Coaching Poll

[BarleyNY]

2 minutes ago, Billz4ever said:

 

Until Pegula is convinced a change is necessary, nothing else matters because in the end, his opinion is all that matters and I don't think he's anywhere near that point yet.

Totally agree. And let’s remember how much money is it stake here with the new stadium, PSL sales, etc. Josh Allen is making a lot of people a lot of money, most notably Pegula. Why rock that boat before he is forced to?

[Sharky7337]

If I was pegula I'd fly to NC and buy bills rights. 

 

These guys looked like amateur hour again last night.

 

Sure they did a good job during reg season  but reid owns mcd. And the defensive scheme has yet to show it can hang in the playoffs

 

And I'm not even sure how you fix the taken evaluation side of it but that needs help too. 

Edited Monday at 03:55 PM by Sharky7337

[DrDawkinstein]

13 minutes ago, Billz4ever said:

 

Until Pegula is convinced a change is necessary, nothing else matters because in the end, his opinion is all that matters and I don't think he's anywhere near that point yet.

 

Agreed in general, but that doesnt mean the fans cant discuss it or want it.

[PBF81]

49 minutes ago, BananaB said:

Only way to get to where you want is to get over that hump and beat KC when it matters most. MCD has had 4 cracks at it and nothing seems to be changing. Also think any coach could win with Josh Allen, just a matter to what extent. Maybe you take a few steps back, chance are we ain’t going back to being irrelevant as long as he is taking snaps. 

 

What hurts the most is watching KC and their ragtag and washed up bunch of incredibly average skill position talent players post their best offensive effort on the season.  

 

Imagine if this was our offensive skill positions instead of what we have, what would the outcry about Beane be.  

 

Hunt (average) 

Pacheco (average) 

Kelce (washed up, on the cusp of retirement) 

Hopkins (washed up, definitely into his back-9) 

Smith-Shuster (average at best)  

Brown (average at best)  

 

That ragtag group of crap put up more points than they had all season.  For us, only Detroit, the Rams, and Baltimore put up more points.  The talent differential between those teams and KC is monumental.  

 

We talk about our injuries on D, but honestly, those players aren't Hill, Kelce in his prime, or other premier players, many are backups themselves.  

 

Is it even possible to do worse in that regard?  Because offensively, 29 points in regulation would have been enough to beat the Chiefs in 16 of 17 of their games.  The holdout game there was KC's game vs. Carolina and their DFL 32nd ranked D.  We couldn't do better than they did.  SMFH  

 

 

[Chaos]

Real question.  Did Coach McDermott say he was outcoached by Andy Reid yesterday? 

[notpolian]

I watch a lot of the NBA.  Coaches get changed out there pretty often, even for teams close to the top.  Cleveland is a great example this year.  Milwaukee last year and there are many others.  Even Boston. 

[Coffeesforclosers]

 

The most positive thing I saw this season was the team finally adopt a pragmatic, physical, small ball identity on offense.

 

The next most positive thing I saw was the team attempt to be as physical and pragmatic on defense as it is on offense.  

 

I say attempt because it didn't succeed.  We don't have a group of above average DL, or a single truly elite DL player.  We really did take Elite safety play for granted during the years of Dr. Poyer and Mr. Hyde.  Sadly, the D needs a retooling if it wants to be truly multiple. Our pass rush is average, our Blitzing is average, our man coverage is average. Something on D needs to be elite if we're going to get over the hump.

[Billz4ever]

3 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said:

 

Agreed in general, but that doesnt mean the fans cant discuss it or want it.

 

Heck, I want lots of things but I like to keep it to things that are within the realm of possibility.  I get this was another gut-wrenching loss in the McD era, but we need to keep it real. He's not going anywhere and we need to be thinking about what can actually be done to win and get over the hump. 

[Bill from NYC]

I voted "other." I still think he has too much power in the draft. Good coach but there needs to be a strong GM. 

 

Jmo.

[notpolian]

20 minutes ago, Billz4ever said:

 

Until Pegula is convinced a change is necessary, nothing else matters because in the end, his opinion is all that matters and I don't think he's anywhere near that point yet.

I agree.  All this is just venting of frustration.  

[Brianmoorman4jesus]

He’s not going to get fired. We have to hope he’s burnt out and decides to step away. It’s our only way out. Maybe he’ll want to take a break and step away for a bit. Otherwise we are basically handcuffed 

[Alphadawg7]

2 hours ago, Chaos said:

I am not a McDermott fan. But he seems to have succeeded in building a team, rather than a collection of individuals.  Team building is an important skill.  He seems to be a players coach.  From a players perspective that is a good thing.  I think he brings those things to the table.  In fact, it seems like he may very well be great at all of the coaching elements that occur before game day, and maybe only an average game day coach. 

This is kind of where I’m at.  Except, I like McD, really wanted him and Allen to get over the hump.  He’s IMO an excellent coach from many different angles. 
 

I would also say he’s better than an “average game day coach”, I mean the Bills under him set an NFL record for most consecutive games where we didn’t lose by more than 1 score.  
 

But…in some of these big games, especially against Chiefs, he always seems to be out coached.  It’s like the opponent comes in with a better game plan to counter our game plan (on both sides of the ball) while we seem surprised or struggle with theirs.  
 

Yesterday it’s like the Chiefs knew they could exploit Mahomes running on us and did it in so many key instances where we looked completely unprepared for it every time.  Then the Tush Pushes…KC came in with a plan to stop them and we had no answers and started running a bastard version that isn’t even a tush push anymore where Josh side steps first and no one is really pushing on him.  And we kept running it right into the strength of their defense.  We again had no answers.

 

And on the Kincaid drop, how the heck were they not prepared for that corner blitz in the first place?  That one blew my mind.   
 

In the end, we had our chances still and the refs f-ed us on the 4th down.  But it doesn’t change the fact that Chiefs always seemed to have the right play call almost every time they needed it on offense or defense and we just didn’t too often. 
 

I think McD is 100% coming back this year after exceeding expectations.  Especially after the refs stole the control of the game away from us where we could possibly have gone up 2 scores instead we went down 7 on that 4th down robbery.  And then even more after Kincaid dropped our hopes on the final 4th down.  But, he should absolutely be on the hot seat in a SB or bust year.  
 

And if we don’t get it done this year, they can go outside or promote Brady.  

[GunnerBill]

20 minutes ago, Chaos said:

Historically they are viewed as joined at the hip ( a crazy concept to me, but a popularly held view) .   On the offensive side of the ball, its not clear any teams in the league have a better oline, QB, skills player combination.  While I don't love Joe Brady in the clutch, the Bills did lead the league in points per drive this season.  I don't really know that from a pure productivity standpoint we can improve from our number 1 position. (note Bills and Ravens gapped out from the pack, and both were about 40% above league average)

 

They are joined at the hip. But at the moment if there is something driving me to move on it is their personnel decision making not their coaching decision making. On the bolded I just disagree. Our skill players on offense are still at best middle of the league and if you take Cook out then well below that. They performed as they did in year because Josh and Joe raised the level. As Beane always says how you lose your last game shows your weaknesses, ours are when we need to go downfield aggressively we find it a challenge. 

[Chaos]

7 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said:

I think McD is 100% coming back

He is definitely coming back. This is a hypothetical discussion. I think he will have Jeff Fisher level longevity with the team. 

[wppete]

Its tine for a change or McDermott gets a couple of Assistant head coaches to help him run this team

and focus on being a defensive coordinator that got him this job or a change is needed at HC and all staff. 

[Chaos]

3 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

 

They are joined at the hip. But at the moment if there is something driving me to move on it is their personnel decision making not their coaching decision making. On the bolded I just disagree. Our skill players on offense are still at best middle of the league and if you take Cook out then well below that. They performed as they did in year because Josh and Joe raised the level. As Beane always says how you lose your last game shows your weaknesses, ours are when we need to go downfield aggressively we find it a challenge. 

Well, I am not sure why we take cook out.  If you take Henry out the Ravens, decline, if you Barkley out the Eagles decline.  

Which teams do you think have a better combo of Oline, QBing and Skill players.  It is not clear to me, but it seems to be clear to you. I am willing to be convinced. 

[T.E.]

3 hours ago, K D said:

Josh Allen is the QB. Every coach in the world would want to coach him. The Bills could have their pick. Coaches that win it all are usually a genius on at least one side of the ball. We have literally lost because of McDermott's defense so he does not check that box as well as he is not good at situational football. What does he bring to the table then?

Chiefs didn't score 30 all year long. We score 29 against them and it isn't enough. LMAO.

[Alphadawg7]

3 minutes ago, Chaos said:

He is definitely coming back. This is a hypothetical discussion. I think he will have Jeff Fisher level longevity with the team. 

Jeff Fisher…gross.  He better be on the hot seat this year 

[Since1981]

My theory is A-Team Coaching gets you +3 in playoffs. Certainly Cinci is not on the coach system but the others? 

 

2017,Jacksonville -7
2019,Houston -3
2020, KC,-14
2021,KC,-6
2022,Cinci -17
2023,KC -3

2024, KC -3

The A-Team coaches would jump at BUF now. The franchise is not the same as when McD arrived. YES KUDOS to them for the turnaround but he’s not the guy for situational or top tier. 

[DrDawkinstein]

23 minutes ago, Billz4ever said:

 

Heck, I want lots of things but I like to keep it to things that are within the realm of possibility.  I get this was another gut-wrenching loss in the McD era, but we need to keep it real. He's not going anywhere and we need to be thinking about what can actually be done to win and get over the hump. 

 

Well, nothing we say on this fan message board matters or affects anything really. We dont need to be thinking realistically since message board chatter isnt reality.