Joe Brady and Aaron Kromer had a rough night

[stevewin]

There's about a million threads where people mention it was dumb to do the 'push tush' so many times.  I have no problem with the call - it was the execution.  Half of them weren't even true 'tush pushes' - with Josh going low and a big person (or persons) pushing from behind.  Some had no push at all.  The only thing I would have said was be prepared to pick another gap - make the call at the line which gap you are going into.  Didn't seem like they were prepared to do that.  Esp w/ that I think a true tush push (Josh picking the gap pre-snap and going low with a big man pushing) would have worked 100%

[Cray51]

On 1/26/2025 at 10:12 PM, FireChans said:

Incorrect. Shakir ran a bubble/orbit on the left side and had 15 yards of green grass ahead of him. 
 

Torrence whiffed on his block and there were TWO free rushers in Josh’s face. 

And to add to this - the Bills did understand they were blitzing, they simply shifted the line to the wrong side (to the left).  They knew what was coming, they just read it incorrectly.

[LABILLBACKER]

On 1/26/2025 at 7:18 PM, FireChans said:

The built in checkdown is where the ball is supposed to go if they send the house, which they did.

 

Josh needed 1 extra second and had zero, namely because of Torrence.

2 straight years when we've needed our OL to stand firm late in a game, they fail. Dion getting pushed into Josh causing an erant throw to Shakir and this year everyone reading the shift wrong.

[Einstein]

3 hours ago, Julio Hopkins said:

 

There was only two realistic results from Brady's play.  They identify the blitz correctly and the line holds up long enough to get Kincaid the ball or the blitz isn't handled correctly leading to Shakir getting the ball 15 yards short of the marker.  Which means that Kincaid was the only reasonable opportunity to get the first down.  

 

The problems start with Spags already knowing that Brady was going to sit on the same thing he's been running all year.  

 

 

 

Correct.

 

Even if we had blocked properly, the only real option was going to be Kincaid. I mean, you can throw the orbit but he likely isn’t getting the first with the wall of Chiefs defenders there.

Any time the opposing team knows your play, you’re screwed.

[LabattBlue]

One play call that Brady needs to shitcan…student body right with Allen carrying the ball.  You are begging for him to get hurt on a running play that does not put him in open space. 

[TurfToeJam]

I've always fealt great coaching is all about ability to make adjustments.  This takes years to learn to read the field on the fly.  Bills have an amateur O.C. with minimal experience.  He did a pretty good job throughout the season.  Problem is playoffs are one  loss and your out.  Brady was no match against Andy Reid.  

 

Brady may someday be an excellent O.C.. But we need an experienced guy NOW so we don't waste Allen.  

 

When I heard that Brady asked the players what plays they liked, I cringed.  This isn't backyard football.  Coaches should coach the players.  Not other way around.

[LabattBlue]

46 minutes ago, TurfToeJam said:

I've always fealt great coaching is all about ability to make adjustments.  This takes years to learn to read the field on the fly.  Bills have an amateur O.C. with minimal experience.  He did a pretty good job throughout the season.  Problem is playoffs are one  loss and your out.  Brady was no match against Andy Reid.  

 

Brady may someday be an excellent O.C.. But we need an experienced guy NOW so we don't waste Allen.  

 

When I heard that Brady asked the players what plays they liked, I cringed.  This isn't backyard football.  Coaches should coach the players.  Not other way around.

You mean Brady was no match for Spags? 😉

[Buffalo Barbarian]

On 1/26/2025 at 10:10 PM, Einstein said:

29 points be damned.

 

- How many times did he watch KC stuff our QB sneak and then he continued to do it!?!? Over and over and over. KC is coached extremely well and knew exactly how to stop it. They blockaded that right side that Josh likes to go to it and he still went to it repeatedly.

 

- Know that play-action roll out play that KC loves where Mahomes can either throw it to the RB or keep it? Yeah, we ran that twice all game. Both times picked up big yards. Never saw it again.

 

- He and Kromer never adjusted the line (or the play-calling) to deal with the pass rush. The final 4th down call was a pick play with crossers that REQUIRES 2-3 seconds to get guys open. Spags knew this and sent the house. Brady apparently didn’t know this!?

 

- Cook didn’t touch the ball once that last drive. And it wasn’t a time issue (we had a full 3 minutes).

 

- A low percentage fade to Coleman on 3rd down with the game on the line?

 

Flame away, but I miss Daboll. I always felt confident with Daboll that we were going to drive the field at the end of games. The only concern I had was the defense. Daboll adjusted mid-game.

 

 

 

Dabol never ran the ball. Bring him back as a passing game coordinator

 

 

[Einstein]

42 minutes ago, LabattBlue said:

You mean Brady was no match for Spags? 😉

Fitzpatrick commented today that the blitz Spags sent was “impossible” to block with a 5 man line. 

 

Which is what I said earlier - the play was doomed from the start.

 

It didn’t matter if we slid protection right or not. Would it have bought Josh another half second? Sure.

 

But even with that, the play was doomed because Spags knew what the play was and set the perfect defense for it. Brady went to the same well too many times. 

 

[colin]

9 hours ago, GunnerBill said:

 

I don't agree the play was doomed from the start. I do agee that Torrence clearly screwed the pooch whatever the line adjustment was.

 

why are you defending these play calls?  

 

the degree of difficulty they impose on the offense is insane, vs the best blitzing dc and a great d on the road.  and it's a play and a formation we've run many times on 4th down.  don't you expect a good coach to change it up, or do something different to break tendencies?

[GunnerBill]

1 minute ago, colin said:

 

why are you defending these play calls?  

 

the degree of difficulty they impose on the offense is insane, vs the best blitzing dc and a great d on the road.  and it's a play and a formation we've run many times on 4th down.  don't you expect a good coach to change it up, or do something different to break tendencies?

 

I think we did too much trying to break tendencies the first half and it resulted in a 21-10 hole. The Bills were better 2nd half because they played Buffalo Bills football. They came up short. They overall didn't coach it well enough and didn't execute it well enough. I don't believe that 4th down was "doomed from the start." I believe Spags won the down, but doomed from the start? No.

[Buffalo Barbarian]

25 minutes ago, Einstein said:

Fitzpatrick commented today that the blitz Spags sent was “impossible” to block with a 5 man line. 

 

Which is what I said earlier - the play was doomed from the start.

 

It didn’t matter if we slid protection right or not. Would it have bought Josh another half second? Sure.

 

But even with that, the play was doomed because Spags knew what the play was and set the perfect defense for it. Brady went to the same well too many times. 

 

 

i wish Josh could have run left when he saw all those guys blitzing, but it happened so fast he did the best he could by hitting Kincaid in the hands.