Real Story behind the Buffalo Bills playoff woes. Josh Allen has every right to be Mad.

[Trogdor]

7 hours ago, SCBills said:

Tonight is the first time ever, that i’ve wondered if he’d contemplate leaving Buffalo.  
 

I think we’d have a head coaching change first… at least I hope it would if McDermott continues on this path. 

 

California kid with a soon to be Hollywood wife. Why would you lose in Buffalo when you could go home?

[peterpan]

8 minutes ago, All_Pro_Bills said:

 

 

Everything they did was well scouted and predictable.

Who is ‘they’ in your post?  I’m not sure if you are referring to our D or their D or our O….?

[All_Pro_Bills]

1 minute ago, peterpan said:

Who is ‘they’ in your post?  I’m not sure if you are referring to our D or their D or our O….?

In this case I was referring to the offense.

[BearNorth]

7 hours ago, uticaclub said:

He is replacing Stafford 100% 

He and Hallie are both California people, just saying. Shanahan or McVay would both love to have him I'm sure.

[Cotton Fitzsimmons]

6 hours ago, 90sBills said:

Tonight I watched Allen came out nervous and jittery to start the game while Mahomes was sharp from the get go to give KC the early lead. Then Allen had a chance to win the game at the end and couldn’t. It’s not all defense. It’s a team loss. 

Agreed… the defense is never good enough in these spots. But, Allen didn’t play his best in any of the playoff games, and as you said he looked like 2019 Josh at the beginning of the game. 
 

When we play the Ravens and Chiefs, their defense makes everything difficult. The problem is likely that we need different players and scheme.

[Chicken Boo]

Flawed argument as the Chiefs also give up a good amount of points to the Bills.  These games aren't blowouts and aside from 2020, they've all come down to the final drive.  

 

You think this is bad, go look at what Rodgers defenses did to him in GB during the post season.  They gave up an average of 33.5ppg and they weren't playing Reid and Mahomes's Chiefs every game.  

Edited Monday at 01:35 PM by Chicken Boo

[Lou from CT]

8 hours ago, HaldimandBills said:

Since 2000, teams with 4+ TDs and 0 Turnovers in a playoff game are 59-3 

The three losses 

Bills vs. Chiefs in the 2024 AFC Championship
Bills vs. Chiefs in the 2021 Divisional Round
Chiefs vs. Patriots in the 2018 AFC Championship

 

Josh Allen has 25 tds and 4 turnovers in 13 playoff games. 

 

Bills defense have now surrendered 38, 42, 27, and 32 points in all four of their losses to the Chiefs. What makes this STAT most alarming is each one of those scores was the most points the Chiefs scored that year in the playoffs. 

 

Bills have a defense issue and it is painfully obvious they will never win until this is addressed. Allen basically has to come out slinging immediately because his defense does not give him time to breathe. I've watched Mahomes, Brady, Burrow, Manning all struggle early in games only to win because their defense made multiple stops in the first half. Bills defense have serious problems against elite competition and this is year 5 of this mess. 

 

[Sharky7337]

7 hours ago, LABILLBACKER said:

Sean is Andy's bit ch

 

Just now, Sharky7337 said:

 

 

But Andy sent him a new suit this year before the season!

Edited Monday at 01:39 PM by Sharky7337

[Seventeen]

26 minutes ago, BearNorth said:

He and Hallie are both California people, just saying. Shanahan or McVay would both love to have him I'm sure.

 

Quick ... trade Josh and sign Josh Rosen. 

 

We will then be unburdened by what has been.

 

     

Edited Monday at 01:50 PM by Seventeen

[BearNorth]

1 minute ago, Seventeen said:

 

Quick ... trade Josh and sign Josh Rosen. 

 

We will then be unburdeded by what has been.

In my mid 70's I've already been through the drought, 4 Falls of Buffalo, and was AT the Music City Miracle.  Running out of time I'm afraid.

[Lou from CT]

The defense absolutely consistently gives up way to many points to be a Super Bowl team and has nothing to do with a couple of injuries . It is year over year . I LOVE WHAT Beane and McDermott have done for this franchise. Every year they give us great excitement, but it isn’t normal to have to score 35 to 45 points to win every game . The Chiefs didn’t score 30 points in one game this year and they light up the Bills again for over 30 points .

Then you hear the same thing on the Bills show whether it is on the radio or tv about the offense . They want the defense to be respected because we have a defensive minded coach , but everyone knows if Allen was on the Chiefs and Mahomes was on the Bills the result might even be more one sided for the Chiefs.What was the score in last years championship game 17 to 10 Chiefs and Baltimore. 
If I am Josh Allen I WOULD BE SAYING “ How many years can I put up 30 plus points on the board every game. This has nothing to do with Babich or Frazier it has been like this every year. 
Thanks to the Bills for another exciting season, let’s use the tight ends more and get another receiver  who can stretch the field . For the most part you need to bring in some defenders who can play down hill ,and cover receivers better they were wide open most of the game . Look forward to 2025. Go Bills 

[LarryMadman]

8 hours ago, HaldimandBills said:

Since 2000, teams with 4+ TDs and 0 Turnovers in a playoff game are 59-3 

The three losses 

Bills vs. Chiefs in the 2024 AFC Championship
Bills vs. Chiefs in the 2021 Divisional Round
Chiefs vs. Patriots in the 2018 AFC Championship

 

Josh Allen has 25 tds and 4 turnovers in 13 playoff games. 

 

Bills defense have now surrendered 38, 42, 27, and 32 points in all four of their losses to the Chiefs. What makes this STAT most alarming is each one of those scores was the most points the Chiefs scored that year in the playoffs. 

 

Bills have a defense issue and it is painfully obvious they will never win until this is addressed. Allen basically has to come out slinging immediately because his defense does not give him time to breathe. I've watched Mahomes, Brady, Burrow, Manning all struggle early in games only to win because their defense made multiple stops in the first half. Bills defense have serious problems against elite competition and this is year 5 of this mess. 

It's really got to be tough and taxing on Josh knowing full well he needs to be perfect and that still hasent been good enough because of his coach. Josh not only knows he has to play against the opponent, he also has to play against the refs and make up for his own coaches incompetence (from gameplans, game decisions, and personel decisions). When does Josh say enough is enough and call his own shots, (trade, players, gameplan). We're frusterated as fans watching this same movie over and over, I couldn't imaging being in it, his frusteration has to be close to a tipping point. Terry better listen to Josh or he's going to lose him. 

[Homey D. Clown]

Josh Allen will win a superbowl.  Just not in Buffalo.

[HaldimandBills]

55 minutes ago, peterpan said:

I personally thought the D played well yesterday.  We lost because of offense.  Brady was terrible and I don’t want him back after such a horrible outing.  0/2 on 2 pt conversions.  Tush push was seemingly our only play and like a spoiled toddler he kept trying it no matter how much it didn’t work.  No one was schemed  open on passing plays.  Josh has to manufacture everything.  like the chiefs, who on 3rd/9 with the game on the line, schemed a dude wide the freak open for an easy 15 yards.  EASY.  
 

where was that play for us Brady?!?!?  You have a dozen tries where’s the play!!  No play action with mid direction crossing route to a RB or TE to be wide open ?!  Why no pass to Alec Anderson the tackle eligible?!  There was nothing and it was embarrassing.

 

josh Allen carries this whole team and especially Brady

We scored more points on the Chiefs than any other team this year but the offense was terrible. OK. We gave up more points to the Chiefs this year than any other team this season but the defense was good. Just so we are on the same page. Giving up 32 points is a good day for the defense? 

 

Sure they stepped up in the 2nd half but the damage was done. 32 points is not a good defensive outing against a Chiefs team who hadn't scored 30 all season.

25 minutes ago, Chicken Boo said:

Flawed argument as the Chiefs also give up a good amount of points to the Bills.  These games aren't blowouts and aside from 2020, they've all come down to the final drive.  

 

You think this is bad, go look at what Rodgers defenses did to him in GB during the post season.  They gave up an average of 33.5ppg and they weren't playing Reid and Mahomes's Chiefs every game.  

So the defense being atrocious is a flawed argument. I've heard everything now. So why do the Chiefs consistently score the most of the Bills defense vs. every other playoff team? They don't score this much on the Niners, Ravens, or Bengals. Just the Bills.

[uticaclub]

1 hour ago, BearNorth said:

He and Hallie are both California people, just saying. Shanahan or McVay would both love to have him I'm sure.

Location has nothing to do with. Winning is all that matters & we are only getting so far with Beane & McDermott

[90sBills]

3 hours ago, HaldimandBills said:

 

This is the problem. Mahomes many times has needed an entire half to get into rhythm and his defense allowed him because they shut down the opposing offense. Every QB has experienced this. Part of why I think Lamar is overrated because his defense has given him so many opportunities.

 

Bills defense never affords Allen a solid 1st half whenever they play a good team. Let me know when the Bills shut down the Chiefs or Bengals in the 1st half and hold them to 10 points? They don't. They haven't. Allen has to be clicking on all cylinders every time we play these teams. No other QB has to be on as much as Allen. It's ridiculous. All that said Allen still put up 29 points. Blaming this on Allen is futile. 

Not in the playoffs he doesn’t. That’s why it’s so tough to beat KC.

[Brianmoorman4jesus]

We never stop anyone. That’s it. It’s really that simple. We will never win with this defense. It’s infuriating that the people in charge don’t see it

[Airseven]

Defense got the FG stop when they needed it. Allen had the game in his hands (again) with three minutes left. He was inaccurate all night. And of course immediately tried to bail to the sideline on the corner blitz. Allen shoulders plenty of blame.

[msw2112]

2 hours ago, HaldimandBills said:

We scored more points on the Chiefs than any other team this year but the offense was terrible. OK. We gave up more points to the Chiefs this year than any other team this season but the defense was good. Just so we are on the same page. Giving up 32 points is a good day for the defense? 

 

Sure they stepped up in the 2nd half but the damage was done. 32 points is not a good defensive outing against a Chiefs team who hadn't scored 30 all season.

So the defense being atrocious is a flawed argument. I've heard everything now. So why do the Chiefs consistently score the most of the Bills defense vs. every other playoff team? They don't score this much on the Niners, Ravens, or Bengals. Just the Bills.

 

The Chiefs score this much against the Bills because they have to.  In other words, if the Bills had a lesser offense and scored fewer points, the Chiefs would play more conservatively and score fewer points, but still enough to win the game.  The Chiefs have the ability to do what is necessary to win the game and if that means opening up their offense to do it, then that's what they do.  The Chiefs scored 23 points against the Texans and it was more than enough to win, as the Texans only scored 14.  Had the Texans put up 28, the Chiefs would have scored in the 30s.

 

This isn't to say that the Bills defense doesn't need to improve - it definitely does.  But it's an answer to the question of why the Chiefs score more against the Bills than against other teams.

[eee1776]

Lets put the blame where it needs to go. Our Dc is not qualified to run a defense, Mcd needs to stop putting people in positions that are not able to do. first year coordinator will not bring you the result you need.. Anyway that's by rant about the game, still not feeling better .