Sojourner Posted Monday at 05:07 AM Posted Monday at 05:07 AM 1 minute ago, Goin Breakdown said: With all the money and top picks invested, this is and has been a big problem and it starts with beane and McD Just now, streetkings01 said: Defense definitely was the issue. The defense and that of what McD has built needs to be heavily changed. No disagreement but when it comes to the absolute basis of rationality going into this game, we as fans knew what we had. They actually did everything people wanted. Make a couple of stops and get a turnover/s. They kept the Chiefs from running away at it to open the second half. Don’t understand why they can’t be given any credit. 1 1 Quote
Chugga Posted Monday at 05:07 AM Posted Monday at 05:07 AM 32 minutes ago, Roundybout said: I don’t blame Josh for the loss but I also can’t ignore the fact that the game was there for the taking. Sadly if the roles were reversed I think 99% of this board would agree Mahomes and the Chiefs are getting at the very least 3 points but most likely 7 2 Quote
streetkings01 Posted Monday at 05:09 AM Posted Monday at 05:09 AM Just now, thenorthremembers said: Did the defense make Josh and the offense fail to win the game on the last drive. The defense did ifs job. It's not 1975. 29 points should’ve been enough points to beat that version of the Chiefs. 2-14-1 is the Chiefs record this season if every team scored 29 points on them. Every playoff can’t be decided by our offense having to score 30+ points…..just once our defense needs have a big performance when we really need them! 1 Quote
Shortchaz Posted Monday at 05:09 AM Posted Monday at 05:09 AM 54 minutes ago, Donuts and Doritos said: D is not good enough The eagles and the chiefs both punted twice today. Quote
streetkings01 Posted Monday at 05:10 AM Posted Monday at 05:10 AM 2 minutes ago, Chugga said: I don’t blame Josh for the loss but I also can’t ignore the fact that the game was there for the taking. Sadly if the roles were reversed I think 99% of this board would agree Mahomes and the Chiefs are getting at the very least 3 points but most likely 7 We’d all agree because none of us has any confidence our defense can make a stop when it truly counts! Quote
thenorthremembers Posted Monday at 05:11 AM Posted Monday at 05:11 AM Just now, streetkings01 said: 29 points should’ve been enough points to beat that version of the Chiefs. 2-14-1 is the Chiefs record this season if every team scored 29 points on them. Every playoff can’t be decided by our offense having to score 30+ points…..just once our defense needs have a big performance when we really need them! Again they had the ball at the end of the game with a chance to win. That's the job of a defense. Not to hold a team to ten points. It's the frickin Chiefs with the second best quarterback to ever play in the NFL. You sure as hell better outacore them. 1 Quote
streetkings01 Posted Monday at 05:11 AM Posted Monday at 05:11 AM 1 minute ago, Shortchaz said: The eagles and the chiefs both punted twice today. Chiefs scored the most points they’ve scored all season 1 1 1 Quote
T.E. Posted Monday at 05:11 AM Posted Monday at 05:11 AM 57 minutes ago, MPL said: I mean, it literally is the most statistically unlikely things going against us over and over and over and over, ad nauseam. Like, wtf? How? Why? We have a great roster with a mediocre coaching staff. Simple as that. Quote
LABILLBACKER Posted Monday at 05:12 AM Posted Monday at 05:12 AM 59 minutes ago, Donuts and Doritos said: D is not good enough That stat is a testimony to how garbage Sean's playoff defenses are. You can set your watch to it every year. 1 1 1 1 Quote
Sojourner Posted Monday at 05:13 AM Posted Monday at 05:13 AM 4 minutes ago, thenorthremembers said: Did the defense make Josh and the offense fail to win the game on the last drive. The defense did ifs job. It's not 1975. McD has his faults and needs to answer some questions but that doesn’t fit the narrative for these people. This game wasn’t on McD. He had the balls to try and win the game. Our offense didn’t execute on two drives resulting in turnovers. If any coach needs to go, I’m honestly hoping it’s Brady. I’ve never seen a guy so stubborn to adapt throughout a game. Then again, why am I surprised? He’s not adapted play calling situationally for a whole season. 2 Quote
thenorthremembers Posted Monday at 05:17 AM Posted Monday at 05:17 AM 2 minutes ago, Sojourner said: McD has his faults and needs to answer some questions but that doesn’t fit the narrative for these people. This game wasn’t on McD. He had the balls to try and win the game. Our offense didn’t execute on two drives resulting in turnovers. If any coach needs to go, I’m honestly hoping it’s Brady. I’ve never seen a guy so stubborn to adapt throughout a game. Then again, why am I surprised? He’s not adapted play calling situationally for a whole season. Honestly outside of the running game and wide out screens I am not sure what Brady is really scheming up. Onto next season I guess. 2 Quote
streetkings01 Posted Monday at 05:19 AM Posted Monday at 05:19 AM 2 minutes ago, thenorthremembers said: Again they had the ball at the end of the game with a chance to win. That's the job of a defense. Not to hold a team to ten points. It's the frickin Chiefs with the second best quarterback to ever play in the NFL. You sure as hell better outacore them. We had to hold an offense to 28 points - 4 touchdowns in a playoff game ……yea that’s way too much to ask 🙄 Only 2 teams all season have allowed that Chiefs offense to score more than 29 points. Only a McDermott led defense could screw this one up….the most vulnerable Chiefs offense in the Reid/Mahomes era and give up like the 3rd or 4th most points they’ve scored during their postseason run! Quote
reddogblitz Posted Monday at 05:20 AM Posted Monday at 05:20 AM 2 minutes ago, thenorthremembers said: Honestly outside of the running game and wide out screens I am not sure what Brady is really scheming up. Onto next season I guess. I thought all game he was setting up the play action bomb. KC was totally sagged in to stop the run but we never went to it. 1 1 Quote
Man with No Name Posted Monday at 05:23 AM Posted Monday at 05:23 AM 59 minutes ago, thenorthremembers said: Wrong. The offensive had the ball with a future hall of fame qb wifh 3 minutes to go to win the game. They threw up on themselve. The defense wasn't the issue. on one hand, I think the exact same way here. On the other hand, it is odd that we always look at a football game through the lens of "if you have the ball at the end of the game with a chance to win, the defense has done their job" the thing with our offense is that when you look at some of the chiefs scoring drives, it looks so easy for them. every scoring drive we have is extremely tense, needing multiple big plays. is that a function of the play calling, or josh just not letting things be easy? or am i just imagining it. 1 Quote
Sojourner Posted Monday at 05:23 AM Posted Monday at 05:23 AM 5 minutes ago, thenorthremembers said: Honestly outside of the running game and wide out screens I am not sure what Brady is really scheming up. Onto next season I guess. Screen to one of your 2 slowest receivers on a game tying/leading drive on 3rd down. Big brain move. 4D chess. 1 Quote
UKBillFan Posted Monday at 05:24 AM Posted Monday at 05:24 AM 1 hour ago, McBean said: pain. Absolute pain. Being pedantic - and it may have already been said - but didn't the Bills commit two turnovers tonight? Both on downs. 1 Quote
Old Coot Posted Monday at 05:26 AM Posted Monday at 05:26 AM 1 hour ago, MPL said: I mean, it literally is the most statistically unlikely things going against us over and over and over and over, ad nauseam. Like, wtf? How? Why? This is why we can't have nice things! 1 Quote
Goin Breakdown Posted Monday at 05:28 AM Posted Monday at 05:28 AM (edited) 23 minutes ago, Sojourner said: The defense and that of what McD has built needs to be heavily changed. No disagreement but when it comes to the absolute basis of rationality going into this game, we as fans knew what we had. They actually did everything people wanted. Make a couple of stops and get a turnover/s. They kept the Chiefs from running away at it to open the second half. Don’t understand why they can’t be given any credit. Absolutely agree and yet i still have to ask why (for the most part) does this defense, why with its defensive guru coach do they rely so much on turnovers in order to get the other team off the field? All this being said, I am happy they did makes some stops today. I believe that at least equal share of this loss belongs to the offense. Edited Monday at 05:31 AM by Goin Breakdown 1 Quote
Old Coot Posted Monday at 05:28 AM Posted Monday at 05:28 AM 23 minutes ago, streetkings01 said: Defense definitely was the issue Defense was AN issue but there were others: the O 1 1 Quote
reddogblitz Posted Monday at 05:29 AM Posted Monday at 05:29 AM I'm not worried about this stat. Nowadays with AI and fancy analytics software, everything's a record or the first time ever or whatever ... Quote
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