Josh choked tonight

[AlCowlingsTaxiService]

18 hours ago, SoCal Deek said:

Legacies are made by what you do in the clutch….not how nervous you were at the start. Josh flat out blew it tonight. How many quarterbacks have put together a career defining drive in that moment? But not Josh Allen. I love the guy but it was in his hands to put the team on his back, go get the touchdown, and carry the team to the Superbowl. He didn’t! 

I predict you will incur the wrath of the “Josh can do no wrong” crowd … truth is, that final drive was mismanaged from its inception. How much of that is on Josh, coaching, other players or ancient Indian curses is yet to be determined. 

[jethro_tull]

NO.  The Chiefs D schemes, players and coaching was superior and deserved the win.  Our play calling was too predictable.  

[DaVinci]

14 minutes ago, Billz4ever said:

I'm sure Allen would torch our defense too

I will agree with you there. 

[UKBillFan]

Just now, DaVinci said:

I will agree with you there. 

 

So it's quite difficult to say either way whether Mahomes is vastly better than Josh. Mahomes has the benefit of an O Line (albeit so did the Bills... until yesterday), receivers, coaching and a defense to keep the Chiefs in games if the offense isn't clicking - see the regular season.

[C.Biscuit97]

Just now, UKBillFan said:

 

So it's quite difficult to say either way whether Mahomes is vastly better than Josh. Mahomes has the benefit of an O Line (albeit so did the Bills... until yesterday), receivers, coaching and a defense to keep the Chiefs in games if the offense isn't clicking - see the regular season.

You vastly overrate Mahomes WRs compared to ours. Rookie worthy, washed JuJu and Hopkins, injured Hollywood (who is very overrated). Cook was the second best offensive player last night. 

[UKBillFan]

3 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said:

You vastly overrate Mahomes WRs compared to ours. Rookie worthy, washed JuJu and Hopkins, injured Hollywood (who is very overrated). Cook was the second best offensive player last night. 

 

Worthy torched the defense yesterday.

If we stretch to receivers also including tight ends - Kelce? Though the Bills seem to play him well for some reason. Perhaps that leads to others being able to separate.

[C.Biscuit97]

Just now, UKBillFan said:

 

Worthy torched the defense yesterday.

If we stretch to receivers also including tight ends - Kelce? Though the Bills seem to play him well for some reason. Perhaps that leads to others being able to separate.

Bills fans were laughing at worthy earlier this year for being small and weak. Kelce had 2 catches. Without Mahomes, that is a garbage offense.

[UKBillFan]

4 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said:

Bills fans were laughing at worthy earlier this year for being small and weak. Kelce had 2 catches. Without Mahomes, that is a garbage offense.

 

Depends who replaced him. If it's Josh, Lamar, Burrow or Daniels, with Reid's play calling, it's still a dangerous one. I'm not denying Mahomes isn't a great. Just there isn't a vast difference between him and Josh. Unfortunately the biggest deficit Josh has as a person over Mahomes is his nerves. Sometimes they can take over and, being so reliant on him on offense, it can hurt the Bills badly.

[toto8]

Josh Allen chocked IMHO yes, let me explain why I think this way.

 

protection was to slide L, JA ran right. Maybe run to were you sent your guys to protect you. 

 

He snapped the ball with 17 secs left, why not wait until the last second to maybe get a better idea of the defensive play called.

 

There were 15 yds to go to get in FG range, this is the most important play of the game, one that will end your season or take you to the SB why not wait until the last second and call a TO (we had 3 left) 

 

I know I am a keyboard warrior, a looser, a dumb football fan that knows nothing, don't care what you say, have been a fan for over 35 years and I love this team and I love Josh Allen but he is not clutch when it matters. He hasn't been for the last 2 playoff loses.

 

Other issues are. Brady kept calling the sneak all the time, yes, but it was up to him to try and run it right instead of left all the ***** time.

 

He was scared all game long, every time the broadcast had a closeup on him he looked like it, not optimal when you need an MVP type of game from your MVP QB.

[Best Williams Available]

4 minutes ago, toto8 said:

Josh Allen chocked IMHO yes, let me explain why I think this way.

 

protection was to slide L, JA ran right. Maybe run to were you sent your guys to protect you. 

 

He snapped the ball with 17 secs left, why not wait until the last second to maybe get a better idea of the defensive play called.

 

There were 15 yds to go to get in FG range, this is the most important play of the game, one that will end your season or take you to the SB why not wait until the last second and call a TO (we had 3 left) 

 

I know I am a keyboard warrior, a looser, a dumb football fan that knows nothing, don't care what you say, have been a fan for over 35 years and I love this team and I love Josh Allen but he is not clutch when it matters. He hasn't been for the last 2 playoff loses.

 

Other issues are. Brady kept calling the sneak all the time, yes, but it was up to him to try and run it right instead of left all the ***** time.

 

He was scared all game long, every time the broadcast had a closeup on him he looked like it, not optimal when you need an MVP type of game from your MVP QB.

There was a shot of him coming off the field on a time out and I said “oh 💩 that’s glassy eyed Josh, he’s not the one we need to win this.” He wears his heart on his sleeve so you can easily tell which Josh is in-game.

[DaVinci]

57 minutes ago, UKBillFan said:

So it's quite difficult to say either way whether Mahomes is vastly better than Josh.

yea I may have over did it on "vastly" still working through the anguish.

[reddogblitz]

6 hours ago, Niagara Dude said:

They set it up for most important moment of the game,  the question is why does McDermott learn from this moment and do the same

 

Maybe he did when we sacked Kermit on 3rd and long before they kicked the go ahead FG?

5 hours ago, HOUSE said:

I would say not running in the first half was a coaching choke.

 

I would say on the last drive or 2 when Spags was totally sagged in to stop the run and we didn't go to play action for some throws downfield was a coaching choke.

Edited Tuesday at 02:56 AM by reddogblitz

[VW82]

3 hours ago, C.Biscuit97 said:

Bills fans were laughing at worthy earlier this year for being small and weak. Kelce had 2 catches. Without Mahomes, that is a garbage offense.

 

Not in big games it isn't. Kelce is the 3rd best TE of all time. He's still very effecive in his role in the playoffs. Hopkins and Juju have also had distinguished careers and been in a lot of big games. Hollywood Brown is a deep threat (and nothng else) who spaces for everyone else. As a group, with Worthy's speed, it's ok in a win or go home game.  

Edited Tuesday at 02:46 AM by VW82

[reddogblitz]

2 hours ago, Best Williams Available said:

There was a shot of him coming off the field on a time out and I said “oh 💩 that’s glassy eyed Josh, he’s not the one we need to win this.” He wears his heart on his sleeve so you can easily tell which Josh is in-game.

 

In the 1st quarter my wife states, "Ought Oh, Josh has the deer in the headlight look.". He did.

Edited Tuesday at 02:57 AM by reddogblitz

[MikePJ76]

these threads are all filled with the same people being negative.

 

Amazing reading this stuff.

[zow2]

Anyone else seen that graphic of all NFL

team point differential since 2020? The Bills are so far ahead it’s like they lapped the field. This era Bills will go down as the best 5 years in NFL history to never make a SB appearance.  Makes me mad, but they’ve had an excellent run of success.

[Best Williams Available]

21 hours ago, reddogblitz said:

 

In the 1st quarter my wife states, "Ought Oh, Josh has the deer in the headlight look.". He did.

Absolutely. The opposite of the madman during the Rams game.

[harmonkillebrew]

Josh didn't choke, but man Mahomes, Reid and Spags are CLUTCH.

 

That's the difference. Take one of those guys off the Chiefs and we've probably won a SB or two by now. 

At least Kelce is getting old. Maybe that gives us a shot moving forward.

But we need to upgrade on D and O still to have better talent to overwhelm their clutch-nees