Just some thoughts before I log off for a while...

[ALLinALLEN]

9 hours ago, Zerovoltz said:

I remember a time when I felt like this as a Chiefs fan.  After all the first round losses with Marty....and the high flying offenses with Vermiel that came along with a defense that could stop no one....and then the dark ages of Scot Pioli....a LB shooting himself in the head in the parking lot...I'd had enough.....was emotionaly invested and kept wondering why I cared so much?  ....but what I found when I stepped back some, was that I enjoyed the sport, the drama, even the complaining and questioning what was going on with my team.....I missed it...even the bad losing parts..because ....It was just a natural part of who I am and what I like.  I couldn't quit if I wanted to...no matter how bad it got.  .....I just had to adjust a little and realize that football was something I did for entertainment...win or lose....not base my whole outlook on winning or losing...just to enjoy it for what it is....a game that we analyze and follow and form opinions on and study....its a great game and it's fun to be a fan...even when things are at rock bottom.  I'd bet after you stepped back for a bit...you'd find you'd miss it...even if the Bills were 7-10....you'd miss the 2nd guessing and the FA signings and draft.....the tinge of hope every training camp....that maybe this is the year.  

 

I know...easy for me to say now...but I've been there.  

Easy to have this full circle wow everything is beautiful moment when you win 2 in a row, 3 total, and been to the afc championship the past 7 years. With all due respect please go to your home 

[Livinginthepast]

10 hours ago, buffblue said:

All I know is if the situation was reversed and Mahomes made that throw (and let's give credit where it is due, Mahomes is capable of it), his receiver would've caught the ball. Kincaid didn't

Think Ely's throw to Tyree who caught it off the helmet in the SB.  A much harder grab also under intense pressure but he did it.  Against the Pats no less. Or Edelman's vs the Falcons!  Kincaid's was easy by comparison and he bungled it. A professional player should never drop that. It was easier than the Diggs drop last season and far easier than the broken up pass to the end zone that Duke Williams couldnt bring down vs Houston in the wildcard in 2019. 

[Norcalbillsfan]

48 minutes ago, Jerome007 said:

Oh I agree. Totally. Yet, I also agreed with the gamble. Many fans talk about "wasting Josh's prime years". This was a move to win NOW. The injury really changed everything.

 

Agreed I'm not saying I disagree with it when the deal was done. But unfortunately the result couldn't have gone worse.

[scuba guy]

So Virgil I am going to pitch in.

 

Greg was  hoping blocked 3 times by yes no other than the moving tackle.

 

It is a penalty if you go low and is called all the time by rbs chopping de.  But not these times.

 

I myself have to chamend Phillips he went into the endzone and headbutted kelce after Travis did it to Douglas.  And was taunting him.  

Yes many people on this board where outraged when gronk did it to tre.  

The point is Jordan eas not letting a player on his team get bullied.

 

As for the defense and people saying let's get rid of coach and bean.  Just watch the line judge walk from the sidelines to the ball placement on the 2nd last drive, clearly it was a first down from his eyes than walked backwards.  All about the spot and check the replays the ball spotting was bad for us.

 

So yeah let's blame the d for a bad game when all we ask for is the ball in Josh's hands last to win.  Well on 4th down we did not get it done.

[Repulsif]

This post will be probably lost in a swarm of other posts.

 

History won't remember we got hosed again in a playoff game

 

History will remember mc Dermot as shottenheimer poor's man version

 

History will remember the 2020s bills as the 2005s chargers poor man version

 

History will remember Josh Allen as a Philip Rivers better man's version

 

Like it or not, that's the way it is for now

 

[Chandler#81]

Jmo but I’m happy you’re going away for awhile. 🤷‍♂️

[John Gianelli]

12 hours ago, Virgil said:

I know that I'm breaking the cardinal rule of posting so soon after a hard loss, but I honestly just want to be away from all things Bills for a while.  Honestly, I've been feeling this way since before the Ravens game.  These playoffs weren't fun for me because I hated the narratives (that ended up being true).  Even when we won, and no matter what we did in the playoffs, the Bills were never going to be anything to rest of the world if we didn't win a Super Bowl (which is completely an unfair expectation that doesn't seem to be held to anyone else beyond possibly the Ravens). 

 

Granted, finishing with the second seed so many times and being "regular season heroes," it does feel like the regular season feels pointless on some level to us.  

 

With all that being said, I will leave it at that and sign off:

 

-Josh picked the wrong day to be "Sugar High Josh."  Of all the things I didn't think would happen today, it was Josh failing to be the Josh we've seen all season.  He recovered in the second half, but he was terrible for most of first half.  Inaccurate, jittery, and almost threw multiple pics.  We were still in it, and he had the ball in his hand to win it at the end, but came up short. (Another narrative he won't be able to shake)

-Brady called his worst game of the season and was way too one dimensional.  We didn't run the ball at all in the first half and then ran is almost too much in the second.  We were predictable and sickening.  What was that playcalling on the last drive?  Where was Cook?  

-Elam should have been cut at halftime.  If there was any debate as to how bad a pick Elam was, it's long been decided now

-I know people want to harp on the 4th down turnover on downs, and maybe it was a first down, but also credit to the Chiefs for shutting that play down multiple times.  

-Groot ended up on the ground on more plays than I can count.  I have no idea how, but so many of Mahomes' runs were because Groot was leveraged to the inside or flat on his butt.  Just a terrible performance

-We've run 6 offensive lineman as much, if not more, than any other team and we couldn't figure out how to line up in this game?  What was that about?

-We can focus on the Kincaid drop all we want, but where was Kincaid and Knox the entire game?  I just don't get what Brady was doing.

-McD's post game presser focusing most of his answers on Benford getting hurt was infuriating to me.  Play Ingram or Lewis.  

-The Coaching Staff, and not just McD beat themselves. If you ever needed a game to prove that the Chiefs live in our head, it was this game.  Josh started out of sorts.  Everything we did well all season, we didn't implement until the second half.  Everyone was out-thinking themselves and it's rough

-3 of our last 4 overall first picks were Elam, Kincaid, and Coleman.  For as many great picks Beane has made, this is inexcusable.  

 

I wish I could have enjoyed the ride and take pride in making the AFC Championship, but I just can't.  I'm so sick of the narratives.  The Bills can't get it done.  The Bills messed up by trading the pick to the Chiefs that resulted in Worthy.  Josh can't come from behind and win.  The Bills can't win a road playoff road game.  The Bills finally lost a game and won the turnover battle.  Josh is the first QB to go 0-4 against another QB in the playoffs ever.

 

Out of all of the things I just mentioned, my biggest issue is that I have no idea what the Bills can do differently to change this outcome.  Our offensive is our offense, that is not going to change this offseason.  We are bringing everyone back, minus Cooper (but who cares).  We will probably pay Groot, and the money we do have available will most likely go to our own guys.  The Ravens are going to roll it back, the Chiefs are the Chiefs, and I have no reason to expect anything to change.  We are the bridesmaid.  We are the almost was.  

 

But most of all, I'm mad at myself for starting to Billieve.  I had thoughts of a parade and what winning it all would be like.  But now I get to skip another Super Bowl because I hate the idea of the Chiefs or Eagles winning it all.  Just a terrible outcome either way.

 

I wish I could say it was a fun time, but 🤢

So darn accurate. One thing to add. Did you see Elam just standing there, flailing his arms as such on Mahomes' second touchdown? Really bad.

 

[Virgil]

4 hours ago, Chandler#81 said:

Jmo but I’m happy you’re going away for awhile. 🤷‍♂️

 

I have no idea what your issue is with me, but why you feel the urge to keeping taking shots is beyond me.  Do what I do and ignore me on the board.  You don't need to comment on my posts or interact with me.  

 

I'll ignore you, and you can ignore me.  

[LifeLongBillsFan]

16 hours ago, Jerome007 said:

For all the legit talk about Elam and Kincaid, where was VonMiller? He made one good spin move that caused Mahomes to bail early. That's... it. And Rousseau didn't make a huge impact, nor Epenasa. Josh's runs except one were nothing. The OLine couldn't pass protect while they've been so great all year. Just... WHY

 

For all that, they only loss by 3.

 

Hollins must be resigned! He came to play

why is Von Miller even on this team and why agree to play a washed up player so much?

We should have pivoted two years ago - it makes no sense 

[Maine-iac]

 

My best attempt at some positive vibes.  

[cale]

16 hours ago, PromoTheRobot said:

You have to be a regular season hero to get the chance to play in this game. Don't act like making the playoffs is nothing. I lived though a 17-year drought where we all got giddy for being "in the hunt" and winning the division was a pipe dream.

absolutely. But the reason we are even in the conversation now is because we hit on a generational QB. And we’re wasting him, because our FO/HC can’t get their heads out of their asses. Should have drafted Worthy. So obsessed with Keon and size and being crowd friendly. Well Worthy played all season and was a game changer.

 

We started out the season with low expectations cause of turnover and the cap. We should have cap room now in the offseason. 
 

I think Shakir is all world. But we need a dependable receiver on the other side, someone who can consistently get to the QB and a stud DB. Who can safely shut one side of the field down at home.

 

Our D Line makes me nauseous. So much money invested in the line for not much production.

 

[Old Coot]

17 hours ago, Virgil said:

McD's post game presser focusing most of his answers on Benford getting hurt was infuriating

When McD was asked before heading into the lockerroom at halftime he was asked about Benford's injury. He immediately got a deer-in-the-headlights look but recovered quickly. That tells you all you need to know re what he thinks of Elam.

 

One could argue that Elam single-handedly lost the game for us. How many times did Mahomes take off running to his right when he saw Elam's very soft coverage on that side.

[Warriorspikes51]

17 hours ago, Zerovoltz said:

First...another epic game...not that it consoles any Bills fans..but the Bills are a championship caliber team.  

 

Second.  On the 4th down play...I can't argue if he made it or not.  What I have to say about it is, it was ruled short on the field...and the replay, you can't see the ball...so I don't know how you over turn that.  I will say I don't understand why it was automatically reviewed.  I don't get why the Bills didn't have to throw a red flag on that...they are given a free challenge there.  (not that it mattered)

 

Third....If Kincaid makes that catch (and he probably shoud have) then that is a legendary play and it's all anyone is talking about now and all next week.  That was a heroic throw by Allen.  I thought he had it for the briefest of moments and my heart dropped to my stomach.  

 

Fourth...There were 4 Bills fumble and the Bils recovered all 4.  and a couple of passes Allen threw that the Chiefs DB's dropped...that wa 6 TO worthy plays and the Chiefs went 0/6 on those...while KC fumbled once...on a botched handoff..and the Bills got it.  The bounces were in the Bills favor.  

 

Fifth...Pacheco went OB on the first down late...gifitng the Bills more or less another TO...wich at least gave the Bill one last chance before Perine caught the dagger.

 

I will tell you regardless of what KC does in the superbowl....KC is up against it with the cap this offseason...there will be some very very painful goodbyes and the roster will churn...perhaps the AFC will be more wide open next year than it's been in a while and the Bills finally break through.  We'll see.

 

Hopefully our teams will battling it out again for high stakes next year...it's always an exciting matchup.  

 

Respectfully - Zero.  

 

There are 2 clear images that show the ball is over the line to gain from the broadcast. 

Not to mention, the one ref originally first down....and was somehow overruled 

your post is pretty classy so tip of the cap to you.....but Chiefs games are rigged to the extent that is possible to do so in critical moments with ANY ruling (see Worthy's "catch" when half the ball hits the ground with no control)  and ball spots all game were blatantly in KC's favor 

 

 

 

9 minutes ago, Old Coot said:

When McD was asked before heading into the lockerroom at halftime he was asked about Benford's injury. He immediately got a deer-in-the-headlights look but recovered quickly. That tells you all you need to know re what he thinks of Elam.

 

One could argue that Elam single-handedly lost the game for us. How many times did Mahomes take off running to his right when he saw Elam's very soft coverage on that side.

Why wasn't Ingram given a chance???  He had 2 ints of Tua early in the season when put on the field

I really don't get it. 

Edited Monday at 09:12 PM by Warriorspikes51

[Riverboat Ritchie]

17 hours ago, Zerovoltz said:

First...another epic game...not that it consoles any Bills fans..but the Bills are a championship caliber team.  

 

Second.  On the 4th down play...I can't argue if he made it or not.  What I have to say about it is, it was ruled short on the field...and the replay, you can't see the ball...so I don't know how you over turn that.  I will say I don't understand why it was automatically reviewed.  I don't get why the Bills didn't have to throw a red flag on that...they are given a free challenge there.  (not that it mattered)

 

Third....If Kincaid makes that catch (and he probably shoud have) then that is a legendary play and it's all anyone is talking about now and all next week.  That was a heroic throw by Allen.  I thought he had it for the briefest of moments and my heart dropped to my stomach.  

 

Fourth...There were 4 Bills fumble and the Bils recovered all 4.  and a couple of passes Allen threw that the Chiefs DB's dropped...that wa 6 TO worthy plays and the Chiefs went 0/6 on those...while KC fumbled once...on a botched handoff..and the Bills got it.  The bounces were in the Bills favor.  

 

Fifth...Pacheco went OB on the first down late...gifitng the Bills more or less another TO...wich at least gave the Bill one last chance before Perine caught the dagger.

 

I will tell you regardless of what KC does in the superbowl....KC is up against it with the cap this offseason...there will be some very very painful goodbyes and the roster will churn...perhaps the AFC will be more wide open next year than it's been in a while and the Bills finally break through.  We'll see.

 

Hopefully our teams will battling it out again for high stakes next year...it's always an exciting matchup.  

 

Respectfully - Zero.  

What a tool 

[PromoTheRobot]

1 hour ago, cale said:

absolutely. But the reason we are even in the conversation now is because we hit on a generational QB. And we’re wasting him, because our FO/HC can’t get their heads out of their asses. Should have drafted Worthy. So obsessed with Keon and size and being crowd friendly. Well Worthy played all season and was a game changer.

 

We started out the season with low expectations cause of turnover and the cap. We should have cap room now in the offseason. 
 

I think Shakir is all world. But we need a dependable receiver on the other side, someone who can consistently get to the QB and a stud DB. Who can safely shut one side of the field down at home.

 

Our D Line makes me nauseous. So much money invested in the line for not much production.

 

 

I think we can move on from Von next year and we will be out of the Diggs dead cap. The Bills are still an attractive team for free agents.

[Sweats]

I think i'm going to log off for a while myself and i'm not sure how much NFL i'm going to watch next season.

 

I'm a lifelong Bills fan and i own everything Bills, Bills tattoos, etc. but it's killing me, and todays NFL narratives just don't sit right with me........Hey, if you know, you know.

 

It'll give me more time to focus on college ball (my one true passion.......the Bills too, but i might have to step away for a while and let everything just settle a bit).

[Maine-iac]

7 hours ago, Livinginthepast said:

Think Ely's throw to Tyree who caught it off the helmet in the SB.  A much harder grab also under intense pressure but he did it.  Against the Pats no less. Or Edelman's vs the Falcons!  Kincaid's was easy by comparison and he bungled it. A professional player should never drop that. It was easier than the Diggs drop last season and far easier than the broken up pass to the end zone that Duke Williams couldnt bring down vs Houston in the wildcard in 2019. 

Mark Andrews is saying "hold my beer".

[BearNorth]

18 hours ago, DeltaDigital said:

Won’t matter. They won a Super Bowl with 11 rookies a few years ago. 

If you have a QB who is being paid [e.g. not on a rookie contract], You will have to have 8-12 rookies, UDFA's on your roster to stay under the cap.  I see Mahomes cap hit next year is like $66MM. That's the new NFL - Probably 12 guys making big bucks, and a bunch at league minimum.

[Trust The Process]

18 hours ago, Johnnycage46 said:

Why would a chiefs fans come here, right now, of all times.

Because they ***** on opposing team's miseries, and they embrace the villain role. Most of their fanbase and KC sports media really believe 31 fan bases hate on the Chiefs and complain about the refs because they're ''jealous of our success''. NOT! Such classless egotistic bastards. There will forever be an *asterisk* for their success because of the blatant bias from the refs, which makes Chiefs fans seethe. I'd also like to add, they have an unhealthy obsession with the Bills, they talk about us on their message boards more than usual even though we're not playing them that week. Never seen a fanbase wish injury on Bills players like Chiefs fans do. They'll sell their soul for a win and a Super Bowl title. They also berate and gang up on their own Chiefs fans for saying anything remotely negative or concern for the Chiefs. Disgusting. No fan base deserves more misery than the Chiefs fan base.

Edited Monday at 10:44 PM by Trust The Process

[Pete]

2 hours ago, LifeLongBillsFan said:

why is Von Miller even on this team and why agree to play a washed up player so much?

We should have pivoted two years ago - it makes no sense 

$100+ million with serious cap ramifications - what great pass rusher are you acquiring and with what money?  Von will be gone real soon, so don’t worry