FireChans Posted Monday at 12:54 PM Posted Monday at 12:54 PM 2 minutes ago, oldmanfan said: I think if you look historically those changes work out worse more times than not. Worse than 0/4? Quote
poblano Posted Monday at 12:58 PM Posted Monday at 12:58 PM People always simplified the outcome of big games to: Lose, blame on the coaches Win , All the credit goes to the players 🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️ Quote
North Buffalo Posted Monday at 01:02 PM Posted Monday at 01:02 PM D coach and McBeane deserve blame, need better Safeties and more depth at corner, a premier pass rusher, bigger faster linebackers... sensing a theme here... better D players. Quote
davefan66 Posted Monday at 01:06 PM Posted Monday at 01:06 PM 18 minutes ago, Ramza86 said: Im not qualified to do that so I cant give you an answer. Not qualified? Yet you float an unrealistic scenario. Interesting. The real reason you say you aren’t qualified is you know darn well there is no coach out there better than McD. Who’s left?? McCarthy? Absolutely not. Kinda feel you’ll say Belichick. Nope, he now under contract at UNC with a 10 million dollar buyout. Not happening. Quote
oldmanfan Posted Monday at 01:10 PM Posted Monday at 01:10 PM 15 minutes ago, FireChans said: Worse than 0/4? As in devolving into a non-payoff team Quote
colin Posted Monday at 01:18 PM Posted Monday at 01:18 PM 18 minutes ago, Generic_Bills_Fan said: People thinking McCarthy is better tells me everything I need to know about how rational this place is lol. What a joke His track record is way way better than mcds. I like the dismissal of him (I don't love him or anything, he's just better than this dumpster fire we have now) because while he's won one, he only got as far as the NFC chip game and some 1 seeds (two of his losses in chip games were to the giants who beat the pats in the super bowl FYI) even tho he had a hall off Fame QB, and while his offense was always great his d let the team down sometimes. Contrast that with MCD, who has a HOF QB, won nothing, has been to two chip games and no number one seeds, and who's d has sucked hot donkey Wang in the playoffs. The knock on McCarthy is he should have won more. The knock on MCD is he hasn't won anything and he calls the shots on the team and he's a d coach and his d has been literally the worst in every playoff loss and his QB has literally the best performance of any QB in the history of the NFL in the playoffs. Any argument to dismiss McCarthy is an argument to our MCD in a barrell and throw him over the falls. 1 1 1 Quote
T.E. Posted Monday at 01:20 PM Posted Monday at 01:20 PM 42 minutes ago, Ramza86 said: Mcdermott looks nice on paper...but honestly....this team would be in wild card contention with a 15 year old calling madden plays. You can just see the difference between Reid and Mcdermott when they play each other. We blitz...Reid has more answers. They blitz we dont. Reid just has the team playing right at the right times. At this point its worth trying something new. We believe as long as Allen is on the team they can make a playoff run right? So why not look for something that could get us over that hump. He is counting the days until he can opt out of his contract when Stafford retires so that he can go back to his home state and play for a real coach. We can stop it by making some changes, but we won't. 1 1 Quote
ProcessTruster Posted Monday at 01:26 PM Posted Monday at 01:26 PM 34 minutes ago, Ramza86 said: Yeah so do we just accept that and lose everytime we play the Chiefs? Like weve seen coaching be the weakness of this team when the games are the toughest. Id say its worth a gamble to try something new. I think Josh kind of crapped the bed in several spots last night. Wasn't throwing it very well in spots. HOF coach Spags outcoached first time OC Brady for sure, which I would expect, but Josh had trouble compensating on the field as well. Quote
Generic_Bills_Fan Posted Monday at 01:27 PM Posted Monday at 01:27 PM (edited) 15 minutes ago, colin said: His track record is way way better than mcds. I like the dismissal of him (I don't love him or anything, he's just better than this dumpster fire we have now) because while he's won one, he only got as far as the NFC chip game and some 1 seeds (two of his losses in chip games were to the giants who beat the pats in the super bowl FYI) even tho he had a hall off Fame QB, and while his offense was always great his d let the team down sometimes. Contrast that with MCD, who has a HOF QB, won nothing, has been to two chip games and no number one seeds, and who's d has sucked hot donkey Wang in the playoffs. The knock on McCarthy is he should have won more. The knock on MCD is he hasn't won anything and he calls the shots on the team and he's a d coach and his d has been literally the worst in every playoff loss and his QB has literally the best performance of any QB in the history of the NFL in the playoffs. Any argument to dismiss McCarthy is an argument to our MCD in a barrell and throw him over the falls. The only coach to blow a game to a 7 seed that hardly ever gets out of the wildcard round has a way better track record than mcd because he won a superbowl a decade and a half ago hahaha ok why don’t you go pick up Doug Pederson while you’re at it Sent your post to my cowboys fan friends and they are dying right now 😂 Edited Monday at 01:33 PM by Generic_Bills_Fan 1 Quote
colin Posted Monday at 01:53 PM Posted Monday at 01:53 PM 18 minutes ago, Generic_Bills_Fan said: The only coach to blow a game to a 7 seed that hardly ever gets out of the wildcard round has a way better track record than mcd because he won a superbowl a decade and a half ago hahaha ok why don’t you go pick up Doug Pederson while you’re at it Sent your post to my cowboys fan friends and they are dying right now 😂 im not saying i think he's great, but he's objectively better than mcd if we are going by his record and accomplishments. what else would you argue is a reason to keep mcd? his team's advanced stats in the playoffs are shocking. goat qb, woat d, and he's a defensive coach. mccarthy is 11-11 in the playoffs, prior to this season mcd was 5-5. id blow it up to get im because mcd is awful. any team that could win with mcd would win with mccarthy. tbh, i'd much rather get bellicheck, im just using mccarthy as the steel man argument. mcd is a defense guy, puts his time and picks and money there, and has the worst d in the postseason every single year. he's not good. 1 Quote
Matt_In_NH Posted Monday at 01:54 PM Posted Monday at 01:54 PM This is the only way I see that happening. Quote
colin Posted Monday at 01:55 PM Posted Monday at 01:55 PM 1 hour ago, oldmanfan said: You’re emotional over the loss. We all are. But you’re not being at all realistic about any of this. realistic? about what, that allen won't pull this stunt? i don't think pegula will fire the coaches or gm, never said i expected it. he should, frankly he shoulda ditched him after 13 seconds. is that unrealistic? to want an improvement on a coach with the worst coaching blunders and the worst performance on his side of the ball in the playoffs? Quote
oldmanfan Posted Monday at 01:57 PM Posted Monday at 01:57 PM 1 minute ago, colin said: realistic? about what, that allen won't pull this stunt? i don't think pegula will fire the coaches or gm, never said i expected it. he should, frankly he shoulda ditched him after 13 seconds. is that unrealistic? to want an improvement on a coach with the worst coaching blunders and the worst performance on his side of the ball in the playoffs? What is unrealistic and emotional is the idea that Josh would call that kind of presser. You know that so why are you demanding it? Quote
GunnerBill Posted Monday at 01:57 PM Posted Monday at 01:57 PM 1 hour ago, colin said: allen is too nice to do it, but he should walk into the owner's office and say trade me or fire the front office. No he shouldn't. If he has genuine concerns about the leadership of the franchise he should certainly talk to Terry Pegula about them. But marching into offices making demands and issuing ultimatums is Aaron Rodgers style jackass behaviour and won't fix anything. Luckily Josh is a better person than that. Quote
Royale with Cheese Posted Monday at 02:00 PM Posted Monday at 02:00 PM 1 minute ago, GunnerBill said: No he shouldn't. If he has genuine concerns about the leadership of the franchise he should certainly talk to Terry Pegula about them. But marching into offices making demands and issuing ultimatums is Aaron Rodgers style jackass behaviour and won't fix anything. Luckily Josh is a better person than that. Why are we thinking the same the last 12 hours? I was just about the bring up Aaron Rodgers too. Da fuq is going on? 1 Quote
colin Posted Monday at 02:00 PM Posted Monday at 02:00 PM 2 minutes ago, oldmanfan said: What is unrealistic and emotional is the idea that Josh would call that kind of presser. You know that so why are you demanding it? im not demanding it, i'm saying he should and i know that he won't Quote
Brianmoorman4jesus Posted Monday at 02:02 PM Posted Monday at 02:02 PM Allen is our only hope. This team will never move on from McDermott. That 9/11 thing was our way out but he somehow sidestepped that. We are never going to win with this guy. Allen deserves better. If Allen asks for a trade I wouldn’t even blame him. He deserves better then watching the Chiefs defense out coach ours. It’s bad enough they have a QB in Allen’s level, a HC that’s miles ahead of our offense…their DC is twice the coach that our HC is. Wtf man. How are we even close to these guys? It’s not fair to him. Please ask for Belichek or someone who has proven they can win. The guys not getting any younger 1 1 1 Quote
colin Posted Monday at 02:03 PM Posted Monday at 02:03 PM 2 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: No he shouldn't. If he has genuine concerns about the leadership of the franchise he should certainly talk to Terry Pegula about them. But marching into offices making demands and issuing ultimatums is Aaron Rodgers style jackass behaviour and won't fix anything. Luckily Josh is a better person than that. pegula has shown slightly less than great acumen wrt selecting and removing front office people in professional sports teams. it would take something extreme and out of character to light a fire under him. the above is an example of one such possible thing. it isn't to say it's likely, or even remotely possible. allen on the rams, chargers, or sanfran absolutely walks to the super bowl repeatedly and wins a few. i really do fear that's where he will end up. Quote
26TrapDraw Posted Monday at 02:04 PM Posted Monday at 02:04 PM Allen should ask for his defense to be constructed of players who can tackle and a defensive line as dominant as our O line. Quote
GunnerBill Posted Monday at 02:06 PM Posted Monday at 02:06 PM Just now, colin said: pegula has shown slightly less than great acumen wrt selecting and removing front office people in professional sports teams. it would take something extreme and out of character to light a fire under him. the above is an example of one such possible thing. it isn't to say it's likely, or even remotely possible. allen on the rams, chargers, or sanfran absolutely walks to the super bowl repeatedly and wins a few. i really do fear that's where he will end up. On an NFC team, sure, he makes some Superbowls. If we could make them by beating Case Keenum, Josh Johnson and the Washington Commanders like for example the Eagles three times in the past decade we'd have made multiple by now. On the Chargers? Not a prayer, they are miles behind the Bills. Quote
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