Is Josh Allen this eras Dan Marino

[Billsfanatic8989]

6 minutes ago, ganesh said:

Great comparison.

Yup.

 

The Knicks did make it in 94 against Houston. But Jordan was retired. 

 

Mahomes isn't retiring. 

 

Allen needs his Pat Riley and a great supporting cast. Someone better than Starks and company.

[Harold Jackson]

46 minutes ago, Bferra13 said:

He's a first ballot hofer with all the records he's broke. And he's still in his 20s. 

He's not 

Hall of fame anything till he gets in a SB at least, maybe. Passing yards are a dime a dozen and everyone is getting them.

They obviously have to change the criteria in an era where it's not even hard to move down field on offense.

 

 

[Freddie's Dead]

No, McDummy is this eras Shula.  

[loyal2dagame]

53 minutes ago, Billsfanatic8989 said:

Mahomes is Jordan with Phil Jackson

 

Allen is Ewing (albeit way better) with Van Gundy

 

 

 

 

Ewing wouldn't have won a championship no matter who his coach was

[Matt_In_NH]

57 minutes ago, thenorthremembers said:

He's getting very close to being Phillip Rivers.

He has two more playoff wins than rivers.  

[Bferra13]

1 minute ago, Harold Jackson said:

He's not 

Hall of fame anything till he gets in a SB at least, maybe. Passing yards are a dime a dozen and everyone is getting them.

They obviously have to change the criteria in an era where it's not even hard to move down field on offense.

 

 

We'll see. He keeps this trajectory SB or not he's guaranteed. 

[Nephilim17]

I think his records will get him into the HOF — even without a championship. Rivers didn't rewrite the record book like Allen is doing.

But it pains me to say it that I think Allen is a tick less clutch than Mahomes. To be clear, I think Allen is great but I think Mahomes is more consistently just a hair greater in the playoffs. 

Flame away...

[Cursed]

2 minutes ago, Matt_In_NH said:

He has two more playoff wins than rivers.  

Yipee Ki-Yay?  You happy to be losing in the AFC Championship game?  Nobody remembers 2nd (or 3rd/4th) place

[CincyBillsFan]

57 minutes ago, Johnnycage46 said:

He will never win a Super Bowl and will largely be forgotten in time except for diehard NFL fans.

 

No rings, no glory, no legacy except as a guy who couldn't get it done (fairly or unfairly).

He will be to well represented in the QB record books to be forgotten. 

 

In the end even if he never actually makes a Super Bowl his continuous playoff successes & close losses combined with his record setting play both in the regular AND post season will keep Allen in the minds of a lot of NFL fans.  He will be a cautionary tale for any future spectacular QB's who are fated to be in an organization that just couldn't get it done.

 

 

 

 

3 minutes ago, Nephilim17 said:

I think his records will get him into the HOF — even without a championship. Rivers didn't rewrite the record book like Allen is doing.

But it pains me to say it that I think Allen is a tick less clutch than Mahomes. To be clear, I think Allen is great but I think Mahomes is more consistently just a hair greater in the playoffs. 

Flame away...

You are spot on my man.  If Allen continues doing over the next 5 years exactly what he's done so far he will be a first ballot HOFer. 

[Cursed]

Bad News... nobody values our guys like we value our guys. 

[LABILLBACKER]

1 hour ago, SirAndrew said:

No, Marino played in a Super Bowl. It could be an even more disappointing story. 

Yup, this league may never let Josh step near a SB.  Not while his Lord & Savior Patrick roams the earth.  Besides Sean will never build a defense as tough as KC or Philly.  There's a reason Andy fired his ass.

[CincyBillsFan]

37 minutes ago, reddogblitz said:

 

Jim Kelly

Dan Marino

Dan Fouts 

Fran Tarkenton

Warren Moon

Sonny Jurgensen

A lot of NFL fans remember each and every one of those guys.

 

 

19 minutes ago, DapperCam said:

Allen actually plays a lot better than Marino did in the playoffs and has a better record to show for it.

This is absolutely true and supported by the stats.  That Allen is only 7 - 6 in the playoffs with the numbers he's put up is a powerful indictment of the rest of the organization. 

[Maine-iac]

Brees didn't go to a SB until something like his 9th year in the league.  You need a little luck and before that you need a really good team.  With all that said you need to start by being in the playoffs every year.  Like I said in another post, many said we weren't even going to make the playoffs this year.  You just never know.  

[Goin Breakdown]

1 hour ago, thenorthremembers said:

He's getting very close to being Phillip Rivers.

He's a more talented more exciting but same results Rivers. Thats what it'll boil down to. He'll be a local Bills

legend, viewed as a great player by many and that'll be about it I fear. 

[TrentEdwardsCheckDownOn4th]

1 hour ago, BuffBills51 said:

The title says it all. Marino was probably the best quarterback of his time and never won the big game. Allen is the most talented quarterback in the NFL but consistently gets let down by his coaches and teammates. 

Dumbest ***** ever. Marino had some terrible playoff games.

 

Allen is almost perfect every post season , he just has ***** teammates and ran into the NFLs hand picked dynasty 

[ExiledInIllinois]

Allen is still two years away age-wise from playing in his first SuperBowl like Peyton Manning.

 

Allen might be this generation's Manning.

 

 

 

Look how long it took LeBron?

The joke was: "Don't ask LeBron to make change for a dollar, he'd only give you 3 quarters back." LoL...

[Process]

What does that make Lamar? Burrow?

[ExiledInIllinois]

6 minutes ago, TrentEdwardsCheckDownOn4th said:

Dumbest ***** ever. Marino had some terrible playoff games.

 

Allen is almost perfect every post season , he just has ***** teammates and ran into the NFLs hand picked dynasty 

Yup....And now the machines/tech

 

 

1 minute ago, Process said:

What does that make Lamar? Burrow?

Bernie Kosar & Dan Fouts... lol

[MikePJ76]

The comparison makes no sense in any way.  

 

There is not a single similarity.  

[Matt_In_NH]

6 hours ago, Cursed said:

Yipee Ki-Yay?  You happy to be losing in the AFC Championship game?  Nobody remembers 2nd (or 3rd/4th) place

Calm down dude.  I can be unhappy and your comparison can be wrong at the same time.