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Allen knows, in his heart of hearts, that the only difference between him and the man who has everything professionally that he wants, is the people around him.

 

The coaches, the staff and the players. 

 

He's the perfect leader and teammate, but at some point, the anger & resentment will begin to set in.   It's just natural.

 

Allen won't, but he should ask for this organization to go in another direction.  Worst case scenario is we have a Bengals type year.. but at least we tried something. 

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6 minutes ago, Airseven said:

Allen is in no position to ask for a new staff. If anything, how about less golf this summer...

 

So after 4 months you're suddenly going to reappear after the Bills are eliminated so you can start spouting stupid shlt.

Goodbye troll.

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A defensive HC paired with an all-time great talent at QB is almost always a major disadvantage UNLESS that HC schemes up a defense that comes up huge in big games. It's very hard to do, and almost never actually happens. 

 

It can work when a guy is less of an X's and O's type and more of a CEO like Pete Caroll and the Legion of Boom days. He wasn't scheming up those defenses. That was delegated. 

 

It can also work when your defensive minded HC truly is a defensive mastermind like Belichick, whose defenses always gave top offenses fits in the playoffs. 

 

McDermott is a good defensive coach whose defenses are good (not great). Thus, they feast on bad to good offenses and get shredded by elite ones. Once you hit the playoffs you generally play the elite ones. 

 

It's a pattern. This isn't a one off, one year thing. It's consistent. We have a serious scheme and roster philosophy issue on defense. We want small, quick players who are "great guys" and we're playing a passive "let the game come to you" scheme that doesn't work very often against good QBs. 

 

This is a roster building philosophy on defense driven by McDermott. They want smaller players. He has a particular scheme. 

 

The Houston Texans gave KC a real problem with their defense. the McDermott supporters this morning are saying "guys, KC didn't score a TD on EVERY drive!" as if that's somehow impressive. 

 

All that said, McDermott gets Allen's whole career, and we all know it. That's the biggest issue with a defensive minded HC whose defenses are mediocre at best and whose scheme and philosophy are lacking: your superstar QB will win enough games to get you to the playoff every year, and you can't fire a coach who leads his team to the playoffs every season. 

 

If you do not support letting McDermott go then you agree: he gets Allen's entire career. 

 

If I'm wrong, then what is it going to take? 

 

8 years of Allen's career and no SB appearance? 

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10?

 

now you're going to fire a HC whose made it deep into the playoffs 10 times?

 

It only gets harder. 

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2 minutes ago, TheFunPolice said:

A defensive HC paired with an all-time great talent at QB is almost always a major disadvantage UNLESS that HC schemes up a defense that comes up huge in big games. It's very hard to do, and almost never actually happens. 

 

It can work when a guy is less of an X's and O's type and more of a CEO like Pete Caroll and the Legion of Boom days. He wasn't scheming up those defenses. That was delegated. 

 

It can also work when your defensive minded HC truly is a defensive mastermind like Belichick, whose defenses always gave top offenses fits in the playoffs. 

 

McDermott is a good defensive coach whose defenses are good (not great). Thus, they feast on bad to good offenses and get shredded by elite ones. Once you hit the playoffs you generally play the elite ones. 

 

It's a pattern. This isn't a one off, one year thing. It's consistent. We have a serious scheme and roster philosophy issue on defense. We want small, quick players who are "great guys" and we're playing a passive "let the game come to you" scheme that doesn't work very often against good QBs. 

 

The Houston Texans gave KC a real problem with their defense. the McDermott supporters this morning are saying "guys, KC didn't score a TD on EVERY drive!" as if that's somehow impressive. 

 

All that said, McDermott gets Allen's whole career, and we all know it. That's the biggest issue with a defensive minded HC whose defenses are mediocre at best and whose scheme and philosophy are lacking: your superstar QB will win enough games to get you to the playoff every year, and you can't fire a coach who leads his team to the playoffs every season. 

 

If you do not support letting McDermott go then you agree: he gets Allen's entire career. 

 

Unless Josh is traded.

20 minutes ago, Simon said:

 

Philly, Houston and Detroit are a combined 0-4 against Reid's Chiefs in the playoffs :doh:

 

That seals it. The Bills should go all out to get Zac Taylor. What could go wrong?

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53 minutes ago, Simon said:

 

Philly, Houston and Detroit are a combined 0-4 against Reid's Chiefs in the playoffs :doh:

0-4 (made up number) is a stretch, combined no less whereas McDermott is 0-5 all by himself........Sirriani 0-1 Super Bowl loss Ryans 0-1 loss this year, no?

 

Wasn't aware Detroit or Philly could ever play KC in the playoffs except a Super Bowl and it happened exactaly once.

 

Please, keep going with the McDermott is the best thing since sliced bread and nobody could possibly be better narrative. 

53 minutes ago, Simon said:

 

Philly, Houston and Detroit are a combined 0-4 against Reid's Chiefs in the playoffs :doh:

0-4 (made up number) is a stretch, combined no less whereas McDermott is 0-5 all by himself........Sirriani 0-1 Super Bowl loss Ryans 0-1 loss this year, no?

 

Wasn't aware Detroit or Philly could ever play KC in the playoffs except a Super Bowl and it happened exactaly once.

 

Please, keep going with the McDermott is the best thing since sliced bread and nobody could possibly be better narrative. 

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The team needs a better defensive line.  They need a monster 340 pound trash can full of dirt like grant from michigan to allow oliver and coleman to shoot gaps versus man to man matchups.  They need defensive ends who get home.  The Bills ends are good rotational guys.  In a perfect world we could keep them and improve.

 

if the bills can find a player or two that require game planning to stop up front it would change everything about the defense.  Von Miller was the worst move in the Beane era.  I am stoked it is over.  He was bad to terrible for two years.  The only player I do not like on the roster.  So glad he will be gone.  

 

The issue now is how do you get one of those guys?  Then of course they need 1 more wr to take coopers spot.  

 

They are setup for a good draft and I imagine defense will be the focus.

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8 minutes ago, LarryMadman said:

0-4 (made up number) is a stretch

 

It's not a made up number; Philly is 0-1 and Houston is 0-3 vs Reid in the postseason.

8 minutes ago, LarryMadman said:

Please, keep going with the McDermott is the best thing since sliced bread

OK, since nobody said anything remotely resembling that it is now clear that you're trolling.

Have a nice day.

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4 hours ago, Ramza86 said:

Im not qualified to do that so I cant give you an answer. 

 

So you admit you are not qualified, but you want to tell us what to do. Think about that for a moment. No thank you. 

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26 minutes ago, Simon said:

 

It's not a made up number; Philly is 0-1 and Houston is 0-3 vs Reid in the postseason.

OK, since nobody said anything remotely resembling that it is now clear that you're trolling.

Have a nice day.

Dont know why you moved the goalposts, the talk was about coaches specifically Sirriani, Ryans and Campbell and you changed it to teams. Houston is 0-3 vs Reid, wasnt about Houston it was about Ryans who is 0-1.

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Just now, LarryMadman said:

Dont know why you moved the goalposts, the talk was about coaches specifically Sirriani, Ryans and Campbell and you changed it to teams. Houston is 0-3 vs Reid, wasnt about Houston it was about Ryans who is 0-1.

 

OK, Houston and Philly are 0-4, while Ryans and Sirriani are 0-2.

But there is no way they could ever go winless against Reid. :rolleyes:

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2 minutes ago, Simon said:

 

OK, Houston and Philly are 0-4, while Ryans and Sirriani are 0-2.

But there is no way they could ever go winless against Reid. :rolleyes:

Possible they could all go 0-5 like McDermott vs Reid but my money is on them giving Reid a loss or 2 or 3.

 

Reid with Mahomes is not invincible, whats his face in Cincy beat him as did Areans in Tampa. Mcdermott has proven he cant beat him in the playoffs when the stakes are the highest.

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34 minutes ago, Augie said:

 

So you admit you are not qualified, but you want to tell us what to do. Think about that for a moment. No thank you. 


Thats literally what forums are for. Sharing opinions and thoughts lol. Why are you here then? Nobody here is in on team meetings and reviewing tape with the coaches. So I guess nobody here is allowed to talk then.

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41 minutes ago, Ramza86 said:


Thats literally what forums are for. Sharing opinions and thoughts lol. Why are you here then? Nobody here is in on team meetings and reviewing tape with the coaches. So I guess nobody here is allowed to talk then.

 

No, you are telling us what to do, then you say you are not qualified to make that call on how to move forward. You can’t have it both ways. What is your plan? Tear it down is easy. What should we do going forward. You never tear anything down without a plan, but that’s what you want to do. 

 

Even message boards require reasonable thoughts to be taken seriously. 

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6 minutes ago, Augie said:

 

No, you are telling us what to do, then you say you are not qualified to make that call on how to move forward. You can’t have it both ways. What is your plan? Tear it down is easy. What should we do going forward. You never tear anything down without a plan, but that’s what you want to do. 

 

Even message boards require reasonable thoughts to be taken seriously. 


who is telling anyone to do anything? what are you talking about. 

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At the start of the 4th quarter of the Divisional Round, the score was KC 13, Houston 12. 

 

Their offense can be stymied, just not by this scheme. We've seen the same movie 4 times now. 

 

McDermott is a good enough coach that if things fall the right way he can win a Super Bowl. 

 

Like I said, he's going to get Allen's entire career here, for better or worse. 

 

Barring injuries, the team will be in the playoffs every year. And if there's injuries, well, you can't hold that against him. Thus he stays. 

 

The problem is it all has to go right with this scheme. In the Ravens game, Lamar needed to uncharacteristically lob a nice centerfield INT, Andrews had to drop a ball AND lose a fumble, and every bounce went our way.

 

Last night most bounces went our way too: 5 fumbles in the game and we recovered all 5. Zero turnovers on offense. Still not enough, though. 

 

To say "well, it's the Chiefs, what can you do?" is to overlook the fact that this defense seems uniquely bad at defending them. If we fielded Houston's defense last night we win by multiple scores. 

 

Plus you're not just competing against KC. Burrow and the Bengals will be back. Lamar isn't going anywhere. Then there's a bunch of 2nd tier teams with good coaches like Denver, Houston and the Chargers that could make things interesting/difficult in the AFC. Nothing is guaranteed. 

 

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31 minutes ago, Ramza86 said:


who is telling anyone to do anything? what are you talking about. 

 

You talk about McD looking good “on paper”, and Reid having more answers, then put this in the OP.

 

“At this point its worth trying something new.”

 

OK, what can we try that is better than what we have? I don’t really think a 15 year old would do better. McD has the second best winning percentage in professional sports in North America over the last 5 years. We are just stuck behind the Chiefs, who are #1. New flash! They are beating everyone else too! 

 

EDIT: I don’t mean to pick on you, but this was all so predictable. The fans whining bother me about as much as the loss. We had a pretty darn good year, and while I’m disappointed I can appreciate what we witnessed and look forward to our future. 

 

 

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