Allen's Legacy

[PBF81]

5 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said:

The Bills made the playoffs the year before Allen. They went 6-10 in Allen’s rookie year. They made the playoffs his second year. 
 

obviously Allen is way more important than McDermott. But McDermott and this team deserves a ton of credit for Allen becoming the player he is. 

 

What has McDermott done to improve Allen's game?  

 

Did you see that article in The Athletic that someone posted as to how Allen's rise came about?  ... did you read anything significant in it as to how McD contributed to it?  HINT:  There wasn't anything.  If anything credit Daboll.  

 

As to the playoffs, without Allen having hit steady-state, we were an incredibly average team.  Both playoff games were horrific losses.  

 

 

[Buffalo716]

3 minutes ago, ChrisWatson#21 said:

It has to be the franchise.  It feels as if it’s a financial risk to put the Bills over.  At this point I don’t think as long as Reid & Mahomes are in K.C. they’re going to get past them.  We are closing in on a decision in the next two or three years to get Josh to an NFC team for some first round picks and rebuild for the post Mahomes era.  The Chiefs won this era nobodys stands a chance.  

What the hell are you spewing about we're not trading Josh Allen

[C.Biscuit97]

1 minute ago, PBF81 said:

 

What has McDermott done to improve Allen's game?  

 

Did you see that article in The Athletic that someone posted as to how Allen's rise came about?  ... did you read anything significant in it as to how McD contributed to it?  HINT:  There wasn't anything.  If anything credit Daboll.  

 

As to the playoffs, without Allen having hit steady-state, we were an incredibly average team.  Both playoff games were horrific losses.  

 

 

Keep Brian Daboll for 4 years which never happens for a young QB. 
 

I don’t blame McDermott for last night and Allen is far better at his job than SM. I just think it’s kinda BS not to give SM/ the Bills a lot of credit for helping Allen become the player he is. 

[ChrisWatson#21]

9 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said:

What the hell are you spewing about we're not trading Josh Allen

This is the Chiefs era brother.  Nobody is beating them anytime soon.  Get Josh to an NFC team for four first round picks we start rebuilding for the post Mahomes era and Josh gets to play in a Super Bowl at least.  I love Josh Allen and want to see him play in a Super Bowl man that’s not happening here unfortunatley.

[Buffalo716]

6 minutes ago, ChrisWatson#21 said:

This is the Chiefs era brother.  Nobody is beating them anytime soon.  Get Josh to an NFC team for four first round picks we start rebuilding for the post Mahomes era and Josh gets to play in a Super Bowl at least.  I love Josh Allen and want to see him play in a Super Bowl man that’s not happening here unfortunatley.

Tom Brady didn't win 20 super bowls 

 

The Chiefs can't win every year brother unless it's rigged 

 

You play too many games to get to all those super bowls.. you can't win forever.. you eventually get worn out 

 

And no you clearly aren't a Bills fan or an allen fan because nobody under either of those categories would ever want to trade him

[90sBills]

2 hours ago, zow2 said:

 

He probably feels cursed,,, not for playing in Buffalo specifically but for being in the AFC conference in the Mahomes/Reid era.  Just bad timing.  Allen is way better than Hurts and Purdy and those guys have SB appearances.

 

13 seconds hurt worse than this by a mile.  I felt like the SB was ripped away like Lucy pulling the football from Charlie Brown.  This year we lost on our own terms, and to some extent last season too.  We had the ball late in the games to score a TD and take the lead.  Mahomes has done it,  we don't.  That's who we are.

Hurts and Purdy don’t have to go through Mahomes to get to a Super Bowl. 
 

The bolded part cannot be stressed enough for people that keep on blaming the defense. They held KC to a fg so Allen and the offense could go be heroes. Flipped it around the other way. If KC’s defense held us to a fg with 3 minutes left so Mahomes could go win the game everyone would say that’s a great defensive stand etc.

 

The difference is Mahomes and company usually come through, like in last year’s Super Bowl winning drive, and we falter. Two years in a row now with the exact scenario. At least last year we got to fg range. This year we couldn’t even do that. 

[GoBills808]

Just now, Buffalo716 said:

Tom Brady didn't win 20 super bowls 

 

The Chiefs can't win every year brother unless it's rigged 

 

You play too many games to get to all those super bowls.. you can't win forever.. you eventually get worn out 

 

And no you clearly aren't a Bills fan or an allen fan because nobody under either of those categories would ever want to trade him

I'm a bills fan who said we should trade him to the Niners for Purdy and 3 firsts. We can run ball control under Purdy w those picks+Cook and probably be as competitive, possibly more if we hit on a defensive stud

 

I'm also probably the biggest Allen guy there is. But you have to try something different

[PBF81]

24 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said:

Keep Brian Daboll for 4 years which never happens for a young QB. 
 

I don’t blame McDermott for last night and Allen is far better at his job than SM. I just think it’s kinda BS not to give SM/ the Bills a lot of credit for helping Allen become the player he is. 

 

Not the point re: Daboll and you know it.  

 

Of course not on the latter.  It's never the reason.  LOL  

 

 

[ChrisWatson#21]

1 minute ago, Buffalo716 said:

Tom Brady didn't win 20 super bowls 

 

The Chiefs can't win every year brother unless it's rigged 

 

You play too many games to get to all those super bowls.. you can't win forever.. you eventually get worn out 

 

And no you clearly aren't a Bills fan or an allen fan because nobody under either of those categories would ever want to trade him

The Bills aren’t beating those guys and they aren’t getting rid of McDermott so what do you suggest?  Sean Payton isn’t available and In the meantime Jalen Hurts an inferior QB gets to go to his second Super Bowl while Josh’s sits home and gets dissed idiots like Ryan Clark clown him on TV telling him to go "smoke his stats at home on a hookah". 

[Buffalo716]

2 minutes ago, GoBills808 said:

I'm a bills fan who said we should trade him to the Niners for Purdy and 3 firsts. We can run ball control under Purdy w those picks+Cook and probably be as competitive, possibly more if we hit on a defensive stud

 

I'm also probably the biggest Allen guy there is. But you have to try something different

I'm going to literally vomit 

 

You're clearly not the biggest a Allen guy because he's the most exciting player in our franchise in 40 years 

 

Possibly the greatest player in our franchise ever 

 

I'm not trading him.. as I said yesterday before the game 

 

I cherish every game I get to watch Josh Allen play because there's only x amount left 

 

You definitely don't like Allen as much as a lot of guys who live in Buffalo LOL because if you said that to a bunch of hardcore fans in person there would not be a good reaction.. especially after we lose a game try telling diehards you want to trade him lol

 

That's the kind of stuff that starts brawls in Buffalo

[Goin Breakdown]

Josh's legacy will be Bad Timing.
 

Made the Bills relevant. Gave the city and the fans hope. Too bad it was at the same time as the KC surge. Seriously KC is going back next year too and multiple times after. This is more than what the pats were. 

[The Jokeman]

15 minutes ago, ChrisWatson#21 said:

This is the Chiefs era brother.  Nobody is beating them anytime soon.  Get Josh to an NFC team for four first round picks we start rebuilding for the post Mahomes era and Josh gets to play in a Super Bowl at least.  I love Josh Allen and want to see him play in a Super Bowl man that’s not happening here unfortunatley.

Once Kelce retires I think the Chiefs going to take a down turn. He's a great player and not easily replaceable also you have to wonder if they can keep their interior Oline together. Even with the Chiefs win yesterday I don't see them superior to us. 

[Goin Breakdown]

19 minutes ago, ChrisWatson#21 said:

This is the Chiefs era brother.  Nobody is beating them anytime soon.  Get Josh to an NFC team for four first round picks we start rebuilding for the post Mahomes era and Josh gets to play in a Super Bowl at least.  I love Josh Allen and want to see him play in a Super Bowl man that’s not happening here unfortunatley.

Other than the thought of trading him, I understand at least what you're saying about Josh as the person/player. 

[GoBills808]

1 minute ago, Buffalo716 said:

I'm going to literally vomit 

 

You're clearly not the biggest a Allen guy because he's the most exciting player in our franchise in 40 years 

 

Possibly the greatest player in our franchise ever 

 

I'm not trading him.. as I said yesterday before the game 

 

I cherish every game I get to watch Josh Allen play because there's only x amount left 

 

You definitely don't like Allen as much as a lot of guys who live in Buffalo LOL because if you said that to a bunch of hardcore fans in person there would not be a good reaction.. especially after we lose a game try telling diehards you want to trade him lol

 

That's the kind of stuff that starts brawls in Buffalo

lol

 

you think i gaf about what a bunch of 'diehards' think. check my posting history. been an Allen guy since day1

 

I want the Bills to win a Super Bowl. I don't care who the QB is, who the HC is, who the GM is or who the waterboy is. I don't cherish regular seasons wins, tshirt and hats, none of it.

[Buffalo716]

3 minutes ago, GoBills808 said:

lol

 

you think i gaf about what a bunch of 'diehards' think. check my posting history. been an Allen guy since day1

 

I want the Bills to win a Super Bowl. I don't care who the QB is, who the HC is, who the GM is or who the waterboy is. I don't cherish regular seasons wins, tshirt and hats, none of it.

That's not my point 

 

Saying you're the biggest Allen guy but then wanting to trade him and think we could be better is still insane 

 

Josh Allen is still 100% our best chance at winning a super bowl it's not close 

 

Brock purdy isn't getting shanahan or the niners talent around him and a few first round picks isn't doing anything because we don't do much with them 

 

Josh Allen is still our best chance at a super bowl by far.. and trading the best player in our franchise in the last 35 years is not the way to do it 

 

You think you're the only one who wants a super bowl lol but trading Josh Allen is not the way to do it

 

People think this franchise is cursed now? Yeah trade the most talented player in the league and see how much more cursed we are hahahah

 

But biggest Josh Allen fan and trade him do not go hand in hand because he is our best chance at a super bowl

Edited Monday at 08:31 PM by Buffalo716

[GoBills808]

2 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said:

That's not my point 

 

Saying you're the biggest Allen guy but then wanting to trade him and think we could be better is still insane 

 

Josh Allen is still 100% our best chance at winning a super bowl it's not close 

 

Brock purdy isn't getting shanahan or the niners talent around him and a few first round picks isn't doing anything because we don't do much with them 

 

Josh Allen is still our best chance at a super bowl by far.. and trading the best player in our franchise in the last 35 years is not the way to do it 

 

You think you're the only one who wants a super bowl lol but trading Josh Allen is not the way to do it

 

People think this franchise is cursed now? Yeah trade the most talented player in the league and see how much more cursed we are hahahah

 

But biggest Josh Allen fan and trade him do not go hand in hand because he is our best chance at a super bowl

bro stop

 

I've been saying for 3 years now Allen is the best QB in the league. i stand on that and i doubt you can say the same so spare me the superfan lecture

 

 

[Buffalo716]

15 minutes ago, GoBills808 said:

bro stop

 

I've been saying for 3 years now Allen is the best QB in the league. i stand on that and i doubt you can say the same so spare me the superfan lecture

 

 

 I've been saying Josh is the best player in the league for years here bro

 

Everybody knows I'm a Josh Allen Homer and I've been for a long long time 

 

I was calling him a future All pro before he broke out year 3.. I've been adamant he's better than mahomes for a long time

 

Like I've been saying he's been better than mahomes for years

 

I'm just saying it's crazy to want to trade our best player because a bird in the hand is worth two in the bush.. purdy is nothing special, he's not going to have Christian McCaffrey and the niners around him.. or shanahan.. and we haven't been drafting good anyways so those three first round picks probably become average 

 

Josh Allen is better than purdy and three unknowns

 

 

 

4 years ago I literally called Allen the future of the NFL and that he will be the best quarterback... I also said he was better than mahomes before that

 

 

 

Edited Monday at 08:51 PM by Buffalo716

[ChrisWatson#21]

4 minutes ago, Goin Breakdown said:

Other than the thought of trading him, I understand at least what you're saying about Josh as the person/player. 

I’m a Bills fan for life but I’m also so grateful for Josh Allen he has been a blessing for this franchise and it pains me to see him get labeled a choker and get to watch inferior QB’s like Jalen Hurts play in their second Super Bowl because he plays in the NFC.  I just don’t have hope anymore that the Bills will be in a Super Bowl not while Mahomes is in his prime coached by Andy Reid with Spags.  

[thenorthremembers]

7 hours ago, peterpan said:

Always the bridesmaid, never the bride.

 

if the dude requested a trade I wouldn’t hold it against him one bit.  I’d follow him to another team and could maybe leave this abusive relationship behind 

Well hopefully he goes to the Chiefs because he is currently on the only team that has beat them in the last season and a half.

[Bleeding Bills Blue]

56 minutes ago, K-9 said:

Josh’s legacy? It’s still being written. And all this noise about how Josh is the first to lose four times to the same team in the playoffs is pure manufactured talking head crap. 

 

I think its crazy how quickly they've matched up this many times.  KC is going to their 5th super bowl in 7 years with Mahomes, and have been in the AFC championship every year.  For all the "Allens 0-4 against kc in the playoffs" talk, Mahomes is 17-3 in the playoffs and has only lost one game to a team that didn't have tom brady at QB, and they probably should've won that game against Cincinnati.