K-9 Posted Monday at 05:35 PM Posted Monday at 05:35 PM Ben Solak’s tweet might be the worst example of football awareness I’ve seen. Like Fitz said, football is so damn easy from your couch while watching replays. Kincaid makes a catch that he gets paid to make and nobody is suggesting the ball should have gone to Shakir. All we need to know about that play is that Josh is one of less than a handful of people on the planet that can make that throw under that kind of pressure. Get a clue, Solak. 1 Quote
BullBuchanan Posted Monday at 05:43 PM Posted Monday at 05:43 PM 5 minutes ago, UKBillFan said: Josh was bad on the opening drive. After that he played more than well enough to win. Unfortunately the other things you mentioned conspired against him and the Bills. You also forgot the drops - Kincaid two and Samuel one. Well enough to win against an average team, sure. Well enough to win against the best team in the sport? No. Not even a little bit. Mahomes was near perfect. If Josh wanted to move on, he needed to be at that level too. I already said it was a total team loss, but Josh can't control that. All he can control is his own play, and this notion that he can't be any better than he is, is false. He didn't look like an MVP out there last night. If he played an MVP game, that would've done the job. The defense, for all of their warts, did hold Kelce to 19 yards of two catches, and stifled KC's running game until the very end. We needed a play from someone - could have been Kincaid, Johnson, Cook, but there's no one better equipped to deliver one than Allen. Unfortunately, he didn't have it when we needed it either. 1 Quote
Buffalo_Stampede Posted Monday at 05:44 PM Posted Monday at 05:44 PM I’m going to get jumped for this but Mahomes and Brady don’t get fooled here. 1 Quote
HamptonBillsfan Posted Monday at 05:45 PM Posted Monday at 05:45 PM That’s a nonsensical take because he doesn’t call his own plays and on short yardage plays that turned the game, QB sneaks to the left was unsuccessful 4 times. Josh pulled 29 pts out of his rear end without a #1 or #2 receiver and Kincaid dropped a catchable ball to tie or win the game. KC never scored 30 all season until yesterday. Josh had 2TDs with a 105 passer rating and no TOs. The defense let KC march down the field for 2 scores on their last 2 possessions for 11 points after we took the lead 22-21, but Josh chocked according to dayman. That’s a nonsensical take because he doesn’t call his own plays and on short yardage plays that turned the game, QB sneaks to the left was unsuccessful 4 times. Josh pulled 29 pts out of his rear end without a #1 or #2 receiver and Kincaid dropped a catchable ball to tie or win the game. KC never scored 30 all season until yesterday. Josh had 2TDs with a 105 passer rating and no TOs. The defense let KC march down the field for 2 scores on their last 2 possessions for 11 points after we took the lead 22-21, but Josh chocked according to dayman. That’s a nonsensical take because he doesn’t call his own plays and on short yardage plays that turned the game, QB sneaks to the left was unsuccessful 4 times. Josh pulled 29 pts out of his rear end without a #1 or #2 receiver and Kincaid dropped a catchable ball to tie or win the game. KC never scored 30 all season until yesterday. Josh had 2TDs with a 105 passer rating and no TOs. The defense let KC march down the field for 2 scores on their last 2 possessions for 11 points after we took the lead 22-21, but Josh chocked according to dayman. That’s a nonsensical take because he doesn’t call his own plays and on short yardage plays that turned the game, QB sneaks to the left was unsuccessful 4 times. Josh pulled 29 pts out of his rear end without a #1 or #2 receiver and Kincaid dropped a catchable ball to tie or win the game. KC never scored 30 all season until yesterday. Josh had 2TDs with a 105 passer rating and no TOs. The defense let KC march down the field for 2 scores on their last 2 possessions for 11 points after we took the lead 22-21, but Josh chocked according to dayman. That’s a nonsensical take because he doesn’t call his own plays and on short yardage plays that turned the game, QB sneaks to the left was unsuccessful 4 times. Josh pulled 29 pts out of his rear end without a #1 or #2 receiver and Kincaid dropped a catchable ball to tie or win the game. KC never scored 30 all season until yesterday. Josh had 2TDs with a 105 passer rating and no TOs. The defense let KC march down the field for 2 scores on their last 2 possessions for 11 points after we took the lead 22-21, but Josh chocked according to dayman. That’s a nonsensical take because he doesn’t call his own plays and on short yardage plays that turned the game, QB sneaks to the left was unsuccessful 4 times. Josh pulled 29 pts out of his rear end without a #1 or #2 receiver and Kincaid dropped a catchable ball to tie or win the game. KC never scored 30 all season until yesterday. Josh had 2TDs with a 105 passer rating and no TOs. The defense let KC march down the field for 2 scores on their last 2 possessions for 11 points after we took the lead 22-21, but Josh chocked according to dayman. That’s a nonsensical take because he doesn’t call his own plays and on short yardage plays that turned the game, QB sneaks to the left was unsuccessful 4 times. Josh pulled 29 pts out of his rear end without a #1 or #2 receiver and Kincaid dropped a catchable ball to tie or win the game. KC never scored 30 all season until yesterday. Josh had 2TDs with a 105 passer rating and no TOs. The defense let KC march down the field for 2 scores on their last 2 possessions for 11 points after we took the lead 22-21, but Josh chocked according to dayman. That’s a nonsensical take because he doesn’t call his own plays and on short yardage plays that turned the game, QB sneaks to the left was unsuccessful 4 times. Josh pulled 29 pts out of his rear end without a #1 or #2 receiver and Kincaid dropped a catchable ball to tie or win the game. KC never scored 30 all season until yesterday. Josh had 2TDs with a 105 passer rating and no TOs. The defense let KC march down the field for 2 scores on their last 2 possessions for 11 points after we took the lead 22-21, but Josh chocked according to dayman. That’s a nonsensical take because he doesn’t call his own plays and on short yardage plays that turned the game, QB sneaks to the left was unsuccessful 4 times. Josh pulled 29 pts out of his rear end without a #1 or #2 receiver and Kincaid dropped a catchable ball to tie or win the game. KC never scored 30 all season until yesterday. Josh had 2TDs with a 105 passer rating and no TOs. The defense let KC march down the field for 2 scores on their last 2 possessions for 11 points after we took the lead 22-21, but Josh chocked according to dayman. Quote
UKBillFan Posted Monday at 05:46 PM Posted Monday at 05:46 PM 1 minute ago, BullBuchanan said: Well enough to win against an average team, sure. Well enough to win against the best team in the sport? No. Not even a little bit. Mahomes was near perfect. If Josh wanted to move on, he needed to be at that level too. I already said it was a total team loss, but Josh can't control that. All he can control is his own play, and this notion that he can't be any better than he is, is false. He didn't look like an MVP out there last night. If he played an MVP game, that would've done the job. The defense, for all of their warts, did hold Kelce to 19 yards of two catches, and stifled KC's running game until the very end. We needed a play from someone - could have been Kincaid, Johnson, Cook, but there's no one better equipped to deliver one than Allen. Unfortunately, he didn't have it when we needed it either. So Josh was average yet got the Bills to within three? If he was good, they would have one by at least a score then. If he was MVP level it would have been a blow out. 50-32 maybe. If only. Quote
HamptonBillsfan Posted Monday at 05:46 PM Posted Monday at 05:46 PM That’s a nonsensical take because he doesn’t call his own plays and on short yardage plays that turned the game, QB sneaks to the left was unsuccessful 4 times. Josh pulled 29 pts out of his rear end without a #1 or #2 receiver and Kincaid dropped a catchable ball to tie or win the game. KC never scored 30 all season until yesterday. Josh had 2TDs with a 105 passer rating and no TOs. The defense let KC march down the field for 2 scores on their last 2 possessions for 11 points after we took the lead 22-21, but Josh chocked according to dayman. That’s a nonsensical take because he doesn’t call his own plays and on short yardage plays that turned the game, QB sneaks to the left was unsuccessful 4 times. Josh pulled 29 pts out of his rear end without a #1 or #2 receiver and Kincaid dropped a catchable ball to tie or win the game. KC never scored 30 all season until yesterday. Josh had 2TDs with a 105 passer rating and no TOs. The defense let KC march down the field for 2 scores on their last 2 possessions for 11 points after we took the lead 22-21, but Josh chocked according to dayman. Quote
Generic_Bills_Fan Posted Monday at 05:46 PM Posted Monday at 05:46 PM 8 minutes ago, K-9 said: Ben Solak’s tweet might be the worst example of football awareness I’ve seen. Like Fitz said, football is so damn easy from your couch while watching replays. Kincaid makes a catch that he gets paid to make and nobody is suggesting the ball should have gone to Shakir. All we need to know about that play is that Josh is one of less than a handful of people on the planet that can make that throw under that kind of pressure. Get a clue, Solak. Clearly it’s not even easy from your couch cuz he still got it extremely wrong from his couch 😂. That would’ve been a zero situational awareness type throw that got mocked by the nfl world forever The second josh flipped his body to throw left the defense would’ve been all over that play, there just wasn’t enough time to get defenders going upfield like the play he compared it to 1 Quote
HamptonBillsfan Posted Monday at 05:46 PM Posted Monday at 05:46 PM That’s a nonsensical take because he doesn’t call his own plays and on short yardage plays that turned the game, QB sneaks to the left was unsuccessful 4 times. Josh pulled 29 pts out of his rear end without a #1 or #2 receiver and Kincaid dropped a catchable ball to tie or win the game. KC never scored 30 all season until yesterday. Josh had 2TDs with a 105 passer rating and no TOs. The defense let KC march down the field for 2 scores on their last 2 possessions for 11 points after we took the lead 22-21, but Josh chocked according to dayman. That’s a nonsensical take because he doesn’t call his own plays and on short yardage plays that turned the game, QB sneaks to the left was unsuccessful 4 times. Josh pulled 29 pts out of his rear end without a #1 or #2 receiver and Kincaid dropped a catchable ball to tie or win the game. KC never scored 30 all season until yesterday. Josh had 2TDs with a 105 passer rating and no TOs. The defense let KC march down the field for 2 scores on their last 2 possessions for 11 points after we took the lead 22-21, but Josh chocked according to dayman. Quote
MikePJ76 Posted Monday at 05:48 PM Posted Monday at 05:48 PM I can't believe people are spending all this time nitpicking that final play. then the results are all josh choked and was fooled. Amazing. Kincaid catches the ball its an all time play. Now all of a sudden josh is a choker. Quote
BullBuchanan Posted Monday at 05:49 PM Posted Monday at 05:49 PM 2 minutes ago, UKBillFan said: So Josh was average Didn't ever say that. Try again. Quote
HamptonBillsfan Posted Monday at 05:49 PM Posted Monday at 05:49 PM That’s a nonsensical take because he doesn’t call his own plays and on short yardage plays that turned the game, QB sneaks to the left was unsuccessful 4 times. Josh pulled 29 pts out of his rear end without a #1 or #2 receiver and Kincaid dropped a catchable ball to tie or win the game. KC never scored 30 all season until yesterday. Josh had 2TDs with a 105 passer rating and no TOs. The defense let KC march down the field for 2 scores on their last 2 possessions for 11 points after we took the lead 22-21, but Josh chocked according to dayman. Quote
MikePJ76 Posted Monday at 05:49 PM Posted Monday at 05:49 PM Can someone tell me how to block people? Quote
BillytheKid Posted Monday at 05:50 PM Posted Monday at 05:50 PM Get a different QB then if you think that will help. If it wasn’t for Josh this team wouldn’t even be where it is. maybe he can get some help somewhere else that he isn’t getting with this franchise. Bunch of freaking cry babies that don’t realize he is the whole team basically except for maybe 2 or 3 other players and he is the only one that seems to be able to get the Bills to win. Take your choke job BS somewhere else and shove it up your you know what. 1 Quote
UKBillFan Posted Monday at 05:51 PM Posted Monday at 05:51 PM 1 minute ago, BullBuchanan said: Didn't ever say that. Try again. OK. So Josh was good and got the Bills to within three. If he was great, they would have one by at least a score then. If he was MVP level it would have been a blow out. 50-32 maybe. If only. Quote
Matt_In_NH Posted Monday at 05:52 PM Posted Monday at 05:52 PM 54 minutes ago, GoBills808 said: he did not have Shakir for first down. this frame is right before the pass rush flushes Allen...what you are advocating for is a lateral 12 yards behind the LOS to a guy that needs to get 15 yards on 4th and 5. there is no chance that he gets there After watch Baldinger's breakddown I agree with you. When I saw in real time I thought he had it. The real issue here is not figuring out what was coming pressnap. Quote
Generic_Bills_Fan Posted Monday at 05:53 PM Posted Monday at 05:53 PM (edited) 10 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: I’m going to get jumped for this but Mahomes and Brady don’t get fooled here. Brady known legend against spags defenses in the playoffs 😂 all seriousness though he did miss the slide protection but bailed it out with a flat out ridiculous throw to the right guy that was the throw of the year and Kincaid just didn’t deliver Edited Monday at 05:55 PM by Generic_Bills_Fan Quote
BullBuchanan Posted Monday at 05:54 PM Posted Monday at 05:54 PM 2 minutes ago, UKBillFan said: OK. So Josh was good and got the Bills to within three. If he was great, they would have one by at least a score then. If he was MVP level it would have been a blow out. 50-32 maybe. If only. Nope. Quote
Buffalo_Stampede Posted Monday at 05:55 PM Posted Monday at 05:55 PM Just now, Generic_Bills_Fan said: Brady known legend against spags defenses in the playoffs 😂 all seriousness though he did miss the slide protection but bailed it out with a flat out ridiculous throw to the right guy He always bails it out. Thats what Josh does. He’s the off script king. But on script wins Super Bowls. Quote
Matt_In_NH Posted Monday at 05:55 PM Posted Monday at 05:55 PM 1 hour ago, Generic_Bills_Fan said: A lot of those were really low percentage turnover chances that people are exaggerating imo. That first series he threw an absolute rocket behind the defender no one is catching that. You’re probably not losing a fumble that you are falling right on top of momentum wise either on those Davis run/josh sneak fumbles. Only one that truly looked like kc had a legitimate shot at was the strip but Allen made a great play scooping it before a kc defender could even get there so I wouldn’t even call that luck not to mention, the second low ish percentage INT chance on the first drive doesn’t even happen if they intercept the first, and if they turn it over there what does it even change? Bills punted and kc scored a td Even though I said what I said, I dont believe the premise of this thread that "Josh choked". But he did not have his best game. Mahomes had turnover worthy plays also. Quote
Generic_Bills_Fan Posted Monday at 05:56 PM Posted Monday at 05:56 PM 7 minutes ago, MikePJ76 said: I can't believe people are spending all this time nitpicking that final play. then the results are all josh choked and was fooled. Amazing. Kincaid catches the ball its an all time play. Now all of a sudden josh is a choker. Nobody really believes it…it’s some disappointed people that can’t handle it or straight up trolls lol 1 Quote
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