Allen's Legacy

[Generic_Bills_Fan]

30 minutes ago, GoBills808 said:

I'm a bills fan who said we should trade him to the Niners for Purdy and 3 firsts. We can run ball control under Purdy w those picks+Cook and probably be as competitive, possibly more if we hit on a defensive stud

 

I'm also probably the biggest Allen guy there is. But you have to try something different

You guys don’t think Allen’s cannon/ability to run opens up the running game a lot? lol insane 

 

 

13 minutes ago, thenorthremembers said:

Well hopefully he goes to the Chiefs because he is currently on the only team that has beat them in the last season and a half.

It is honestly crazy…Reid would love seein mcd get fired haha 

[GoBills808]

3 minutes ago, Generic_Bills_Fan said:

You guys don’t think Allen’s cannon/ability to run opens up the running game a lot? lol insane

of course it does

 

i'm just not feeling the whole run it back thing anymore

[Billz4ever]

1 minute ago, GoBills808 said:

of course it does

 

i'm just not feeling the whole run it back thing anymore

 

So you want a clear downgrade at the most important position on the field and hope it works out?  

 

Have we gotten to the point were we're taking Allen so much for granted now that we think franchise QBs grow on trees?  Purdy looked quite pedestrian at times this season.  I don't think he comes with a cape.  Take him out of the NFC west and playing in domes and good weather for most of the season, and plopping him down in Buffalo probably doesn't end well either.

[UKBillFan]

9 minutes ago, Billz4ever said:

 

So you want a clear downgrade at the most important position on the field and hope it works out?  

 

Have we gotten to the point were we're taking Allen so much for granted now that we think franchise QBs grow on trees?  Purdy looked quite pedestrian at times this season.  I don't think he comes with a cape.  Take him out of the NFC west and playing in domes and good weather for most of the season, and plopping him down in Buffalo probably doesn't end well either.

 

Plus, we want to give Beane's three firsts? He's hardly great with top of the draft. The Bills would be better off with a bunch of picks from round four.

[Billz4ever]

5 minutes ago, UKBillFan said:

 

Plus, we want to give Beane's three firsts? He's hardly great with top of the draft. The Bills would be better off with a bunch of picks from round four.

 

Beane would probably trade them all for later round picks anyway, but I guess that's a way to avoid 1st round busts is to not have any 1st round picks, lol.

[colin]

10 minutes ago, UKBillFan said:

 

Plus, we want to give Beane's three firsts? He's hardly great with top of the draft. The Bills would be better off with a bunch of picks from round four.

 

lol, that's so true.

 

allen was their best pick by 10 thousand miles

 

the traded the pick for mahomes for tre white, who got hurt and became terrible after they extended him (mc corch trading mahomes for CB, such a clappy move).

they traded for diggs, who was great for a couple years and then got extended and fell off and dug a huge hole in our cap (these extensions aren't great for us, are they?).  the pick they traded?  JEFFERSON.  nice!

they traded up for kinkaid, he sucks.

traded up for edmunds, he was a decent player but we let him walk and didn't miss him (low value position)

drafted groot, he's been good

drafted oliver over 2 or 3 much better DTs, he's been good but not consistent, great playoffs this season.

traded the worthy pick to kc (another great trade!) for coleman

and of course, elam.

 

if we got anyone besides maybe lamar in that allen draft, beane and mcdermot are working in carolina between then and now and got again at some point.

 

 

 

anyhow, to address the OP, allen's legacy will be the greatest most exciting player who rescued a trash organization from itself.  he's the barry sanders of qbs.

[K-9]

Wait, did I just read that we should trade Josh Allen to the 49ers for Purdy and three firsts? Really. 
 

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

You just can’t get this comedy at home. 

[Generic_Bills_Fan]

Just now, K-9 said:

Wait, did I just read that we should trade Josh Allen to the 49ers for Purdy and three firsts? Really. 
 

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

You just can’t get this comedy at home. 

You did, and we should fire mcd and hire Mike McCarthy was one of my other favorites from today 😂

[Gunsgoodtime]

Greatest NFL player to never even make it to a Super Bowl

[K-9]

1 minute ago, Generic_Bills_Fan said:

You did, and we should fire mcd and hire Mike McCarthy was one of my other favorites from today 😂

Now that makes sense!

[Billsfanatic8989]

2 minutes ago, Generic_Bills_Fan said:

You did, and we should fire mcd and hire Mike McCarthy was one of my other favorites from today 😂

See...that isn't crazy. 

[K-9]

1 minute ago, Gunsgoodtime said:

Greatest NFL player to never even make it to a Super Bowl

He’s in good company. The list of great players to not get to the show is long and distinguished. Just like Slider’s johnson in ‘Top Gun.’

[Gunsgoodtime]

Just now, K-9 said:

He’s in good company. The list of great players to not get to the show is long and distinguished. Just like Slider’s johnson in ‘Top Gun.’

Yup Marino comes to mind

[uticaclub]

1 hour ago, Generic_Bills_Fan said:

It is honestly crazy…Reid would love seein mcd get fired haha 

Reid once did it himself

Just now, Gunsgoodtime said:

Yup Marino comes to mind

Marino got there once, just never again and didn't win

[3rdand12]

4 hours ago, dickleyjones said:

curses are not real things

Untrue

Very

 

[Lfod]

I don't think Josh thinks about his legacy as seriously as others do. Hes in the NFL, got a hot wifey, a nice bag and considered one of the top QBs and he rolled out in the first quarter trying to throw the ball to the other team. I don't know him personally but I get the impression he wasnt as locked in ace ice cold stare, down to business Mahomes. 

 

I'm sure the sting of the loss doesn't linger as long when every other aspect of your life is a win. When he does care about his legacy. He has an OC that runs the same exact tush push after getting stuffed. 

 

Lets live in reality.  KC is elite and prepared just a little more and it showed. You have a defense that gets a handful of stops againsts elite teams. He had to be perfect to win that game and he wasn't. 

 

 

 

[UKBillFan]

1 minute ago, Lfod said:

I don't think Josh thinks about his legacy as seriously as others do. Hes in the NFL, got a hot wifey, a nice bag and considered one of the top QBs and he rolled out in the first quarter trying to throw the ball to the other team. I don't know him personally but I get the impression he wasnt as locked in ace ice cold stare, down to business Mahomes. 

 

I'm sure the sting of the loss doesn't linger as long when every other aspect of your life is a win. When he does care about his legacy. He has an OC that runs the same exact tush push after getting stuffed. 

 

Lets live in reality.  KC is elite and prepared just a little more and it showed. You have a defense that gets a handful of stops againsts elite teams. He had to be perfect to win that game and he wasn't. 

 

 

 

 

I absolutely disagree and I think that's part of the problem. He was so wound up on the first drive yesterday that's why he made the errors. He wasn't locked in but it wasn't because he didn't care. If anything, he cared too much and let his emotions take over.

[3rdand12]

2 hours ago, The Jokeman said:

Once Kelce retires I think the Chiefs going to take a down turn. He's a great player and not easily replaceable also you have to wonder if they can keep their interior Oline together. Even with the Chiefs win yesterday I don't see them superior to us. 

They are not ever going to take a downturn.

Unless Reid and Spagnola  move on.

 

Bills were out coached. Allen started shaky as heck as we got behind and looked panicked a bit.

 Brady was not awful , he just couldn't get it moving and and with rhythm.

Bills Coaches got an education they should have been better prepared for

8 minutes ago, UKBillFan said:

 

I absolutely disagree and I think that's part of the problem. He was so wound up on the first drive yesterday that's why he made the errors. He wasn't locked in but it wasn't because he didn't care. If anything, he cared too much and let his emotions take over.

I agree he was overwound.

Not that he doesnt care. Obviously he has Passion !

1st quarter design was a poor effort in the moment and it showed. Josh was not settled in yet

 

Edited Monday at 10:27 PM by 3rdand12

[Lfod]

12 minutes ago, UKBillFan said:

 

I absolutely disagree and I think that's part of the problem. He was so wound up on the first drive yesterday that's why he made the errors. He wasn't locked in but it wasn't because he didn't care. If anything, he cared too much and let his emotions take over.

 

It's a liability in a game that you know the D wont stop KC and an OC that runs the same tush push every time because he didn't have an answer. 

 

I don't think its fair to ask Josh to be perfect in reality but thats what it was gonna take. In the end he put the ball in Kinkaids hands.

 

Im not a downer. Im in the camp this team over achieved and I didn't think they would make it past the Ravens and i for sure thought they would lose to the chiefs for all the same reasons they did lose. 

 

Next year is promising if we tool up stronger. 

Edited Monday at 10:30 PM by Lfod

[UKBillFan]

18 minutes ago, Lfod said:

 

It's a liability in a game that you know the D wont stop KC and an OC that runs the same tush push every time because he didn't have an answer. 

 

I don't think its fair to ask Josh to be perfect in reality but thats what it was gonna take. In the end he put the ball in Kinkaids hands.

 

Im not a downer. Im in the camp this team over achieved and I didn't think they would make it past the Ravens and i for sure thought they would lose to the chiefs for all the same reasons they did lose. 

 

Next year is promising if we tool up stronger. 

 

I think Josh perhaps needs to see a sports psychologist to try and calm him down in big games and the Bills need to strengthen the roster so everything isn't on him. It felt like they'd managed that with the development of Cook, so why did they abandon that and make it seem like Superman Josh was required early yesterday? It was so bizarre to see, even taking into account the Bills have been slow out of the gate for a while now.