zero anticipation regarding what the other team will do to you based on your weakness. Most teams don't have 17 and would not be able to spot other teams like that. 

 

Bonus take turnover differentials are not the same year to year with out them it looks alot worse 

[3rdand12]

15 hours ago, Mark Vader said:

 

I'm not saying that Beane has been perfect at drafting, and of course I want the Bills to get better, and I think they will. Somehow.

 

Yes, Knox is overpaid, no question. Which is why I don't know why we don't use him more often. I do think Kincaid can work out and be very good for us.

When we drafted Kincaid, I had Chiefs fans come up to me and say, "You just drafted Travis Kelce." 

Now I don't have those kind of lofty expectations for Kincaid, but I think he can become a very good Tight End for the Bills.

 

I know your main focus is the defense, and I share that frustration. Is it the players? Is it the scheme? I'm not sure.

I like McDermott, and even though he was a student of Jim Johnson, I still have really yet to see that from him.

How do you mean ? Not seeing the Jim Johnson in him ?

9 hours ago, JohnNord said:

If you scroll to the 31:50 mark you’ll hear the discussion about Maxx Crosby (see how easy that was?)

 

TL:DR - Tom Brady is going to want to keep Crosby
 

Basically Diana Russini feels teams will be calling the Raiders but ultimately she doesn’t think he will be traded.  She believes that retaining DC Patrick Graham was one way of appeasing him.  Also she thinks that Tom Brady has been active in decision making and he is trying to build something.  It wouldn’t make sense to get rid of a player like Crosby.  
 

Her co-host Chase Daniel, guessed that Crosby would be worth 3 first round draft picks.  She said maybe a little less, which leads me to maybe 2 first rounders and something like a 3rd?  
 

 

Thanks. Made it easy for me !
 Sounds brutal if any kind of true

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