Definition of insanity

[Dubie54]

Doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.

 

Mcd has been out coached in every single playoff game against the Chiefs and you thought he would have learned a few things by now about Andy Reid. Andy always pulls a few surprises and coaches extremely well to the other team’s weaknesses. Why don’t we ever look imaginative on offense and play a less predictable defense. One conclusion is because it’s risky, so let’s just stay the course and expect it to work.

 

The tush push. When everybody in the house is expecting the same thing, do something different! 
 

Playing Elam 10-15 yds off the receiver is the answer to Benford going down? We already tried that in the 13 second game and look what happened. I thought Elam was a pressure man to man guy, and what happened to Ingram and Lewis?
 

Where was the pressure on Mahomes? Look what KC did to disguise the pressure on Josh when he had to unload the prayer to Kincaid. I don’t buy that we don’t have personnel to do it - it’s how you use what you have.

 

There are a lot of glaring weaknesses on the team but I just don’t think Mcd is up to the challenge and the ceiling keeps hitting him in the head every year. There were clear opportunities to win that game, no doubt in my mind about that. The thought of  cleaning house, Beane and Mcd, is not a pleasant one but at some point you just have to be honest and say that they have had numerous chances to prove they can do it and look where it has gotten us. Sure there are those who will say that winning the conference and making it deep into the playoffs is great but we are trying to win championships not just be a respectable team. 

 

[Simon]

Unless you have an actual viable solution, this is nothing but more complaining.

They've arguably been the second best team in the NFL for the last 5 years and would probably have a couple Lombardis if it weren't for the Chiefs.

Mahomes/Reid/Spagnuolo are not only the best combo in the NFL but one of the best in its entire history.

What is your realistic solution to get past them, because blowing it all up ain't it.

[Commander Tom]

They were two inches away from wining that game on the fourth down.  Kincaid doesn't drop that pass - we win.  We could have had them, and it had nothing to do with coaching.  @Simon is right.  He/she is always right!    

 

 

Edited Monday at 02:54 PM by Commander Tom

[Einstein]

I’m down in the dumps today too, friend.

 

But ask yourself - who is available? I don’t want a Brian Schottenheimer.

[Bermuda Triangle]

Just now, Simon said:

Unless you have an actual viable solution, this is nothing but more complaining.

They've arguably been the second best team in the NFL for the last 5 years and would probably have a couple Lombardis if it weren't for the Chiefs.

Mahomes/Reid/Spagnuolo are not only the best combo in the NFL but one of the best in its entire history.

What is your realistic solution to get past them, because blowing it all up ain't it.

1. Hiring a quality ST coach.  Only 1 major gaffe last night from that unit;

2. Learning how to scheme up pressure (see: Spagnuolo);

3. Emphasis on speed at defensive back and wide receiver.

 

I'd ask that we get better production from premium draft picks, but with Beane, it is what it is.

[Strethor]

The definition of insanity is having Mack Hollins be the go-to guy. Where are all these pieces? This is a GM and coaching failure. I think this go around Beane deserves more of the blame than in previous years..

[SoonerBillsFan]

7 minutes ago, Simon said:

Unless you have an actual viable solution, this is nothing but more complaining.

They've arguably been the second best team in the NFL for the last 5 years and would probably have a couple Lombardis if it weren't for the Chiefs.

Mahomes/Reid/Spagnuolo are not only the best combo in the NFL but one of the best in its entire history.

What is your realistic solution to get past them, because blowing it all up ain't it.

At some point, that is nothing but an excuse.  The drafting hasn't been good for awhile now, Allen still doesn't have a viable target outside Shakir.

 

McDermott's system doesn't work against top teams, and Andy Reid chews him up every playoff game.  I mean Reid fired the man for a reason. 

 

Now either the coaching isn't getting it done or the talent isn't.  Something has to change Simon, and you might watch Allens presser, the man is sick of this.  

[Sharky7337]

The complete lack of self scouting and any tendency breaker on the side they sneak on is alarming to me.

 

These are supposed to be professional coaches and be the best at what they do. 

 

 

Edited Monday at 03:06 PM by Sharky7337

[T master]

20 minutes ago, Dubie54 said:

Doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.

 

Mcd has been out coached in every single playoff game against the Chiefs and you thought he would have learned a few things by now about Andy Reid. Andy always pulls a few surprises and coaches extremely well to the other team’s weaknesses. Why don’t we ever look imaginative on offense and play a less predictable defense. One conclusion is because it’s risky, so let’s just stay the course and expect it to work.

 

The tush push. When everybody in the house is expecting the same thing, do something different! 
 

Playing Elam 10-15 yds off the receiver is the answer to Benford going down? We already tried that in the 13 second game and look what happened. I thought Elam was a pressure man to man guy, and what happened to Ingram and Lewis?
 

Where was the pressure on Mahomes? Look what KC did to disguise the pressure on Josh when he had to unload the prayer to Kincaid. I don’t buy that we don’t have personnel to do it - it’s how you use what you have.

 

There are a lot of glaring weaknesses on the team but I just don’t think Mcd is up to the challenge and the ceiling keeps hitting him in the head every year. There were clear opportunities to win that game, no doubt in my mind about that. The thought of  cleaning house, Beane and Mcd, is not a pleasant one but at some point you just have to be honest and say that they have had numerous chances to prove they can do it and look where it has gotten us. Sure there are those who will say that winning the conference and making it deep into the playoffs is great but we are trying to win championships not just be a respectable team. 

 

 

At the beginning of the season this team according to the experts weren't even going to be in the conversation when it came to winning their division and they were coached through all of the injury's this season to come out to be in the AFC Championship game .

 

Every one you ask that knows football out side of the Fans will tell you Beane and McD are amongst the best in the game, far from perfect but i'd say in the top 5 at the very least .

 

As you said their are glaring weaknesses on the team that become known DURING the season and you have to COACH around them and THEY DID enough to get this team that were suppose to be basement dwellers to the AFC Championship game, went 10 & 0 at home this season, won their division AGAIN .

 

But 1 thing hasn't changed and won't for years to come, the Micheal Jordan/Tom Brady of football and his coach are standing in the way & will be standing in the way every year ...

 

And if you can't or won't see that i'm not sure what to tell you .

Edited Monday at 03:08 PM by T master

[Buffalo03]

16 minutes ago, Dubie54 said:

Doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.

 

Mcd has been out coached in every single playoff game against the Chiefs and you thought he would have learned a few things by now about Andy Reid. Andy always pulls a few surprises and coaches extremely well to the other team’s weaknesses. Why don’t we ever look imaginative on offense and play a less predictable defense. One conclusion is because it’s risky, so let’s just stay the course and expect it to work.

 

The tush push. When everybody in the house is expecting the same thing, do something different! 
 

Playing Elam 10-15 yds off the receiver is the answer to Benford going down? We already tried that in the 13 second game and look what happened. I thought Elam was a pressure man to man guy, and what happened to Ingram and Lewis?
 

Where was the pressure on Mahomes? Look what KC did to disguise the pressure on Josh when he had to unload the prayer to Kincaid. I don’t buy that we don’t have personnel to do it - it’s how you use what you have.

 

There are a lot of glaring weaknesses on the team but I just don’t think Mcd is up to the challenge and the ceiling keeps hitting him in the head every year. There were clear opportunities to win that game, no doubt in my mind about that. The thought of  cleaning house, Beane and Mcd, is not a pleasant one but at some point you just have to be honest and say that they have had numerous chances to prove they can do it and look where it has gotten us. Sure there are those who will say that winning the conference and making it deep into the playoffs is great but we are trying to win championships not just be a respectable team. 

 

At what point will you realize regime doesn't matter? We had Levy who went to 4 straight and didn't win. Multiple other ones between him and McDermott. And then McDermott makes the playoffs 7 our of 8 years and 2 championship games and still doesn't get there. But you think after 30+ years of Multiple regimes that couldn't get it done that the next one will lol

[SoonerBillsFan]

1 minute ago, Buffalo03 said:

At what point will you realize regime doesn't matter? We had Levy who went to 4 straight and didn't win. Multiple other ones between him and McDermott. And then McDermott makes the playoffs 7 our of 8 years and 2 championship games and still doesn't get there. But you think after 30+ years of Multiple regimes that couldn't get it done that the next one will lol

Then Beane needs to go and get a GM and scouting staff that can evaluate talent better.

[All_Pro_Bills]

9 minutes ago, Simon said:

Unless you have an actual viable solution, this is nothing but more complaining.

They've arguably been the second best team in the NFL for the last 5 years and would probably have a couple Lombardis if it weren't for the Chiefs.

Mahomes/Reid/Spagnuolo are not only the best combo in the NFL but one of the best in its entire history.

What is your realistic solution to get past them, because blowing it all up ain't it.

A couple weeks ago I was listening to WFAN in NY and they were talking about the Jets coaching search. The pro's and con's of going after an offensive guy vs. a defensive guy. Usually the callers are just there to moan and groan about one thing or another but this one caller spoke to something that resonated with me. His point was given a focus on offense its in your interest to hire an offensive head coach. Because if your offense is in the top 5 or so, your OC is always going to be a target every off season for other teams. And who wants to lose an OC every season and start over with a new guy, a potentially new approach, and go through the growing pains of all that almost every season. For the Bills this implies they're going to lose Brady, maybe next off season? I thought that was pretty insightful and its funny that the Jets being the Jets did the opposite.

 

As for the Bills, I think they should kick McDermott upstairs to a more administrative and management position, promote Brady to HC/OC to ensure continuity during Allen's time with the Bills, and hire a DC with the best mind and record of success they can identify. Who that is I don't have a clue right now but it needs to be somebody that can work with most of the existing players because we need a re calibration or reload and not some rebuild scenario. The ST coach needs to be fired here.

 

Is this a great idea? I don't know but its an idea.

 

[Ramza86]

16 minutes ago, Simon said:

Unless you have an actual viable solution, this is nothing but more complaining.

They've arguably been the second best team in the NFL for the last 5 years and would probably have a couple Lombardis if it weren't for the Chiefs.

Mahomes/Reid/Spagnuolo are not only the best combo in the NFL but one of the best in its entire history.

What is your realistic solution to get past them, because blowing it all up ain't it.

 

Who says blowing it up isnt it? That is very much a possibility. 

We cant hire the next innovative coach to get passed the Chiefs? Thats out of the realm of possibility?

Who would have thought wed be drafting a 1st ballot HoFer in Josh Allen. You wont know until you try and what McDermott has done is fail every year. 

[Simon]

1 minute ago, Ramza86 said:

We cant hire the next innovative coach to get passed the Chiefs? Thats out of the realm of possibility?

 

Yes, hiring some inexperienced kid who is suddenly going to magically beat the historically dominant Reid/Mahomes/Spagnuolo combo is outside the realm of possibility.

[Pete]

16 minutes ago, Einstein said:

I’m down in the dumps today too, friend.

 

But ask yourself - who is available? I don’t want a Brian Schottenheimer.

I’m not down today.  My heart breaks for Josh.  This season has been bonus.  Joe Marino did an episode about Bills going forward- cap space, bad contracts, draft picks, upcoming contracts. Etc.  And in short, the Bills are in excellent shape the next 5 years.  Next year there will be a dramatic influx of talent 

[Dubie54]

7 minutes ago, T master said:

 

At the beginning of the season this team according to the experts weren't even going to be in the conversation when it came to winning their division and they were coached through all of the injury's this season to come out to be in the AFC Championship game .

 

Every one you ask that knows football out side of the Fans will tell you Beane and McD are amongst the best in the game, far from perfect but i'd say in the top 5 at the very least .

 

As you said their are glaring weaknesses on the team that become known DURING the season and you have to COACH around them and THEY DID enough to get this team that were suppose to be basement dwellers to the AFC Championship game, went 10 & 0 at home this season, won their division AGAIN .

 

But 1 thing hasn't changed and won't for years to come, the Micheal Jordan/Tom Brady of football and his coach are standing in the way & will be standing in the way every year ...

 

And if you can't or won't see that i'm not sure what to tell you .

Respectfully disagree. “Supposed to be in the basement” - hardly. We can beat KC during the season but choke in the playoffs - what does that tell you about coaching? What’s standing in our way every year is a risk adverse coach who can’t step up under pressure.

[Buffalo03]

5 minutes ago, SoonerBillsFan said:

Then Beane needs to go and get a GM and scouting staff that can evaluate talent better.

No, you missed the point of my post. The regime AND GM doesn't matter. We had Polian and John Butler in the 90s. One is a borderline HOFer or may be a HOFer and the other was a good GM. What came of it? Nothing. More GMs through the drought...nothing. Beane comes, the best GM since the 90s by far and maybe even better and nothing. It doesn't matter who we get to coach or GM. Nothing is going to change 

[Ramza86]

2 minutes ago, Simon said:

 

Yes, hiring some inexperienced kid who is suddenly going to magically beat the historically dominant Reid/Mahomes/Spagnuolo combo is outside the realm of possibility.

Why is it magically? What makes you think magic is needed? 

Did Andy Reid get a call from the future and tell him to draft Patrick Mahomes? He took a shot and it payed off. Mahomes wasnt supposed to be a 1st ballot HOFer based on logic. He figured he could work with the kid and get him right.

 

Id rather take a chance on someone who can grow and become a better coach than Mcdermott...honestly it couldnt be that hard. 

[PromoTheRobot]

32 minutes ago, Dubie54 said:

Doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.

 

Mcd has been out coached in every single playoff game against the Chiefs and you thought he would have learned a few things by now about Andy Reid. Andy always pulls a few surprises and coaches extremely well to the other team’s weaknesses. Why don’t we ever look imaginative on offense and play a less predictable defense. One conclusion is because it’s risky, so let’s just stay the course and expect it to work.

 

The tush push. When everybody in the house is expecting the same thing, do something different! 
 

Playing Elam 10-15 yds off the receiver is the answer to Benford going down? We already tried that in the 13 second game and look what happened. I thought Elam was a pressure man to man guy, and what happened to Ingram and Lewis?
 

Where was the pressure on Mahomes? Look what KC did to disguise the pressure on Josh when he had to unload the prayer to Kincaid. I don’t buy that we don’t have personnel to do it - it’s how you use what you have.

 

There are a lot of glaring weaknesses on the team but I just don’t think Mcd is up to the challenge and the ceiling keeps hitting him in the head every year. There were clear opportunities to win that game, no doubt in my mind about that. The thought of  cleaning house, Beane and Mcd, is not a pleasant one but at some point you just have to be honest and say that they have had numerous chances to prove they can do it and look where it has gotten us. Sure there are those who will say that winning the conference and making it deep into the playoffs is great but we are trying to win championships not just be a respectable team. 

 

 

The definition of insanity is bringing up the definition of insanity.

[Jauronimo]

That isn't the definition of insanity.