Coaching Poll

[Buffalo_Stampede]

7 minutes ago, Trust The Process said:

In 4 playoff losses vs the KC Refs, McD’s defenses have allowed a whopping average of 34 points per game. McD is a defensive coach, and since he can’t do that right, he needs to go. 

Going back to 2021 when Allen caught up to Mahomes the Chiefs average 27 ppg vs everyone else in the playoffs. Yikes.😬 

That’s a pretty big difference.

 

Bills should’ve told Lou Anarumo to wait. I would’ve hired him as DC.

 

Edited Monday at 02:18 PM by Buffalo_Stampede

[BuffaloBillsGospel2014]

I picked "Team has gone stale, coach is good, but we need a change".

 

I just feel like McDermott is a great human being but has taken us as far as we're going to go. I want an offensive minded HC who would bring in a n excellent DC because I cannot stand watching this 2 high shell abomination defense any longer. 

[jaybee]

30 minutes ago, Back2Buff said:

The thing that makes my blood boil is that I know Bill Belichick would win a Super Bowl with Josh Allen.  I just know Bill would have answers in the biggest games.

 

McDermott should have been fired last year when Bill became available.  

Can't argue that.  McD has become the modern day Marty Schottenheimer of Western NY. 

 

Its a very good team but we've gone as far as we're gonna go under his leadership.

[Buffalo_Stampede]

Other was my vote.

 

Losing by 3 to KC in the playoffs is not a fireable offense.

[PBF81]

It's both laughable and idiotic to think that if we were to change coaches that all of a sudden we'd be an 8-9/9-8 team with Allen at QB in this sorry division as it's been.  

 

This team was 8-8/9-7 several times, and on the playoff bubble, with hot garage at QB and coaches that never did a thing;  Taylor, Orton, Bledsoe & Ryan, Marrone, Mularkey.

 

All in a division with Brady perennially winning it.  

 

It's pretty inconceivable how the D could be any worse in the playoffs.  But if you're measuring stick is the Regular Season that won't matter.  

 

McD was a notch above being a .500 coach before Allen went into gear.  (25-23).  He was a miserable 0-2 in the playoffs with losses to Marrone and O'Brien, .388 and .520 respectively.  People forget that there was a lot of talk about him being fired then.  

 

Enter Allen!

 

It's quite possible that Allen has made McD.  In fact, someone recently posted an article from The Athletic here about Allen's rise to greatness.  There wasn't one significant shred in it involving McD.

 

All that said, McD isn't going anywhere, we all know that Pegula's never going to make that change.  When Allen's gone McD will revert to the .500 coach he was destined to be without Allen, much like Marrone and some of the others we've had traipse through here during the drought years.  

 

 

Edited Monday at 03:48 PM by PBF81

[BananaB]

Only way to get to where you want is to get over that hump and beat KC when it matters most. MCD has had 4 cracks at it and nothing seems to be changing. Also think any coach could win with Josh Allen, just a matter to what extent. Maybe you take a few steps back, chance are we ain’t going back to being irrelevant as long as he is taking snaps. 

[Bferra13]

1 hour ago, oldmanfan said:

If I was going to make a theoretical change of our HC, I would explore a trade with the Steelers to get Tomlin.

Might as well save the pick and get fat Mike then. Literally have the same resume. In fact, I believe McCarthy has a slightly higher win%.

 

Neither of those guys are the solution.

 

[Einstein]

I’m surprised by all the McD hate today. Mainly because I don’t think he did anything yesterday deserving of it.

[jkeerie]

I think McD is good...but he's too loyal to certain players, certain coaches and certain schemes.  I'd like to see them go a different way defensively.  Bills need size on the D.  Josh said it yesterday.  KC had big guys that stopped the Bills on a play that hadn't been stopped.  Bills are too small and injury prone as a result.  Get a different D coordinator and scheme. 

Offensively, Brady gets inconsistent at the wrong times.  The Bills running game was the reason they got as far as they did this year, yet where was it in the first half and where was Cook on that last series?  Stop trying to overthink it.

Finally, Special teams needs a new coach.  Too many mistakes this year.

[zow2]

You have the wrong owner if you want a coaching change.  This is a man who own an NHL team...who changes coaches all the time and he sees the longest drought in NHL history.   

 

On the other side he has one of the winningest coaches ever and they make the playoffs every year,,,i don't think this owner is making drastic changes.  He's traumatized from the hockey team and won't mess with the Bills.

[davefan66]

It depends who is available TBH. If Andy Reid, Payton or McVay were available, that would be an upgrade for sure.  Anyone else? Don’t see it as an upgrade.

 

Issue is. This team is tooled for the coaching styles/schemes of our coaches, especially defense.  Could see a regression based on the need to change out players to fit schemes.

[Billz4ever]

I'm in the boat that says if Pegula fires McD (which isn't going to happen) who are we replacing him with?  What established coach is out there you want to bring in and is a good fit for the Bills?  Nobody that I'm aware of.  We'd be rolling the dice on guy with little to no HC experience hoping he works out.

Edited Monday at 03:11 PM by Billz4ever

[Brianmoorman4jesus]

It’s way to many ways to say the same thing. The coach brought us where he can. And truly, he’s just dragged us down like an anchor. Allen and the offense wins despite his horrendous defense every year. Get rid of the guy if you care about winning. We CANT win with this Guys defense. Get rid of him or we won’t win

[SoMAn]

Josh is great, though he has his moments when he reverts to sugar high Josh. He can't carry the whole team into and winning a super bowl. In my opinion, McDermott has done just about all he can with a fairly average roster, with the exceptions of QB1, RB1 and The nickel. The LBs and O-line are decent enough, though not always dominant.

 

They have nobody on their D-line that opposing offenses need to have a special game plan for. Their WR group is serviceable, but there's nobody that puts fear in the secondary of their opponents. 

 

Say what you want about McDermott's record, but it's still better than almost every other coach besides Reid.  In a 'transition year' in which the team wasn't expected to hit double digit wins by most prognosticators, it's to the coach's credit that they beat both defending conference champions along with the Lions, who were practically unbeatable at the time, on their way to a 13 win season. Would have been 14 if they played as if they cared against the Pats.

 

As I've questioned too many times in this debate, who would you tag for McDermott's replacement that would be a fair bet to yield better results? The coaching landscape is littered with 'can't-miss' coordinators who crashed and burned and wasted several years on the fans' watch while they had their on the job training.  I don't care to pin my hopes on a first time head coach.  

 

McDermott and Allen will get there eventually. They still need a few more playmakers and a couple of holes to fill on the roster. 

Edited Monday at 03:17 PM by SoMAn

[DrDawkinstein]

I'm somewhere in between "Change is low risk, most NFL caliber coaches will win the weak" and "Team has gone stale, coach is good, but we need a change".

 

It's our division for at least the next 3 years. McD can't get over the hump. He's a very good coach that will get another job quickly, and have some success there (most likely getting a basement dweller back into a Wild Card spot). But he isnt getting it done here, against the Chiefs in the playoffs.

 

0-4 now. With at least 2 of those being directly on coaching. How many more tries does he get?

 

Let Beane reload this year with the better cap situation and then...?

[Chaos]

1 hour ago, Mister Defense said:

Come on, Chaos!  You're better than that...

 

Such an awful poll, options, clearly designed to be ultra negative, with comically worded choices for those who feel differently than you.

 

You have created a hater thread here, and that is what it will become.

i dont understand your point.  Two of the eight options are for retaining the coach.  One of the two for removing the coach (currently the most popular selection ) includes "coach is good"

[DrDawkinstein]

4 minutes ago, Billz4ever said:

I'm in the boat that says if Pegula fires McD (which isn't going to happen) who are we replacing him with?  What established coach is out there you want to bring in and is a good fit for the Bills?  Nobody that I'm aware of.  We'd be rolling the dice on guy with little to no HC experience hoping he works out.

 

This is not a reason to keep McD.

 

Most folks who make the "But who will replace him?" argument had NO IDEA who Sean McDermott was the day we fired Rex.

[Chaos]

Just now, DrDawkinstein said:

 

This is not a reason to keep McD.

 

Most folks who make the "But who will replace him?" argument had NO IDEA who Sean McDermott was the day we fired Rex.

I agree with this.  I also agree with "if the top end of the available market is Aaron Glenn, Joe Brady and Brian Shottenheimer", then I am probably keeping McDermott. 

[DrDawkinstein]

Just now, Chaos said:

I agree with this.  I also agree with "if the top end of the available market is Aaron Glenn, Joe Brady and Brian Shottenheimer", then I am probably keeping McDermott. 

 

I'm pissed we missed out on making the change last year and nabbing Vrabel.

 

I'm almost to the point where I want to just promote Brady to HC. Wonder if that could be the move after next season...

[Billz4ever]

5 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said:

 

This is not a reason to keep McD.

 

Most folks who make the "But who will replace him?" argument had NO IDEA who Sean McDermott was the day we fired Rex.

 

So who are we hiring?  Throw darts at a dart board? If you're going to can McD it's because you think someone else can do better. Who is that person?

Edited Monday at 03:21 PM by Billz4ever