If Allen asks for a new staff he should get it.

[colin]

1 minute ago, GunnerBill said:

 

On an NFC team, sure, he makes some Superbowls. If we could make them by beating Case Keenum, Josh Johnson and the Washington Commanders like for example the Eagles three times in the past decade we'd have made multiple by now. On the Chargers? Not a prayer, they are miles behind the Bills. 

 

the chargers have a good d and a solid coach.  they lost vs the texans because their qb fell apart hard.  all is the best qb in the nfl, the best of all time according to his playoff numbers.  he's got a high floor.  mcd has a low ceiling, he can't get over any humps.  allen on a better franchise is a chip machine.

[BigBilly11]

It'll be interesting to see how Kellen Moore's offense does against Spags. Yes, he has better weapons on the outside and stellar OL but I think McDermott has run his course.

[GunnerBill]

3 minutes ago, colin said:

 

the chargers have a good d and a solid coach.  they lost vs the texans because their qb fell apart hard.  all is the best qb in the nfl, the best of all time according to his playoff numbers.  he's got a high floor.  mcd has a low ceiling, he can't get over any humps.  allen on a better franchise is a chip machine.

 

There is no way the Chargers are a better franchise. None. 

[Generic_Bills_Fan]

13 minutes ago, colin said:

 

im not saying i think he's great, but he's objectively better than mcd if we are going by his record and accomplishments.  what else would you argue is a reason to keep mcd?  his team's advanced stats in the playoffs are shocking.  goat qb, woat d, and he's a defensive coach.

 

mccarthy is 11-11 in the playoffs, prior to this season mcd was 5-5.  id blow it up to get im because mcd is awful.  any team that could win with mcd would win with mccarthy.

 

tbh, i'd much rather get bellicheck, im just using mccarthy as the steel man argument.  mcd is a defense guy, puts his time and picks and money there, and has the worst d in the postseason every single year.  he's not good.

Your ‘best quarterback ever can’t win the superbowl’ argument applies to McCarthy when he was at his best and he has regressed horribly since then and ran a talented cowboys team straight into the ground..  it’s quite frankly an embarrassing suggestion lol like if you were cryogenically frozen for mccarthys entire time with Dallas I’d still probably push back on the point but assuming you weren’t it’s just insane to pitch him as an upgrade 😂 

 

belichick had one of the best ranked defenses in the league and gave up a perfect offensive game to the bills and the Brady pats gave up a boatload of points to the chiefs but snuck through on an OT coin flip.  You really sure enough he will fare better that you fire your coach to hire a 200 year old man? Lol 

[Bray Wyatt]

I am actually beginning to believe it is more Beane than McD at this point.

[LarryMadman]

1 hour ago, oldmanfan said:

Yeah.  This will happen.

Give me the names of 2 HCs that you think would be absolute upgrades and would achieve what you want.  Two that are better than Reid.

In the past couple years did anyone know how good Sirriani, Campbell, Ryans would be? 

 

The past couple years Vrable, Payton, Belichick, Harbaugh, Quinn have all been available.

 

This narrative that nobody could ever be better than McDermott is bunk. Its just scared chicke ***** talk! Grow a set, take a chance!

[oldmanfan]

Just now, LarryMadman said:

In the past couple years did anyone know how good Sirriani, Campbell, Ryans would be? 

 

The past couple years Vrable, Payton, Belichick, Harbaugh, Quinn have all been available.

 

This narrative that nobody could ever be better than McDermott is bunk. Its just scared chicke ***** talk! Grow a set, take a chance!

Be prepared for regression then.  Again, if McD has lost the locker room make a change.  I get that.  Other than Belicheat the only guy on your list that's won a SB was Payton and he won just one with a first ballot HOFer in Brees.  The others are McDermott, have won a lot but not gotten a Lombardi yet.

[BigBilly11]

21 minutes ago, Bray Wyatt said:

I am actually beginning to believe it is more Beane than McD at this point.

 I get it. It's tough because you look at the Chiefs drafts and they have so many more massive hits than misses. Is that because they know they're taking a stud Jaylen Watson in the 7th round/ LaJarius Sneed in the 4th round or because they know how to coach them up/put them in the best spot to succeed. If they took Elam, for example, and he turned into an above average corner, it wouldn't surprise me.

Edited Monday at 02:39 PM by BigBilly11

[LarryMadman]

1 minute ago, oldmanfan said:

Be prepared for regression then.  Again, if McD has lost the locker room make a change.  I get that.  Other than Belicheat the only guy on your list that's won a SB was Payton and he won just one with a first ballot HOFer in Brees.  The others are McDermott, have won a lot but not gotten a Lombardi yet.

Regression, why, because you say so, get out of here with that. 

 

Right Payton had a first ballot HOF and won, McDermott has a first ballot HOF QB and cant win, none of those others had a first ballot HOF QB and would love to see what they could do with a first ballot HOF. 

 

At what point do you apologists see that McDermott isn't going to get over the hump? 5 more years? When Josh is gone?

 

Enough of this same frusterating boring movie already. 

 

 

 

 

[oldmanfan]

Just now, LarryMadman said:

Regression, why, because you say so, get out of here with that. 

 

Right Payton had a first ballot HOF and won, McDermott has a first ballot HOF QB and cant win, none of those others had a first ballot HOF QB and would love to see what they could do with a first ballot HOF. 

 

At what point do you apologists see that McDermott isn't going to get over the hump? 5 more years? When Josh is gone?

 

Enough of this same frusterating boring movie already. 

 

 

 

 

No I will not get out of here.  Changing coaches is a crap shoot.  

[Generic_Bills_Fan]

14 minutes ago, LarryMadman said:

In the past couple years did anyone know how good Sirriani, Campbell, Ryans would be? 

 

The past couple years Vrable, Payton, Belichick, Harbaugh, Quinn have all been available.

 

This narrative that nobody could ever be better than McDermott is bunk. Its just scared chicke ***** talk! Grow a set, take a chance!

Idk that any of those guys are better than mcd right now lol Sirianni might have a chiefs problem also guess we’ll see 

[Matt_In_NH]

20 minutes ago, BigBilly11 said:

 I get it. It's tough because you look at the Chiefs drafts and they have so many more massive hits than misses. Is that because they know they're taking a stud Jaylen Watson in the 7th round/ LaJarius Sneed in the 4th round or because they know how to coach them up/put them in the best spot to succeed. If they took Elam, for example, and he turned into an above average corner, it wouldn't surprise me.

I would love to an actual unbiased breakdown of all picks/FA's from Bills, Chiefs, Steelers and whatever other teams have had the same regime over the last 7 years.  People love to do their cherry picking.  Not saying anything is or is not true but I have never seen a good breakdown of GM's over time.   After a loss fans get negative and find problems in everything.

[klos63]

Josh pushed for Dorsey, he pushed for Brady... let's leave Josh out of this. 

We need a different philosophy on defense,  big,  strong, not smaller and quick, need to attack the QB.

Offense needs tweeking, a couple new WR, little more creativity with play calling. 

[SoonerBillsFan]

2 hours ago, Ramza86 said:

Mcdermott looks nice on paper...but honestly....this team would be in wild card contention with a 15 year old calling madden plays.

 

You can just see the difference between Reid and Mcdermott when they play each other. We blitz...Reid has more answers. They blitz we dont. Reid just has the team playing right at the right times.

 

At this point its worth trying something new. 

 

We believe as long as Allen is on the team they can make a playoff run right? So why not look for something that could get us over that hump.

Agreed.  He  needs to have a sit down with Terry, now!

[Simon]

42 minutes ago, LarryMadman said:

In the past couple years did anyone know how good Sirriani, Campbell, Ryans would be? 

 

The past couple years Vrable, Payton, Belichick, Harbaugh, Quinn have all been available.

 

How many of those guys are beating Reid/Mahomes/Spagnuolo?

Zero?

 

2 hours ago, Ramza86 said:

If Allen asks for a new staff he should get it.

 

This one might do it:

[LifeLongBillsFan]

Allen should demand to be traded and walk away from the McDermott ***** show

If he wants to win a Super Bowl he has to move on - McDemott and company are never going to get there

 

[LarryMadman]

1 hour ago, Simon said:

 

How many of those guys are beating Reid/Mahomes/Spagnuolo?

Zero?

 

 

This one might do it:

I'll bet you anything Sirriani, Ryans and Campbell would not be 0-5 each in the playoffs against Reid and Co like McDermott is and that is without Allen as their QB.

[Airseven]

Allen is in no position to ask for a new staff. If anything, how about less golf this summer...

[Chaos]

I imagine Josh would tell McDermott face to face, and if McDermott declined, Josh would NOT go public with his request.  And then we will be shocked when he signs the big FA agreement with San Francisco. 

[Simon]

3 minutes ago, LarryMadman said:

I'll bet you anything Sirriani, Ryans and Campbell would not be 0-5 each in the playoffs against Reid and Co like McDermott is and that is without Allen as their QB.

 

Philly, Houston and Detroit are a combined 0-4 against Reid's Chiefs in the playoffs