Real Story behind the Buffalo Bills playoff woes. Josh Allen has every right to be Mad.

[LABILLBACKER]

Terry Pegula is too terrified to fire Sean.  Josh is too much of a nice guy to ask for a much needed change. Sean is too stubborn of a control freak to ever change his defensive scheme. This is the definition of insanity.  Doing the same thing every year and expecting different results. 

Wash

Rinse

Repeat....

 

.......for the last 8 years of Josh's career.  I said after 13s that you can't come back from such legendary moronic decisions. We will never go to a SB under McDermott in the Mahomes era.  

[Kelly to Allen]

1 hour ago, LABILLBACKER said:

Terry Pegula is too terrified to fire Sean.  Josh is too much of a nice guy to ask for a much needed change. Sean is too stubborn of a control freak to ever change his defensive scheme. This is the definition of insanity.  Doing the same thing every year and expecting different results. 

Wash

Rinse

Repeat....

 

.......for the last 8 years of Josh's career.  I said after 13s that you can't come back from such legendary moronic decisions. We will never go to a SB under McDermott in the Mahomes era.  

 

 

This is sadly the most obvious Truth but ppl are pretending like oh it was different this year. What was different lol

 

The defense was avg mostly in the regular season. We still can't get a real pass rusher and the defense was historically bad in the playoffs again. 

 

Like so the answer is let's load up more resources on defense again, Sean then won't play them because of their inexperience as rookies and they'll get torched again in the playoffs. Oh and the 3rd down defense will be a joke 

 

I hate that ppl think we made progress this year lol. Yeah we got a real OC that actually used a scheme to open up things but he's going to be gone in a year or two. Then what? 

 

 

 

 

Edited yesterday at 08:29 AM by Kelly to Allen

[UKBillFan]

4 hours ago, 90sBills said:

It doesn’t matter what the score was. Game situations and context are more important. You can’t expect the defense to shut down a great offense with an elite QB. We can only hope to contain them enough to give the offense a reasonable chance of winning.

 

Yes the defense gave up 32. That’s a good thing at that point of the game. It wasn’t 36. We had 29. So the offense gets the ball back with 3 min left and a chance to win with a TD. Or the very least tie with a fg. This is the essence of a team game. KC’s defense do this all the time. Hold their opponents to within 1 score so Mahomes and their offense could win it in the waning minutes. And Mahomes usually comes through for them. That’s why they’re so good with close games. 
 

Our defense did that for the offense. Provided an opportunity for Allen and the offense to win. That’s all we could hope for. It just didn’t work out. So yes. Great job, defense! Especially Phillips with that clutch sack!

 

Shame they didn't turn up like every other defense against the Chiefs this season. All but one kept them to a score in regulation which would have seen the Bills win with 29 on Sunday. And that one was the Panthers.

 

I understand what you're saying about situation football but I'm not going to accept the defense was good enough throughout the game. It wasn't and it cost us. 

[billsfan714]

Andy Reid HC better than Sean McDermott

Andy Reid (calls the plays) better than Joe Brady

Spagnola DC better than Babich/Sean

Brett Veach better than Beane

 

I really don't think you can make a case that the above isn't true.

[Pete]

2 hours ago, LABILLBACKER said:

Terry Pegula is too terrified to fire Sean.  Josh is too much of a nice guy to ask for a much needed change. Sean is too stubborn of a control freak to ever change his defensive scheme. This is the definition of insanity.  Doing the same thing every year and expecting different results. 

Wash

Rinse

Repeat....

 

.......for the last 8 years of Josh's career.  I said after 13s that you can't come back from such legendary moronic decisions. We will never go to a SB under McDermott in the Mahomes era.  

Im too terrified to fire Sean.  Do you know how many 2-14 season the Bills had prior to the draught?   Do you recognize Sean shaped the Bills culture, and it’s real.   Do the names Hank Bullough, Kay Stevenson, Matt Kofler mean anything to you? Before we could not sniff a FA, let alone entice them to Buffalo.  Al Davis used to threaten his player that he was going to trade them to Buffalo.  Do you realize the national perception is that these Bills are Goliath?  That the Bills are the most popular team in the world?  We have come a long way baby!  And we are just getting going!

 

GO BILLS!

[GunnerBill]

1 hour ago, UKBillFan said:

 

Shame they didn't turn up like every other defense against the Chiefs this season. All but one kept them to a score in regulation which would have seen the Bills win with 29 on Sunday. And that one was the Panthers.

 

I understand what you're saying about situation football but I'm not going to accept the defense was good enough throughout the game. It wasn't and it cost us. 

 

It definitely wasn't. But that's two years in a row the offense has had the ball at the end with a chance to score a touchdown to win and failed to get it done. The defense has to be better, it has to be better than it was all season this year to be honest with you. But when you have elite Quarterbacks and you have the ball at the end in these playoff games it is supposed to be inevitable and for the Bills, it hasn't been. And my view is the reason for that is that in those high leverage moments it isn't about scheme. You can't win with clever. It's about your guys vs theirs. And when Josh drops back to pass..... what is going on downfield is their players are winning the 1 on 1s. The Bills HAVE to get better at the skill positions. They do not have enough. 

 

The downside is I see fewer ways to fix that on offense this offseason than I do to fix the defense. This is a better defensive draft than offensive and the Bills have a chance to get two difference makers on the defensive line. 

[uticaclub]

1 hour ago, Pete said:

Im too terrified to fire Sean.  Do you know how many 2-14 season the Bills had prior to the draught?   Do you recognize Sean shaped the Bills culture, and it’s real.   Do the names Hank Bullough, Kay Stevenson, Matt Kofler mean anything to you? Before we could not sniff a FA, let alone entice them to Buffalo.  Al Davis used to threaten his player that he was going to trade them to Buffalo.  Do you realize the national perception is that these Bills are Goliath?  That the Bills are the most popular team in the world?  We have come a long way baby!  And we are just getting going!

 

GO BILLS!

You aren’t going 2-14 with Josh Allen on your team & you aren't making a Super Bowl with Sean McDermott & Brandon Beane leading your team.

[Pete]

1 minute ago, uticaclub said:

You aren’t going 2-14 with Josh Allen on your team & you aren't making a Super Bowl with Sean McDermott & Brandon Beane leading your team.

no *****.  But the scars are there.  Josh loves the lockerroom.  Get rig of Sean, change the lockerroom, you might piss off Josh

[uticaclub]

3 minutes ago, Pete said:

no *****.  But the scars are there.  Josh loves the lockerroom.  Get rig of Sean, change the lockerroom, you might piss off Josh

Don’t change anything, keep doing the same thing and never making a Super Bowl will piss off Josh too. You can't be a defensive minded coached with a 31st ranked 3rd down defense

Edited yesterday at 12:21 PM by uticaclub

[Pete]

14 minutes ago, uticaclub said:

Don’t change anything, keep doing the same thing and never making a Super Bowl will piss off Josh too. You can't be a defensive minded coached with a 31st ranked 3rd down defense

I placate Josh.  I get him WRs who can separate!  WRs that can run full route tree!  WRs who catch the ball!  I extend Josh and make him highest paid player!   I give Josh  a great locker room, and everything he needs to succeed. 

If you have a problem with 3rd down defense(we all do)- then that is on Babich.

The past two years, the offense was on the field, last drive, and the offense had a chance to beat the Chiefs.  No matter how bad the defense played, the offense had a chance to win the last two playoff losses to the Chefs.  Give Josh legitimate WRs and we win the SuperBowl!

Edited yesterday at 12:32 PM by Pete

[uticaclub]

6 minutes ago, Pete said:

I placate Josh.  I get him WRs who can separate!  WRs that can run full route tree!  WRs who catch the ball!  I extend Josh and make him highest paid player!   I give Josh  a great locker room, and everything he needs to succeed. 

If you have a problem with 3rd down defense(we all do)- then that is on Babich.

The past two years, the offense was on the field, last drive, and the offense had a chance to beat the Chiefs.  No matter how bad the defense played, the offense had a chance to win the last two playoff losses to the Chefs.  Give Josh legitimate WRs and we win the SuperBowl!

Look at all the bums at WR we’ve added since we signed Brown & Beasley. I have 0% faith that we add the WR talent needed to make a Super Bowl. The fact that we ended up with Coleman in that last draft class should tell you all you need to know about WR evaluation. The best signing was Mack Hollins and he's more of a special team guy.

 

Even without WRs, James Cook was unstoppable and he doesn't see the field in the 4th quarter. This team is not winning built, coached and managed the way it is.

[Steptide]

Honest question, for those saying fire McDermott and Beane, who would you replace them with that's available? 

[Saint Doug]

The bad part is that firing McD wouldn’t fix the problems. We have spent the last 5 years drafting players with a very specific skill set and physique. Maybe the national media was right, we are too small. Everyone except Josh. 
 

If we fired McD to get a different DC or even fired Babich, we would need to overhaul the players on the D side to fit the new scheme. That may be worse than running it back. 

[Don Otreply]

Sean is unable to come to grips with the fact that his defensive scheme just doesn’t work, he rolls out the same failed scheme every season “thinking” , this time it will be different…,

 

…, and as we all know it won’t be different…, Sean needs to aggressively change what he is doing or graciously step aside, (which has it’s own ramifications)

Nothing but respect for how he changed this team for the better, but it’s like QB purgatory, but in our case its HC purgatory, 

 

GO BILLS!!!

Edited yesterday at 01:31 PM by Don Otreply

[T master]

On 1/26/2025 at 11:39 PM, Drewski said:

We did make stops on defense. Most importantly, that last chiefs FG where Allen had a chance to win on the last drive. 

 

And if the refs would have seen that the ball hit the ground on that pass to Worthy they would have only had 3 not 7 then there's that . 

[frostbitmic]

5 hours ago, Pete said:

I placate Josh.  I get him WRs who can separate!  WRs that can run full route tree!  WRs who catch the ball!  I extend Josh and make him highest paid player!   I give Josh  a great locker room, and everything he needs to succeed. 

If you have a problem with 3rd down defense(we all do)- then that is on Babich.

The past two years, the offense was on the field, last drive, and the offense had a chance to beat the Chiefs.  No matter how bad the defense played, the offense had a chance to win the last two playoff losses to the Chefs.  Give Josh legitimate WRs and we win the SuperBowl!

I somewhat disagree with this point. Babich has been DC for a year now and this 3rd down problem has been going on for years, It's a McD issue more than his co-ordinator IMO.

 

 

Edited 23 hours ago by frostbitmic

[ChronicAndKnuckles]

On 1/27/2025 at 12:32 AM, HaldimandBills said:

Since 2000, teams with 4+ TDs and 0 Turnovers in a playoff game are 59-3 

The three losses 

Bills vs. Chiefs in the 2024 AFC Championship
Bills vs. Chiefs in the 2021 Divisional Round
Chiefs vs. Patriots in the 2018 AFC Championship

 

Josh Allen has 25 tds and 4 turnovers in 13 playoff games. 

 

Bills defense have now surrendered 38, 42, 27, and 32 points in all four of their losses to the Chiefs. What makes this STAT most alarming is each one of those scores was the most points the Chiefs scored that year in the playoffs. 

 

Bills have a defense issue and it is painfully obvious they will never win until this is addressed. Allen basically has to come out slinging immediately because his defense does not give him time to breathe. I've watched Mahomes, Brady, Burrow, Manning all struggle early in games only to win because their defense made multiple stops in the first half. Bills defense have serious problems against elite competition and this is year 5 of this mess. 

The funny thing is we allowed MORE points this year against the Chiefs our star LB core in tact. I really thought Milano and Bernard especially would make a big difference. I was terribly wrong 

[Pete]

3 minutes ago, ChronicAndKnuckles said:

The funny thing is we allowed MORE points this year against the Chiefs our star LB core in tact. I really thought Milano and Bernard especially would make a big difference. I was terribly wrong 

our secondary failed us mostly

[zow2]

I'm still having a rough time dealing with the fact, our offense had the ball late two years in a row vs KC.  We had a chance to score the game leading or game winning TD in back to back playoffs vs Mahomes/Reid.   And what happened?  The Bills got ZERO points.  Two seasons, final drives game on the line.  ZERO points.  That is the opposite of clutch.

[ChronicAndKnuckles]

5 hours ago, uticaclub said:

Look at all the bums at WR we’ve added since we signed Brown & Beasley. I have 0% faith that we add the WR talent needed to make a Super Bowl. The fact that we ended up with Coleman in that last draft class should tell you all you need to know about WR evaluation. The best signing was Mack Hollins and he's more of a special team guy.

 

Even without WRs, James Cook was unstoppable and he doesn't see the field in the 4th quarter. This team is not winning built, coached and managed the way it is.

Dude, Coleman was a rookie. People are so impatient in the social media age. He’s a 2nd rounder, not a top 10 pick expected to make an immediate impact. I thought it was common knowledge that year 3 is typically when WRs break out. He’s shown some great flashes which is what you should see out of a rookie. I was impressed with his game against the Titans, it was a good display of his physicality. People tend to equate athleticism w/ pure speed which is only one aspect. I honestly think he makes a big jump in year 2. He certainly impressed me much more than Dalton Kincaid.