Big Blitz Posted January 27 Posted January 27 2 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said: too bad he moved right instead of left..... If Allen turns to run left the blitzing DB can maintain his path and run him down instantly. By Josh going right it forced him to break his blitz path and slow him down. Josh did the right thing per his instincts. Pre snap was the problem 3 Quote
colin Posted January 27 Posted January 27 protection breakdowns the not being able to recognize the d in front of you vs being predictable on D and just getting eaten all day, that's a scheme and play calling issue. we had plays that were clearly working on D, and kc was clearly adjusting to take things away (tush push anyone?) but we had zero counters for the counters. if we were gonna lose the game on O we shoulda lost doing at least trying to do what was working, which was cook running and catching all over kc. instead it was fades to 0 and some silly orbit route vs an obvious blitz, nothing like a slow to develop play vs immense pressure! ever single time cook went to the edge, and for the season whenever a back wheeled out and josh ran behind him, the d has no chance at all. instead brady has cook with 4 rushes in the entire first half and zero touches on the final 6 play drive. brady choked. 1 Quote
thewookie1 Posted January 27 Posted January 27 4 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said: too bad he moved right instead of left..... Moving left puts him in a worse spot; he'd be chasing Shakir and drawing defenders with him while his other targets all our going right. Quote
BillMafia716ix Posted January 27 Posted January 27 6 hours ago, Mr. WEO said: Lots of chatter on the radio this am--MVP candidate with 3;33 to go, ball on their 30 and can't cross midfield on a do or die possession...... he didn't though Case closed. Two years in a row Josh had the ball in his hands on the final drive to take the lead. He didn’t come through. Quote
BananaB Posted January 27 Posted January 27 1 minute ago, BillMafia716ix said: Case closed. Two years in a row Josh had the ball in his hands on the final drive to take the lead. He didn’t come through. Can’t catch the ball himself. Probably be our best TE if he switched positions though. 1 Quote
Mr. WEO Posted January 27 Posted January 27 8 minutes ago, BananaB said: Can’t catch the ball himself. Probably be our best TE if he switched positions though. very low bar... 1 1 Quote
TheFunPolice Posted January 27 Posted January 27 It's also offensive philosophy and personnel usage. Cook was basically unstoppable yet he's on the sidelines for those crucial end of game plays. That's a miss. Also, in critical situations the coaches trust the run on 1st and 2nd down and leave Josh 1 play to get it done. What did KC do to run out the clock at the end? Run the ball once just to get the clock moving, then 2 big pass plays that were schemed up to where the only way to stop them was the RB/WR dropping the ball. 1 Quote
Matt_In_NH Posted January 27 Posted January 27 34 minutes ago, HamptonBillsfan said: Once in regulation and why are you trying to say our defense played well. What’s the point you’re trying to make? Can you quote where I said the defense played well? I actually just made a joke/sarcastic post becuase you meant to say the Chiefs never score "more than 30 points" but go on with your narrative making........ Quote
78thealltimegreat Posted January 27 Posted January 27 22 minutes ago, BillMafia716ix said: Case closed. Two years in a row Josh had the ball in his hands on the final drive to take the lead. He didn’t come through. Oh this is his fault? 1 Quote
harmonkillebrew Posted January 27 Posted January 27 47 minutes ago, BillMafia716ix said: Case closed. Two years in a row Josh had the ball in his hands on the final drive to take the lead. He didn’t come through. He's not always as clutch as we'd like. That last set of downs was bad. He also screwed up the tush push multiple times for some reason. But you can't blame him entirely either or say he choked. KC has a good D. It was a battle Quote
90sBills Posted January 27 Posted January 27 28 minutes ago, 78thealltimegreat said: Oh this is his fault? It would’ve been nice if he slid protection to the right pre-snap. Quote
GreenMtnBillsFan Posted January 27 Posted January 27 6 minutes ago, 90sBills said: It would’ve been nice if he slid protection to the right pre-snap. Certainly yes, but O'Cyrus Torrence said to the media that Spagnolo had shown that same pressure look all night long and then on this one play in a key moment, sent the complete opposite side to blitz. Not really much you can do there except try to mitigate the play as it happens. Josh made an amazing throw on a play where the KC defense/coaching outmaneuvered us big time. Quote
Allen2Moulds Posted January 27 Posted January 27 1 hour ago, BillMafia716ix said: Case closed. Two years in a row Josh had the ball in his hands on the final drive to take the lead. He didn’t come through. That is the over simplified take, and admittedly I felt like that initially, but after I let things settled, it came down to (2) things. We got outcoached and outmanned. But I put a bit more of the responsibility on Beane. We've had the same shortcomings, a couple years in a row. For those that say he should of thrown it to Shakir on that last play, hasn't watched the play closely enough. When the first guy closes quickly on Allen, Shakir is very far from the sticks, and likely gets tackled short. He made an amazing effort to avoid and give his pass catcher a chance. I know it wasn't an easy ball to catch, but as a first round TE, in a conf championship game, you have to come down with that ball. Those are championship moments. I immediately thought of the Diggs drop last year. Quote
90sBills Posted January 27 Posted January 27 8 minutes ago, GreenMtnBillsFan said: Certainly yes, but O'Cyrus Torrence said to the media that Spagnolo had shown that same pressure look all night long and then on this one play in a key moment, sent the complete opposite side to blitz. Not really much you can do there except try to mitigate the play as it happens. Josh made an amazing throw on a play where the KC defense/coaching outmaneuvered us big time. Yes. Spags was setting them up. It’s his MO. Sometimes it feels like we’re so outmatched and outclassed. Year after year. 1 Quote
HappyDays Posted January 27 Posted January 27 (edited) 1 hour ago, 90sBills said: That was a legacy defining moment for him. It could have changed everything regarding his narrative with the media and NFL fans in general. A missed opportunity for sure. I haven't seen a lot of NFL media people talking about Allen's legacy today. Mostly they're talking about the drop and his teammates letting him down again. 34 minutes ago, 90sBills said: It would’ve been nice if he slid protection to the right pre-snap. It would have been nice if I had called scissors when my opponent called paper. Spags' brilliance is in his unpredictability. He has by far the best blitz packages in the NFL. There's no tell pre-snap. You're left guessing. Wouldn't have mattered anyways. I don't have confidence that Kincaid would have made the catch even if the play developed normally because he failed in every big moment last night. Edited January 27 by HappyDays 2 Quote
90sBills Posted January 27 Posted January 27 8 minutes ago, HappyDays said: I haven't seen a lot of NFL media people talking about Allen's legacy today. Mostly they're talking about the drop and his teammates letting him down again. It would have been nice if I had called scissors when my opponent called paper. Spags' brilliance is in his unpredictability. He has by far the best blitz packages in the NFL. There's no tell pre-snap. You're left guessing. Wouldn't have mattered anyways. I don't have confidence that Kincaid would have made the catch even if the play developed normally because he failed in every big moment last night. Watch more and give it time. You will. This will be his narrative. Even Orlovsky, who’s usually very high on Allen and the Bills, alluded to a missed opportunity to win the game with 3 minutes left and the ball. Yeah Spags is brilliant. He was setting them up all game with that formation. Unleashed it at the most important moment of the game. That’s who our opponent is. Sometimes it just feels like the Bills are so outclassed when they go up against KC in the playoffs. However, that was 4th down. If we had executed the first 3 downs it wouldn’t have come to that. The offense had a shot and missed. That’s the game. 1 Quote
Niagara Dude Posted January 27 Posted January 27 32 minutes ago, GreenMtnBillsFan said: Certainly yes, but O'Cyrus Torrence said to the media that Spagnolo had shown that same pressure look all night long and then on this one play in a key moment, sent the complete opposite side to blitz. Not really much you can do there except try to mitigate the play as it happens. Josh made an amazing throw on a play where the KC defense/coaching outmaneuvered us big time. They set it up for most important moment of the game, the question is why does McDermott learn from this moment and do the same 1 Quote
GreenMtnBillsFan Posted January 27 Posted January 27 Just now, Niagara Dude said: They set it up for most important moment of the game, the question is why does McDermott learn from this moment and do the same 10000% agree with you. It's beyond frustrating that this coaching staff can't seem to figure out how to counter these punches over and over, meanwhile KC is out here debuting plays that aren't even on tape and scheming guys wide open all night long. I do appreciate (whether it worked or not) McDermott's aggressiveness as a whole this season and as much as he frustrates me, I do think he made strides, however, it's the same story again and again with KC in the playoffs and I just don't know what else he can do to get us over this hump. Quote
HOUSE Posted January 27 Posted January 27 I would say not running in the first half was a coaching choke. Quote
dayman Posted January 27 Author Posted January 27 I just don’t get the “good enough” comments. I’m not trolling. Seriously confused. He would not say he was good enough. You beat the Chiefs by nailing the coffin in the final minutes. He didn’t. And yes, he misread that last play despite the drop he had Shakir instead he rolled into the pressure and chucked it. 1 Quote
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