Confidence in Beane?

[ArdmoreRyno]

Unless Kansas City is offering a 1.5 or earlier... never trade with them again. Ever. Ever. Ever. Ever. Ever. Ever. Ever. 

[Bruffalo]

4 minutes ago, Bangarang said:

 

How is the cap mostly fixed?

Doesn't cutting Miller alone get us out of the red by like 15 million?

 

I'm not a big salary cap follower, so maybe I'm off base here. 

 

[Billz4ever]

44 minutes ago, K D said:

What's your confidence level in Brandon Beane as the GM? He certainly hit big with Josh Allen and has added some good players such as Shakir, Bernard, and Cook. He's also missed big time on Von Miller, Elam, Cooper, Diggs contract, almost every DL draft pick.

 

What is your current confidence level and do you have high hopes for the future with Beane as GM?

 

Watching McDuffie play shutdown CB in KC continues to grind my gears and has ever since that draft where I think Beane panicked and took Elam after McDuffie went off the board.

[Roundybout]

Beane needs to stop dumping late round picks to move up two spots for players. 

[JerseyBills]

37 minutes ago, BarleyNY said:

He’s a good, competent GM. He really is.  It’s a very tough job and the hit rates for the best GMs aren’t that high. He’s doing well in that regard. My only real complaints about him are that he hasn’t hit on any elite talent (other than obviously Allen) and that he has focused so much on the defensive side of the ball that it’s been detrimental to the offense. 

Detrimental to the O? We have a top three OL..

We set multiple records this year, consistently put up close to thirty 

[Bangarang]

3 minutes ago, Bruffalo said:

Doesn't cutting Miller alone get us out of the red by like 15 million?

 

I'm not a big salary cap follower, so maybe I'm off base here. 

 

 

I'm not 100% sure about Von's contract but it appears we're well over the cap currently and even if we cut him there's not a ton of breathing room. 

[Billz4ever]

23 minutes ago, DeltaDigital said:

oh, boy... cooper dejean would sure look nice in red white and blue... could have had him AND coleman in the 3rd. 

Could've easily had Brian Branch the year before too.

 

The Kincaid pick is another aging like spoiled milk at this point.  Not saying we should've taken Branch in the 1st round, but we could've made a move in the second if we wanted to.

 

It's not like we didn't know Hyde and Poyer were near the end of the line.

Edited Monday at 02:54 PM by Billz4ever

[Bruffalo]

1 minute ago, Bangarang said:

 

I'm not 100% sure about Von's contract but it appears we're well over the cap currently and even if we cut him there's not a ton of breathing room. 

We're -2.5 million right now before anything, which is a little more than average in the league but not insane and we have a pretty low dead cap figure going into the season. 

 

 I'm mostly parroting what I've heard other podcasters and NFL people say. Eating all the dead cap this season puts us in a favorable position this upcoming one. 

[BarleyNY]

2 minutes ago, JerseyBills said:

Detrimental to the O? We have a top three OL..

We set multiple records this year, consistently put up close to thirty 

We do not have a top 3 OL. They’re a good squad, yes, but not top 3. Cook is an excellent runner, but he not a good pass catcher and he’s abysmal at pass protection. The rest of our backs complement him nicely, but none are complete RBs. Our TEs are good, but nothing special. Our WR corps is below average. What we have is a stud QB, who elevated the play of those around him.

[RyanC883]

42 minutes ago, ProcessTruster said:

we nearly went to the SB in what everyone poster here said 5 mos ago was. a complete "roster reset" , "wild card maybe" year ;

 

geez .  give me a break .   

 

sure, lets tear it all down.  what a bunch on this board

 

the “reset” narrative was BS.  

[GunnerBill]

12 minutes ago, CapeBreton said:

 

This is what bugs me, the picks of Elam/Kincaid/Coleman are looking bad. But on the flipside, they are able to draft other good players later in the draft, so I don't get it at all.

 

The answer to that is not a great one for Beane. Those later round picks rely a LOT more on your regional and area scouts than your GM. The GM is making the pick but Brandon Beane hadn't spent hours grinding Christian Benford's film for example. At that point he is following the board. He will have guys he likes but it is much less "his" evaluation.

[Chandler#81]

9 minutes ago, 78thealltimegreat said:

He makes his living on mid to late round picks being solid but unspectacular players. His last three top picks Elam, Kincaid, and Coleman have been ok to awful. His signing of Von Miller cause he missed on Edge Rushers handicapped them salary cap wise for a couple years. He’s lucky he has Allen. 

Jmo, but I think character and team fit play large when this management Drafts. I think it’s what we Draft good to very good payers consistently from the 4th Round on, but screw the pooch on our earlier selections. Goofball Coleman over Worthy being a prime example. Is it Sean’s involvement or are both he and Beane in lockstep on this mantra? Either way, the results speak for themselves.

[UKBillFan]

I'd keep Beane ahead of McDermott. Decent GMs are harder to find than decent coaches - not that the latter is easy either.

[T master]

55 minutes ago, K D said:

What's your confidence level in Brandon Beane as the GM? He certainly hit big with Josh Allen and has added some good players such as Shakir, Bernard, and Cook. He's also missed big time on Von Miller, Elam, Cooper, Diggs contract, almost every DL draft pick.

 

What is your current confidence level and do you have high hopes for the future with Beane as GM?

 

Basically Beane & McD given their draft picks along with the coaching are the reason why the Bills are relevant every year and a huge reason because of the relevance that the Bills are getting a brand new stadium . 

 

I'll give you the Elam gripe he should be gone, Von's contract p until he got hurt everyone including you more than likely were saying he's what we needed, if you look at all the other WR's in the league that put up numbers like Diggs did while he was here the contract was comparable his attitude was wrong for the Bills, & Cooper could have and should have been been more involved in the game plan .

 

The defense this year was the weak link, Ed is on again off again, he's a "Good player" but not elite but needs to be and his contract should be reworked to mirror his play ! Beane i believe will concentrate on the D line this year in the draft & FA which should help, but as far IMHO as Beane & McD they are pulling their weight .

 

GO BILLS !!! 

[Buffalo03]

How many people have been able to beat Mahomes in the playoffs? He's 18-3. Should we question every other GMs confidence level that lose to him?

[SoonerBillsFan]

None at all anymore

[Low Positive]

25 minutes ago, CapeBreton said:

 

This is what bugs me, the picks of Elam/Kincaid/Coleman are looking bad. But on the flipside, they are able to draft other good players later in the draft, so I don't get it at all.

This is probably a different discussion that should be had at a later date in another thread, but I think there are almost two drafts every year. The first one is the top two rounds, where a league-wide consensus is formed. Everyone knows the players that are getting drafted in the first two rounds. It's just the order in which they are taken that's up for debate. Mock drafts are shockingly accurate at getting the players who will be picked in the first two rounds, just not the order. My point is that if the Bills had not taken, Elam, Kincaid, and Coleman, some other team would have taken them within a few picks. After the second round, there is no such consensus and that's where scouts make their money. The Bills drafted Elam because the league-wide consensus was that he was the final first-round CB on the board. The Bills drafted Benford because they have a good scouting staff.

Edited Monday at 03:02 PM by Low Positive

[DCOrange]

8 minutes ago, Bruffalo said:

We're -2.5 million right now before anything, which is a little more than average in the league but not insane and we have a pretty low dead cap figure going into the season. 

 

 I'm mostly parroting what I've heard other podcasters and NFL people say. Eating all the dead cap this season puts us in a favorable position this upcoming one. 

If I'm crunching the numbers right, we can convert base salary to bonuses for Josh and Dion to free up roughly $18 million (getting us to $15 mil in cap space) and then can cut Von to get up into the 30s. Don't have a ton of roster spots to fill so that space could theoretically go a long ways.

[Bangarang]

13 minutes ago, Bruffalo said:

We're -2.5 million right now before anything, which is a little more than average in the league but not insane and we have a pretty low dead cap figure going into the season. 

 

 I'm mostly parroting what I've heard other podcasters and NFL people say. Eating all the dead cap this season puts us in a favorable position this upcoming one. 

 

Spotrac has us at -2.5 but OverTheCap has us at -6.9. not sure why there is a discrepancy but either way it's still one of the worst cap situations in the league for next year. 

[Niagara Dude]

7 minutes ago, Chandler#81 said:

Jmo, but I think character and team fit play large when this management Drafts. I think it’s what we Draft good to very good payers consistently from the 4th Round on, but screw the pooch on our earlier selections. Goofball Coleman over Worthy being a prime example. Is it Sean’s involvement or are both he and Beane in lockstep on this mantra? Either way, the results speak for themselves.

End of the day the Bills helped KC by giving them Worthy and we never received much in return for it. Beane and McDermott do not understand speed and size matters, yes forty times ar important or they would not bother doing 40 times testing.  Look at the space they were giving Worthy in this game while Coleman had tight coverage because no one worried about him running past them.  Only really skilled offensive player that has speed to breakaway from defenders is Cook. KC just had so many players clogging the middle of field and were never concerned on someone getting behind them. I love Collins and thought he was our best receiver but he is not scaring a team. The team needs more defensive line size and more speed at skilled positions.