Josh choked tonight

[Chaos]

13 hours ago, dayman said:

He’s great. He’s been great in the playoffs. He wasn’t tonight.
 

Started shaky as hell. Couldn’t run all night. Couldn’t sneak. Couldn’t get it downfield (except Hollins a few times…good on Hollins). Ran right into that blitz he didn’t see to end the game and left Shakir open for what may have been a winner.

 

 Love Josh. But let’s just call it what it was—choke job tonight. If he was great we go to the superbowl. He was far from great.

Possibly the stupiest post in TBD history.  And the competetion is fierce. 

[MikePJ76]

1 minute ago, Generic_Bills_Fan said:

Nobody really believes it…it’s some disappointed people that can’t handle it or straight up trolls lol 

Trolls for sure but there are a lot of people I am noticing we have not seen posting in a while and they are the ones in every thread saying Allen isn't good enough.  Its pretty obvious they believe it.

 

I just want to know how to block posters so I can be here in peace.

[Matt_In_NH]

11 minutes ago, HamptonBillsfan said:

That’s a nonsensical take because he doesn’t call his own plays and on short yardage plays that turned the game, QB sneaks to the left was unsuccessful 4 times. Josh pulled 29 pts out of his rear end without a #1 or #2 receiver and Kincaid dropped a catchable ball to tie or win the game. KC never scored 30 all season until yesterday. Josh had 2TDs with a 105 passer rating and no TOs. The defense let KC march down the field for 2 scores on their last 2 possessions for 11 points after we took the lead 22-21, but Josh chocked according to dayman.  

That’s a nonsensical take because he doesn’t call his own plays and on short yardage plays that turned the game, QB sneaks to the left was unsuccessful 4 times. Josh pulled 29 pts out of his rear end without a #1 or #2 receiver and Kincaid dropped a catchable ball to tie or win the game. KC never scored 30 all season until yesterday. Josh had 2TDs with a 105 passer rating and no TOs. The defense let KC march down the field for 2 scores on their last 2 possessions for 11 points after we took the lead 22-21, but Josh chocked according to dayman.  

That’s a nonsensical take because he doesn’t call his own plays and on short yardage plays that turned the game, QB sneaks to the left was unsuccessful 4 times. Josh pulled 29 pts out of his rear end without a #1 or #2 receiver and Kincaid dropped a catchable ball to tie or win the game. KC never scored 30 all season until yesterday. Josh had 2TDs with a 105 passer rating and no TOs. The defense let KC march down the field for 2 scores on their last 2 possessions for 11 points after we took the lead 22-21, but Josh chocked according to dayman.  

That’s a nonsensical take because he doesn’t call his own plays and on short yardage plays that turned the game, QB sneaks to the left was unsuccessful 4 times. Josh pulled 29 pts out of his rear end without a #1 or #2 receiver and Kincaid dropped a catchable ball to tie or win the game. KC never scored 30 all season until yesterday. Josh had 2TDs with a 105 passer rating and no TOs. The defense let KC march down the field for 2 scores on their last 2 possessions for 11 points after we took the lead 22-21, but Josh chocked according to dayman.  

That’s a nonsensical take because he doesn’t call his own plays and on short yardage plays that turned the game, QB sneaks to the left was unsuccessful 4 times. Josh pulled 29 pts out of his rear end without a #1 or #2 receiver and Kincaid dropped a catchable ball to tie or win the game. KC never scored 30 all season until yesterday. Josh had 2TDs with a 105 passer rating and no TOs. The defense let KC march down the field for 2 scores on their last 2 possessions for 11 points after we took the lead 22-21, but Josh chocked according to dayman.  

That’s a nonsensical take because he doesn’t call his own plays and on short yardage plays that turned the game, QB sneaks to the left was unsuccessful 4 times. Josh pulled 29 pts out of his rear end without a #1 or #2 receiver and Kincaid dropped a catchable ball to tie or win the game. KC never scored 30 all season until yesterday. Josh had 2TDs with a 105 passer rating and no TOs. The defense let KC march down the field for 2 scores on their last 2 possessions for 11 points after we took the lead 22-21, but Josh chocked according to dayman.  

That’s a nonsensical take because he doesn’t call his own plays and on short yardage plays that turned the game, QB sneaks to the left was unsuccessful 4 times. Josh pulled 29 pts out of his rear end without a #1 or #2 receiver and Kincaid dropped a catchable ball to tie or win the game. KC never scored 30 all season until yesterday. Josh had 2TDs with a 105 passer rating and no TOs. The defense let KC march down the field for 2 scores on their last 2 possessions for 11 points after we took the lead 22-21, but Josh chocked according to dayman.  

That’s a nonsensical take because he doesn’t call his own plays and on short yardage plays that turned the game, QB sneaks to the left was unsuccessful 4 times. Josh pulled 29 pts out of his rear end without a #1 or #2 receiver and Kincaid dropped a catchable ball to tie or win the game. KC never scored 30 all season until yesterday. Josh had 2TDs with a 105 passer rating and no TOs. The defense let KC march down the field for 2 scores on their last 2 possessions for 11 points after we took the lead 22-21, but Josh chocked according to dayman.  

That’s a nonsensical take because he doesn’t call his own plays and on short yardage plays that turned the game, QB sneaks to the left was unsuccessful 4 times. Josh pulled 29 pts out of his rear end without a #1 or #2 receiver and Kincaid dropped a catchable ball to tie or win the game. KC never scored 30 all season until yesterday. Josh had 2TDs with a 105 passer rating and no TOs. The defense let KC march down the field for 2 scores on their last 2 possessions for 11 points after we took the lead 22-21, but Josh chocked according to dayman.  

KC score thirty twice in the regular season

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KC score thirty twice in the regular season

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KC score thirty twice in the regular season

KC score thirty twice in the regular season

KC score thirty twice in the regular season

KC score thirty twice in the regular season

KC score thirty twice in the regular season

[Generic_Bills_Fan]

2 minutes ago, Matt_In_NH said:

 

 

Even though I said what I said, I dont believe the premise of this thread that "Josh choked".  But he did not have his best game.  Mahomes had turnover worthy plays also.

‘Best game’ is kind of subjective…given the opponent and the environment I really thought he was great.  They lit the chiefs up even though the chiefs had a couple extra key defensive players for this one compared to the regular season.  I think this narrative being pushed is entirely based on him looking a little lost on the first drive 

[UKBillFan]

Just now, BullBuchanan said:

Nope.

 

In all seriousness, I think Josh was good enough last night, excluding the opening drive. I acknowledge he came out badly, and it was a shame because I thought that had been sorted. But at the same time, there was no run game or easy pass to help settle him (see the start of the Chiefs first drive to assist Mahomes). The run game didn't make a true appearance until the third quarter. Question one, where as it, followed by... why persist with the QB sneaks?

 

But he did enough to move the chains. He did enough to win. Opposite a far better defense than Mahomes was facing. With far fewer options than Mahomes had. He got us within three. If Kincaid or Samuel could catch, maybe things would be different. Was he at his best? No. Did he play well enough to win considering the inbalance on both sides of the ball? Yes. How often do we see QBs play at their very best against this Chiefs defense?

 

 

[BuffaloNuts]

13 hours ago, colin said:

Josh made mistakes for sure.

 

His biggest weaknesses are passes down the field outside the numbers (awful we talent contributes to that bigly) and identify blitzes (bottom tier play by Torrence and playing vs spags hurts that bigly too).  So what did our first season starting oc (how the hell do we have these OC and DC clowns if we want to win a chip?) do?  Took us out of our advantage running cook and did nothing to make some easy quick plays vs the blitz.

Spot on. When we needed the best drive of the game, we had the worst. Not a fan of the play calling on that last drive. Even with everything that happened to that point, the questionable calls, etc. The Bills had the ball with under 3m to go and an opportunity to eat the rest of the clock and win the game. We didn't capitalize, didn't find a way. 

[The Firebaugh Kid]

He was good enough. He always is. Even if he’s a little erratic. The defense was swiss cheese for the majority of that game. 

[BullBuchanan]

1 minute ago, UKBillFan said:

 

In all seriousness, I think Josh was good enough last night, excluding the opening drive. I acknowledge he came out badly, and it was a shame because I thought that had been sorted. But at the same time, there was no run game or easy pass to help settle him (see the start of the Chiefs first drive to assist Mahomes). The run game didn't make a true appearance until the third quarter. Question one, where as it, followed by... why persist with the QB sneaks?

 

But he did enough to move the chains. He did enough to win. Opposite a far better defense than Mahomes was facing. With far fewer options than Mahomes had. He got us within three. If Kincaid or Samuel could catch, maybe things would be different. Was he at his best? No. Did he play well enough to win considering the inbalance on both sides of the ball? Yes. How often do we see QBs play at their very best against this Chiefs defense?

 

 

Even if you actually believe that - we lost by 3, so a TD on that drive instead of a punt wins it and a FG takes us to OT. We had 4 drives that failed to produce points while KC only had 3 (excluding the kneeldowns at half/game). It was a big deal.

[Matt_In_NH]

2 minutes ago, Generic_Bills_Fan said:

‘Best game’ is kind of subjective…given the opponent and the environment I really thought he was great.  They lit the chiefs up even though the chiefs had a couple extra key defensive players for this one compared to the regular season.  I think this narrative being pushed is entirely based on him looking a little lost on the first drive 

And getting the ball with 3 minutes left down 3, failing to convert....Baldy broke it down, failure to recognize what was happening presnap, not that it was easy but it was there to be figured out.  At the end of the day it was a well played game by both teams and the Chiefs made one more play.  The third down on that drive...the bubble to Cooper could have been a big gainer if he can shake out of that tackle.  So many little things

[Generic_Bills_Fan]

9 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said:

He always bails it out. Thats what Josh does. He’s the off script king.

 

But on script wins Super Bowls.

Insane statement lol a large majority of the chiefs success is off script plays 

 

heck Eli manning broke 4 tackles and threw it to a nobody that caught the ball with his freakin helmet to beat the guy you said would never get fooled by spags 😂

[UKBillFan]

2 minutes ago, BullBuchanan said:

Even if you actually believe that - we lost by 3, so a TD on that drive instead of a punt wins it and a FG takes us to OT. We had 4 drives that failed to produce points while KC only had 3 (excluding the kneeldowns at half/game). It was a big deal.

 

And yet it should be questioned why KC only had three. It would have been two had Mahomes not inexplicably fumbled the ball. Their defense is stronger than the Bills; faster, stronger, the O Line completely disappeared. Switch the QBs and Mahomes would have been running for his life whilst Josh would have had more time. With the closeness in the scores, I don't think it's a reach to say it would be Josh going to the SB with the Chiefs and Mahomes sitting at home.

[vanislebills44]

choked?

hmmm good coaches improvise, adapt, n overcome.....

didnt c none of that on either side of the ball for the bills..

reid and spagnuolo outcoach the bills in the playoffs soooo bad every game it is not even close...

allen is not the coach...should be switch the play at the line the odd time? possibly

does allen play defence?? 

list goes on n on...

he dumped a hail mary right in kincaids mitts...he aint mr.perfect he cant throw the ball 80yards and go run n catch it himself....

[HamptonBillsfan]

11 minutes ago, Matt_In_NH said:

KC score thirty twice in the regular season

KC score thirty twice in the regular season

KC score thirty twice in the regular season

KC score thirty twice in the regular season

KC score thirty twice in the regular season

KC score thirty twice in the regular season

KC score thirty twice in the regular season

KC score thirty twice in the regular season

KC score thirty twice in the regular season

KC score thirty twice in the regular season

KC score thirty twice in the regular season

KC score thirty twice in the regular season

KC score thirty twice in the regular season

I ‘m sorry, I should have said once all season in regulation. You get the point. BTW there’s medication for your problem.

[Generic_Bills_Fan]

8 minutes ago, Matt_In_NH said:

And getting the ball with 3 minutes left down 3, failing to convert....Baldy broke it down, failure to recognize what was happening presnap, not that it was easy but it was there to be figured out.  At the end of the day it was a well played game by both teams and the Chiefs made one more play.  The third down on that drive...the bubble to Cooper could have been a big gainer if he can shake out of that tackle.  So many little things

We’re talking about Josh here yes?  Why does cooper and brown slipping on a bubble screen that is set up for big yardage reflect on him?  
 

if you wanna say the bills offense had a shot to win it and came up short I entirely agree.  

 

and just one more time, guys get fooled presnap.  It happens…and even if he slid the protection that pressure is still coming super quick and Torrence got abused who knows what would’ve happened.  What DID happen is he made an absolutely insane throw that should’ve been caught.  Josh much more than entirely redeemed himself on that play..  he was great in that game and converted on plenty of clutch opportunities (the 4th down conversion with the sh*t spot included if you ask me).  But since he looked pretty anxious on the first drive the whole story is getting warped in peoples minds..  I just don’t understand it.  That ball to Kincaid is the throw of the year if he comes down with it which he very much should’ve 

[Matt_In_NH]

13 minutes ago, HamptonBillsfan said:

I ‘m sorry, I should have said once all season in regulation. You get the point. BTW there’s medication for your problem.

Do you mean twice?

[Generic_Bills_Fan]

39 minutes ago, MikePJ76 said:

I can't believe people are spending all this time nitpicking that final play.

 

then the results are all josh choked and was fooled.  Amazing.  Kincaid catches the ball its an all time play.  Now all of a sudden josh is a choker.

 

 

I can’t believe how good of a throw that was lol that’s my takeaway from everyone trying to use it against Josh. Real time it looked like he just tossed it up because he threw it off his back foot but that’s who he was trying to get it to the whole way and Kincaid was wide open since Josh bought that extra split second rolling right 

 

I’ve watched it like 30 times now…nobody in the league makes that throw there

Edited Monday at 06:28 PM by Generic_Bills_Fan

[HamptonBillsfan]

4 minutes ago, Matt_In_NH said:

Do you mean twice?

Once in regulation and why are you trying to say our defense played well.  What’s the point you’re trying to make? 

[Big Blitz]

 

[Warriorspikes51]

2 minutes ago, Big Blitz said:

 

 

too bad he moved right instead of left..... 

[90sBills]

5 hours ago, Mr. WEO said:

Lots of chatter on the radio this am--MVP candidate with 3;33 to go, ball on their 30 and can't cross midfield on a do or die possession......

 

he didn't though

That was a legacy defining moment for him. It could have changed everything regarding his narrative with the media and NFL fans in general. A missed opportunity for sure.