We are currently negative 2.5 mill in cap space for 2025

[Aussie Joe]

20 hours ago, BillsFan130 said:

Thomas was picked at 23, Bills were at 28.

 

So would have had to move to

20-22 to get him

Thomas had an amazing year. Almost 1300 yards, 10 TDs and is looking like a superstar in the making 

so which of those three teams is trading with the Bills ?

Not the Dolphins at 21 I wouldn’t imagine…

 

The Eagles at pick 22 got Quinyon Mitchell… he was pretty much recognised as the best CB in the draft and was first off the board … …I think that was the guy they wanted so I would suggest it’s unlikely they were moving …

 

so probably leaves the Steelers at 20 as the only realistic option … they took a RT …maybe they tried to move up and they wanted too much .., probably we will never know … but it takes two to tango and they just can’t move where they want …

[BillsFan130]

3 hours ago, Aussie Joe said:

so which of those three teams is trading with the Bills ?

Not the Dolphins at 21 I wouldn’t imagine…

 

The Eagles at pick 22 got Quinyon Mitchell… he was pretty much recognised as the best CB in the draft and was first off the board … …I think that was the guy they wanted so I would suggest it’s unlikely they were moving …

 

so probably leaves the Steelers at 20 as the only realistic option … they took a RT …maybe they tried to move up and they wanted too much .., probably we will never know … but it takes two to tango and they just can’t move where they want …

Ya for sure, we will never know if a trade was realistic for the right price.

 

But... There is a price for everything. 

 

If the Bills really wanted BT JR, they could have gotten him

3 hours ago, Buffalo Barbarian said:

 

I understand the Cooper trade, but the mistake Beane made was not getting separators last offseason and draft, Josh does better with those WRs but for some crazy reason he decided to get big body guys.

 

Josh was at his best with Brown and Beasley.

 

 

100 percent agreed. I said the exact same thing when the Bills drafted Kincaid.

 

Going big with 12 personnel isn't Josh's strong suit, as he prefers throwing to shifty receivers

Edited January 28 by BillsFan130

[Aussie Joe]

2 minutes ago, BillsFan130 said:

Ya for sure, we will never know if a trade was realistic for the right price.

 

But... There is a price for everything. 

 

If the Bills really wanted BT JR, they could have gotten him

Yep .., but we also have the benefit of hindsight now and we can recognise the value BT Jr actually has …if they redo that draft he is going a lot earlier than 23 

[BillsFan130]

5 minutes ago, Aussie Joe said:

Yep .., but we also have the benefit of hindsight now and we can recognise the value BT Jr actually has …if they redo that draft he is going a lot earlier than 23 

Fair- But I think a lot of us (including myself), were saying go up to get him at the time, as he has elite traits- And it was a surprise to me that he even made it to the 20s

Edited January 28 by BillsFan130

[GASabresIUFan]

https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/6112793/2025/02/05/bills-2025-offseason-roster-salary-cap/
 

Excellent analysis of the Bills cap situation.  Suggests restructuring Miller, Allen, Dawkins and Oliver and some smaller moves gets the Bills to 37 mill in cap space.  
 

The Bills will need to add a starter at CB and WR, hopefully bring back Ty Johnson and Hollins and complete the roster.  Depending on how Beane adds starters at CB and WR, will greatly influence how much money he has for upgrades on the DL.  
 

I now expect Miller to return at half his current cost as a situational pass rusher.  One move he didn’t mention in the article is cutting AJE.  That yields cap savings and opens a spot for an upgrade. 

[SoonerBillsFan]

29 minutes ago, GASabresIUFan said:

https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/6112793/2025/02/05/bills-2025-offseason-roster-salary-cap/
 

Excellent analysis of the Bills cap situation.  Suggests restructuring Miller, Allen, Dawkins and Oliver and some smaller moves gets the Bills to 37 mill in cap space.  
 

The Bills will need to add a starter at CB and WR, hopefully bring back Ty Johnson and Hollins and complete the roster.  Depending on how Beane adds starters at CB and WR, will greatly influence how much money he has for upgrades on the DL.  
 

I now expect Miller to return at half his current cost as a situational pass rusher.  One move he didn’t mention in the article is cutting AJE.  That yields cap savings and opens a spot for an upgrade. 

Miller just needs to go at this point.  And even after all the cap dump we are still over the cap and no Superbowl to show for it.

[GASabresIUFan]

1 minute ago, SoonerBillsFan said:

Miller just needs to go at this point.  And even after all the cap dump we are still over the cap and no Superbowl to show for it.

The article points out you can realize about the same cap savings by just cutting his pay and keeping the player.  I’d much rather cut AJE.  Miller at 36 in a depth role is still better than AJE who McD took off the field in passing downs.  

[Pete]

Joe Marino said that the Bills are projected to have between $20-$30 million in cap space.

 

The figure I’ve heard is that the Bills can free up an approximate additional $70 million in cap space if they pull every lever.

[Pete]

32 minutes ago, SoonerBillsFan said:

Miller just needs to go at this point.  And even after all the cap dump we are still over the cap and no Superbowl to show for it.

Von graded out as our best pass rusher.  He was top 10.  IMO there is a great chance we get Garrett for two #1s and Roseau.  Myles- Von-AJ-high draft pick is a much improved DL and pass rush

[klos63]

9 minutes ago, Pete said:

Von graded out as our best pass rusher.  He was top 10.  IMO there is a great chance we get Garrett for two #1s and Roseau.  Myles- Von-AJ-high draft pick is a much improved DL and pass rush

From what I've read from anonymous GM's, that's too much for Garrett, plus with the Browns terrible cap situation,  no way they'll take on Rousseau's 5th year,  and possible extension. 

[Buffalo_Stampede]

We are in better cap shape this offseason than the offseason we signed Von Miller to $120 million.

 

 

[Magox]

They can make lots of moves that are reasonable to free up over $60 million for 2025

 

Extensions:

 

Josh Allen $10m

James Cook $3m

Rousseau $10m

 

Restructures: (These are players who I envision remaining with the team through the end of their contract)

 

Dion Dawkins $10m

Ed Oliver $9m

 

Cut Post June 1:

 

Von Miller $17m

Daquan $5.5m

 

Cut salary candidate:

 

Dawson Knox $3m

 

You guys can use this site and look at the possibilities https://overthecap.com/salary-cap/buffalo-bills

 

If pressed they could free up another $15-$20m more.   I’ve identified here about $67m worth which for me would be reasonable moves.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Buffalo_Stampede]

2 minutes ago, Magox said:

They can make lots of moves that are reasonable to free up over $60 million for 2025

 

Extensions:

 

Josh Allen $10m

James Cook $3m

Rousseau $10m

 

Restructures: (These are players who I envision remaining with the team through the end of their contract)

 

Dion Dawkins $10m

Ed Oliver $9m

 

Cut Post June 1:

 

Von Miller $17m

Daquan $5.5m

 

Cut salary candidate:

 

Dawson Knox $3m

 

You guys can use this site and look at the possibilities https://overthecap.com/salary-cap/buffalo-bills

 

If pressed they could free up another $15-$20m more.   I’ve identified here about $67m worth which for me would be reasonable moves.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

They can but won’t because Brandon Beane doesn’t want to go for it for a year or two. It’s the reason Allen will never win a Super Bowl.

 

They need to go for it right now and every year in Allen’s prime.

[T master]

For what ever the reason i thought that the Diggs money came off the cap this last season & going into the 2025 season the Bills were suppose to have quite a bit of room under the cap to spend the way they saw fit ? But i guess i misunderstood something some where .

 

 

[Buffalo_Stampede]

12 minutes ago, T master said:

For what ever the reason i thought that the Diggs money came off the cap this last season & going into the 2025 season the Bills were suppose to have quite a bit of room under the cap to spend the way they saw fit ? But i guess i misunderstood something some where .

 

 

They were like $40 million over the cap last year and then created over $60 million in dead cap space.

 

They are in much better position this season. There won’t be nearly as much dead cap space and they will have about $25 million in cap space to play with. Depending how you structure deals, $25 million can go a long way. 

Edited Wednesday at 02:30 PM by Buffalo_Stampede

[HappyDays]

7 hours ago, GASabresIUFan said:

https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/6112793/2025/02/05/bills-2025-offseason-roster-salary-cap/
 

Excellent analysis of the Bills cap situation.  Suggests restructuring Miller, Allen, Dawkins and Oliver and some smaller moves gets the Bills to 37 mill in cap space.  
 

The Bills will need to add a starter at CB and WR, hopefully bring back Ty Johnson and Hollins and complete the roster.  Depending on how Beane adds starters at CB and WR, will greatly influence how much money he has for upgrades on the DL.  
 

I now expect Miller to return at half his current cost as a situational pass rusher.  One move he didn’t mention in the article is cutting AJE.  That yields cap savings and opens a spot for an upgrade. 

 

One other move Joe didnt mention - David Edwards could be cut for just $875K in dead cap which would be $4M in cap savings. I think this is very possible. Edwards was steady for us but also the weak link on the line (or maybe Torrence). Supposedly they were trying Grable out at guard, and they still have Alec Anderson. I could see us going to one of those younger cheaper options.

 

Edited Wednesday at 07:19 PM by HappyDays

[TheBeaneBandit]

3 minutes ago, HappyDays said:

 

One other move Joe didnt mention - David Edwards coul be cut for just $875K in dead cap which would be $4M in cap savings. I think this is very possible. Edwards was steady for us but also the weak link on the line (or maybe Torrence). Supposedly they were trying Grable out at guard, and they still have Alec Anderson. I could see us going to one of those younger cheaper options.

Definitely something to keep an eye on. Typically Grable is a little tall for a guard but there's been other people to buck the norm. 

[Aussie Joe]

22 minutes ago, TheBeaneBandit said:

Definitely something to keep an eye on. Typically Grable is a little tall for a guard but there's been other people to buck the norm. 

For the sake of $4m …I wouldn’t be trading Edwards ( no chance you just cut him - he has value considering Groy got a 5th last year )  ..particularly to promote someone unproven at the  position …

 

This is the best OL Josh has had in front of him …keep it together one more year 

[Matt_In_NH]

On 1/27/2025 at 10:28 AM, Pete said:

Easily to work under.  And substantially better than last season.

They are starting at a better spot but they have less chess pieces to use this year to create space as compared to last year, Beane talked about that. I think all in all, they are in a similar situation because they wont be able to create as much space as they did last year.

[Nihilarian]

On 1/27/2025 at 10:36 AM, DCofNC said:

They continue to hit in draft picks, Carter is destroying OLs and Dejean (who SHOULD have been the Bills pick) has been locking people down, they continue to replace high performers with high performers on the cheap, through the draft, the way it’s intended.

Perhaps we can steal some of their scouts?