Real Story behind the Buffalo Bills playoff woes. Josh Allen has every right to be Mad.

[Chicken Boo]

1 hour ago, GoBills808 said:

allow me

 

we are a top scoring offense that got held under our season avg by a dominant performance from KC defense

 

meanwhile our defense allowed the most points a mediocre Chiefs offense scored all season in an atrocious display

 

The most points...

 

The Chiefs scored 26 or more points 9x this season.  

 

Are you all really hanging on to this?

[Sargent Hulka]

12 hours ago, HaldimandBills said:

Since 2000, teams with 4+ TDs and 0 Turnovers in a playoff game are 59-3 

The three losses 

Bills vs. Chiefs in the 2024 AFC Championship
Bills vs. Chiefs in the 2021 Divisional Round
Chiefs vs. Patriots in the 2018 AFC Championship

 

Josh Allen has 25 tds and 4 turnovers in 13 playoff games. 

 

Bills defense have now surrendered 38, 42, 27, and 32 points in all four of their losses to the Chiefs. What makes this STAT most alarming is each one of those scores was the most points the Chiefs scored that year in the playoffs. 

 

Bills have a defense issue and it is painfully obvious they will never win until this is addressed. Allen basically has to come out slinging immediately because his defense does not give him time to breathe. I've watched Mahomes, Brady, Burrow, Manning all struggle early in games only to win because their defense made multiple stops in the first half. Bills defense have serious problems against elite competition and this is year 5 of this mess. 

This is one hundred percent on Beane. He is ridiculously overrated as a GM.

[BillMafia716ix]

23 minutes ago, Real McClappy said:

You could say having all 3 timeouts left before the 2 min warning that the D needs a crucial stop to get Allen back the ball for a TD or FG attempt, no?

 

Which the unit failed at. 

Thats a cop out answer. Josh and Joe didn’t get it done. Plain and simple 

[Man with No Name]

35 minutes ago, DrBob806 said:

The 49ers are hot & cold.

 

Kyle Shanahan is a brilliant offensive mind, but c'mon man he's 70-62, traded 3 #1s for Trey Lance, lucked out on Purdy. He's not as "genius" as made out to be. He also was culpable in the Falcons blowing a 28-3 lead in the SB.

not saying it's a better situation than we have. but it's near home for josh. and it's a change of scenery if that's ever something he decides to look for. fingers crossed he wants to be here for life and finish what he started. but i couldn't be mad at him if he decided to try something different at some point. 

[MJS]

The Bills stopped the Chiefs and gave the ball back to Josh Allen and the offense to go win it with 3 minutes left. And they didn't do it. The defense got a turnover. They had multiple stops. They held them to 3 in the red zone a couple of times. I think the Bills offense needed to do a little bit more. They continually got stuffed on their QB sneak plays and scrambles. They didn't adjust. They didn't try anything too aggressive.

 

We knew the Bills defense was not great. They performed as well as could be expected, in my opinion. There were also a couple of critical calls by refs that really helped the Chiefs, including the turnover on downs that Josh Allen clearly converted.

[JP51]

  despite the obvious cheating by the ref's , the inept coaching, the terrible defense, bad play calling... bad drafting and all of these things that we contribute this loss too... Maybe he is simply mad because he had the ball in his hands with a few minutes left and could have led a game winning drive that ended it all.. and didnt... if I were him thats what I would be mad at... no 13 seconds... no stupid coin flip, no bass missing a FG all with him on the sidelines... the game ended with him having a chance to end the speculation... and it unfortunately didnt happen... I certainly dont want him to be happy... he has to feel as angry as us times 10... 

[BullBuchanan]

13 hours ago, UKBillFan said:

 

After leaking 32 points. Well done, defense. Great job.

KC leaked 29 points to us. Is that significantly better? Had we scored at the end of the game, it would have been 32 or 35. Should our defense be held to a higher standard than theirs?

The defense had many many flaws last night, BUT

They held kelce to 2/19
They held the top two running backs under 4 yards a carry
They did not allow a 100 yard receiver.
They forced a fumble

I don't expect much more of a defense against the best QB and playcaller in the sport.

Edited Monday at 06:52 PM by BullBuchanan

[Brianmoorman4jesus]

You just got to score on every possession. It’s incredible. What we ask of josh Allen is ridiculous. Score 29 against THAT defense and our POS defense gets run over again. And people have the balls to put 1 ounce of this on the offense. It’s insane. The offense has lost us exactly 1 playoff games in the McDermott era. The Jags game with Tyrod. That’s it. This coach ***** sucks

[Buffalo4Life01]

28 minutes ago, BillMafia716ix said:

Thats a cop out answer. Josh and Joe didn’t get it done. Plain and simple 

yep, and Kincaid and Brady and the offensive line.  

Edited Monday at 06:56 PM by Buffalo4Life01

[UKBillFan]

3 minutes ago, BullBuchanan said:

KC leaked 29 points to us. Is that significantly better? Had we scored at the end of the game, it would have been 32 or 35. Should our defense be held to a higher standard than theirs?

The defense had many many flaws last night, BUT

They held kelce to 2/19
They held the top two running backs under 4 yards a carry
They did not allow a 100 yard receiver.
They forced a fumble

I don't expect much more of a defense against the best QB and playcaller in the sport.

 

The defense made key stops when needed. What did the Bills defense do? Like when they had the chance to get the offense off the field on three and out at the end? The game wasn't necessarily over on the Kincaid drop until the Chiefs exposed the weaknesses once again, like they have done before. Like so many teams have before.

I do think Josh is partially responsible for yesterday. He wasn't at his very best, but it's hard to be against a defense as strong as the Chiefs. The fact the Bills got to 29 has a lot to do with him; most other teams would have been blown out on yesterday's performance on defense and offense. And that's why I believe he should be near the bottom of the list when it comes to blame.

[Ed_Formerly_of_Roch]

13 hours ago, UKBillFan said:

 

After leaking 32 points. Well done, defense. Great job.

 

If you look at most defensive stats KC defense was better than Bills over the entire season .  So if leaking 32 points is so bad, then was leaking 29 by KC any better?  Did you think the Bills defense was going to shut out the Chiefs?

 

The bigger issue to me in this game was the two stops and 4th down, missed two point conversions, plus two 3 and outs in first half, repeatedly running same play on offense that wasn't working.

[DabillsDaBillsDaBills]

1 hour ago, Drewski said:

I'm not saying our defense didn't play poorly but don't act like the offense didn't struggle. It's a team sport 

 

I think we have a pretty warped view on here of what a good offense looks like.

 

29 points scored without turning the ball over is a fantastic game by the offense. No short fields either.

 

It's easily the best performance by an offense in a loss in this years playoffs. 

[UKBillFan]

2 minutes ago, Ed_Formerly_of_Roch said:

 

If you look at most defensive stats KC defense was better than Bills over the entire season .  So if leaking 32 points is so bad, then was leaking 29 by KC any better?  Did you think the Bills defense was going to shut out the Chiefs?

 

The bigger issue to me in this game was the two stops and 4th down, missed two point conversions, plus two 3 and outs in first half, repeatedly running same play on offense that wasn't working.

 

The Chiefs had only scored 30 once in regulation all season. So, yes, letting them score 32 is hardly impressive. Whereas the Chiefs have only allowed one team to score more than 27 on them in the same time period, excluding the week 18 backup blowout. And the majority of those points were Josh making superb plays with very little support mainly, as you say, down to play calls but also execution.

[colin]

mahomes had the highest success rate per drop back last night OF HIS CAREER.  no one has allowed him easier first downs in any nfl game he has ever played than our d did last night.  the sucked balls and they gotta change.

 

beane and mcd have built and coach a putrid awful d.  they don't just fold vs good teams, they literally allow good qbs their best and easiest game every single playoffs.  mcd farting around, using the tush push over and over including on a 2 point attempt after we could see it wasn't working is nasty work.  if we just kick the extra points and run cook we win that game in the face of all the rest of it.

 

two rookie no resume no accomplishment coordinators under mcd is not a way to beat kc.

[MJS]

1 hour ago, JP51 said:

  despite the obvious cheating by the ref's , the inept coaching, the terrible defense, bad play calling... bad drafting and all of these things that we contribute this loss too... Maybe he is simply mad because he had the ball in his hands with a few minutes left and could have led a game winning drive that ended it all.. and didnt... if I were him thats what I would be mad at... no 13 seconds... no stupid coin flip, no bass missing a FG all with him on the sidelines... the game ended with him having a chance to end the speculation... and it unfortunately didnt happen... I certainly dont want him to be happy... he has to feel as angry as us times 10... 

Amazing how bad coaching, bad playcalling, bad drafting, terrible defense, and terrible reffing all got the Bills to within 3 points of beating the best team in football who is now competing for their 3rd straight superbowl title. How does that work exactly?

[JP51]

9 minutes ago, MJS said:

Amazing how bad coaching, bad playcalling, bad drafting, terrible defense, and terrible reffing all got the Bills to within 3 points of beating the best team in football who is now competing for their 3rd straight superbowl title. How does that work exactly?

Well I was encapsulating all of the takes I read on the board that were speculating why he might be upset or have the right to be angry... and simply saying that maybe if he was mad he was probably mad he had a chance to get it done but didnt... if you are asking me how that works I feel like its pretty simple... he is a competitive player... he wants to win ... he didnt get it done... so he is mad... and I think that is better than him being happy...  If you are asking me about every other posters take on why he might be mad, I have no idea... I told you why I thought he was upset. He is not the type to blame others and demand changes he tends to look at himself.   

Edited Monday at 08:07 PM by JP51

[BuffaL0L0k0]

12 hours ago, LABILLBACKER said:

I realize Josh is the ultimate "good soldier".  He will never throw a coach or teammate under the bus.  But for the first time ever after these playoff losing pressers, I saw anger in his eyes.  If Sean doesn't get his defensive Shi# together real soon, I could see JA gone someday down the road. And I wouldn't blame him.

Talking "JA gone down the road..." do you, or anyone reading this and who wants to chime, see him pulling a "Jumbotron" or Barry move and retiring on his (left) prime year...?

[Best Williams Available]

I agree with the OPs sentiment. But it’s doubly frustrating when opposing QBs essentially have to have the game of their season to beat you AND they always do!!! See yesterday and LA Rams.

 

The theory of McD’s D doesn’t match its practice and pairs poorly with our offensive philosophy. If you really distill down why it’s likely due to piss poor DL play throughout his tenure. They have not hit on the DL yet despite throwing a ton of assets there. It’s killing them.

[Ed_Formerly_of_Roch]

1 hour ago, UKBillFan said:

 

The Chiefs had only scored 30 once in regulation all season. So, yes, letting them score 32 is hardly impressive. Whereas the Chiefs have only allowed one team to score more than 27 on them in the same time period, excluding the week 18 backup blowout. And the majority of those points were Josh making superb plays with very little support mainly, as you say, down to play calls but also execution.

 

I think in hindsight KC all season was maybe sleepwalking through many of the games and would just play well enough to win.  But could have done more if/when needed.  And when they did need to step up their game yesterday, they did.

 

Add to that one of the narratives of last weeks Ravens game was many Bills players were out for the 1st game, the same was true for KC in the November match up.  And while we had some players out in November, think KC had more overall talent missing than we did.

[Best Williams Available]

14 hours ago, DabillsDaBillsDaBills said:

Has any athlete, across any sport, been let down by their team as much as Josh Allen has? 

 

Josh has 9 TDs and 0 turnovers in the last 3 playoff losses to the Chiefs. 

 

Bills DEF has forced 5 punts and 2 turnovers over those 3 games. 

Barry Sanders