Josh choked tonight

[DaVinci]

2 years in a row ,ball in his hand on the final drive. Both years he came up empty. I don't know what the problem is but there is a problem. All season he makes these plays. I've had enough talk of defense. the "MVP" has the chance to win it and he pukes on the field.

[JakeFrommStateFarm]

Bills lost the game because defense was absolutely torched.

 

Worthy turned into Jamar Chase junior and Coleman and Cooper did their disappearing act again.

 

Lack of use Cooper and Coleman is on Brady and no one else.

 

Josh was heroic and did the best he could with the limited offensive weapons he had.

 

At the very least can we stop the Worthy vs Coleman comparison?

 

I think we clearly saw who was better last night

[Lfod]

I don't dont think he choked. He didn't play a perfect game and was sloppy at the start and we needed him locked in from start to finish. 

 

 

[DaVinci]

4 minutes ago, JakeFrommStateFarm said:

Bills lost the game because defense was absolutely torched.

These  are the games Mahomes won when there defense was terrible 

[Jay_Fixit]

Lots of new fans around that have no idea what they're actually watching.

[HamptonBillsfan]

3 hours ago, Matt_In_NH said:

Can you quote where I said the defense played well?  I actually just made a joke/sarcastic post becuase you meant to say the Chiefs never score "more than 30 points"  but go on with your narrative making........

As long as you’re being sarcastic about my exaggeration, I’m good.

[Murdox]

22 minutes ago, DaVinci said:

2 years in a row ,ball in his hand on the final drive. Both years he came up empty. I don't know what the problem is but there is a problem. All season he makes these plays. I've had enough talk of defense. the "MVP" has the chance to win it and he pukes on the field.

 

Spags outfoxed both Brady and Allen with the blitzes, but even then Kincaid had a reasonable chance to catch that incredible heave by Josh.  I was surprised how much of a chance he gave Kincaid to catch it with that blitz coming.

[Billz4ever]

24 minutes ago, DaVinci said:

2 years in a row ,ball in his hand on the final drive. Both years he came up empty. I don't know what the problem is but there is a problem. All season he makes these plays. I've had enough talk of defense. the "MVP" has the chance to win it and he pukes on the field.

 

A NFL receiver drops a very catchable 4th down conversion and that's the QB "choking"? Interesting logic there.

 

Might as well blame Josh for the defense being trash too while you're at it.

2 minutes ago, Murdox said:

 

Spags outfoxed both Brady and Allen with the blitzes, but even then Kincaid had a reasonable chance to catch that incredible heave by Josh.  I was surprised how much of a chance he gave Kincaid to catch it with that blitz coming.

 

Josh beat a blitz with 3 players in his face and put a very catchable ball on a spot where only his receiver could catch it.  

 

There must be a new definition of choking that I'm not familiar with.

[Billz4ever]

1 minute ago, JakeFrommStateFarm said:

Picture of Elam after the game but let's blame Josh

 

 

I've got to think the Elam experiment is finally over. I don't even see the point of him occupying a roster spot any more.

[Not at the table Karlos]

22 minutes ago, JakeFrommStateFarm said:

Bills lost the game because defense was absolutely torched.

 

Worthy turned into Jamar Chase junior and Coleman and Cooper did their disappearing act again.

 

Lack of use Cooper and Coleman is on Brady and no one else.

 

Josh was heroic and did the best he could with the limited offensive weapons he had.

 

At the very least can we stop the Worthy vs Coleman comparison?

 

I think we clearly saw who was better last night

I haven’t went back and watched this game but in the past that is absolutely not true. There’s been a decent amount of times Josh has ignored them and others when they’re open or about to come open, instead throwing to someone that he locked on to early. Or they’re just not open and Allen correctly went elsewhere.
 

Samuel is one that gets overlooked a lot. He’s been open a ton with Josh looking his way but Josh goes elsewhere. Been a problem with Josh his whole career. 

 

Josh is Superman at times but there’s a lot of times he doesn’t have to be but puts himself into a bad situation where he needs to be. 

[DaVinci]

17 minutes ago, Billz4ever said:

There must be a new definition of choking that I'm not familiar with.

You make a persuasive argument however that was 1 of 4 plays. 

[Billz4ever]

1 minute ago, DaVinci said:

You make a persuasive argument however that was 1 of 4 plays. 

 

So if Kincaid does his job, you're still saying Allen choked?

[BarleyNY]

I literally thought this was going to be a thread about the chokehold a Chief had on Allen on one of the sneaks. 

[Generic_Bills_Fan]

1 minute ago, DaVinci said:

You make a persuasive argument however that was 1 of 4 plays. 

2nd down play was a nice route by Samuel that got tipped at the line he looked very open though from the behind the qb angle.  3rd down was a pretty nice screen call looked like brown fell and cooper slipped though or that could’ve been a big gainer.  Not sure who the first down was on, maybe Josh.  Not sure if that was a throwaway or what 

[zow2]

I just watched PTI and Michael Wilbon was so complementary of Allen.  Like over the top that he played an awesome game but the Chiefs are just a little better. 

 

I dunno, i thought Allen left some plays out there but in the end he led us to 29 points.  It just seems like the Bills (not him) shrink in the pressure moments while KC lives for it and rises up in those same moments.

[BillsMontreal]

4 minutes ago, zow2 said:

I just watched PTI and Michael Wilbon was so complementary of Allen.  Like over the top that he played an awesome game but the Chiefs are just a little better. 

 

I dunno, i thought Allen left some plays out there but in the end he led us to 29 points.  It just seems like the Bills (not him) shrink in the pressure moments while KC lives for it and rises up in those same moments.

And he found a way to put 29 points against a real good defense in their stadium even of Chiefs staff on defense totally won the check game with their gameplan.

It wasnt pefect, but it will never be perfect for any QB when you are outcoach like that.

29 points in those circumstances, it's something.

 

I really think some fans really begin to take his play for grant.

[Mat68]

I felt that he was pressing a little.  Overall, it was a B game from Josh.  Disappointing it wasn't better.  Got to the AFC championship game in a reset year.  Let’s see what 25 offers.  I see Buffalo hanging a banner Thursday night to open the new Stadium. 

[DaVinci]

9 minutes ago, Billz4ever said:

So if Kincaid does his job, you're still saying Allen choked?

You are a formidable opponent. Maybe I should concede.  However,2 years in a Row we have the ball in the final minutes and we don't score a TD. What is the problem? It is my opinion Mahomes is vastly better than Allan.

[Billz4ever]

13 minutes ago, BarleyNY said:

I literally thought this was going to be a thread about the chokehold a Chief had on Allen on one of the sneaks. 

Yep, that was Tranquil.

 

I was saying you can't tell me an official can't see that as it happened.

4 minutes ago, DaVinci said:

You are a formidable opponent. Maybe I should concede.  However,2 years in a Row we have the ball in the final minutes and we don't score a TD. What is the problem? It is my opinion Mahomes is vastly better than Allan.

 

I'm sure Allen would torch our defense too.

[T master]

19 hours ago, Roundybout said:

Kincaid dropped it. End of discussion.

 

Yep he did and so did Samuel . Josh came out way over hyped at first, Brady started by throwing the ball when the entire season running the ball was where they made their hay & someone here said Cook only had 13 carries for 85 yds and he was successful but they got away from the run , WHY ? 

 

They didn't throw the ball to Knox that has been a weapon, Cooper should have been more involved, there's more than 1 reason . At least no one can roast Bass today ...