Is it time to move on from McDermott?

[DaVinci]

13 hours ago, Goin Breakdown said:

Trust the process. I'm not even sure what that means 9 years later

 

[Jrb1979]

28 minutes ago, billsfan89 said:

 

The Bills massively overachieved this season despite eating a lot of dead cap via gutting a lot of veteran talent. Seems like McBeane proved this season they deserve a shot to take a roster that is already very good and add the final pieces to get over the top. This team was in the middle of a 17 year playoff drought in McD's first season and McD broke that drought with a team that was massively undertalented. The Bills showed prudence as an organization and didn't over invest in repeating those results and gutted the team so that in 2019 they could give Josh more talent. In 2020 they added a big piece in Diggs and the Bills were contenders. 

 

There will come a point where McD needs to go, but I think this season shows that McBeane may know what they are doing more so than fans who just want to fire coaches and GM's with great track records because they can't think of any other legitimate reasons why teams don't win a Super Bowl so just fire the coach and replace them with someone else who they will just blame for arbitrary reasons. 

 

Another big reason I don't see the need to move on from McD just yet is because McD has adapted as a coach. He was too conservative he's now one of the more aggressive coaches on 4th down and other in game decisions. He was too loyal and he has since proved he's willing to move on from coordinators and assistants not getting the job done. He's even brining in coaches from other organizations and schemes to expand his coaching staff. Even in 2023 when that article came out he adjusted his coaching style to be different and the team rallied around him to rattle off 5 straight to end the season and win the division and two seed. 

 

If McD was doing the same thing over and over again being too conservative and unwilling to move on from assistants while also being very ridged in his approach I would say your point might be taken. But I just don't think that's been the case at all. 

He has been doing the same thing over and over again in regards to defense.  It continues to be the reason they lose in the playoffs every season.  His philosophy of complimentary football doesn't work nor does his stop the deep play defense work against the best teams. 

 

 

[Pine Barrens Mafia]

22 hours ago, bobobonators said:

Drafting Shakir and signing Mack Hollins were both great moves. Keon was showing flashes before the injury. The guy missed 4? or 5 weeks with that injury, derailing his season. 

None of these guys are legitimate receiving threats. What'd Hollins have, 400 yards on the season? Shakir what, 600?

 

Come on man 

[Pete]

23 hours ago, Gregg said:

 

Marv had more success taking the Bills to 4 Super Bowls. Saban had more success winning back-to-back AFL championships.

Saban and those 64 Bills teams were awesome.

Marv inherited a loaded Bills roster put together by Polian.  There are several hall of famers, and excllent players in all 3 phases.  That was the "bickering Bills",  several selfish players.   2025 Bills love each other, and are altruistic.

 

Neither compares to what McDermott has done.  He took over the Bills after a 17 year drought. It has been an amazing turnaround.  86-45 record. .656 winning %.  We have won a playoff game the past 6 years.

 

Yet ingrates want to run him out of town.

Edited 1 hour ago by Pete

[oldmanfan]

20 minutes ago, Pine Barrens Mafia said:

None of these guys are legitimate receiving threats. What'd Hollins have, 400 yards on the season? Shakir what, 600?

 

Come on man 

Shakir 821 yards.  Hollins 280 yards and 5 TDs.  Legitimate.

[Orlando Buffalo]

18 hours ago, billsfan714 said:

The Eagles have over 20 million in cap space and just won the SB.   We had 70 million in dead money this year and we are still over next season.   Yeah Beane can restructure but that just pushes money out to future years.   Jesus 2 key pieces on offense need to be signed(Cook and Shakir), where is this imaginary money coming from to sign some stud DL?   Get use to more underwhelming Beane signings like Smoot and Toohill.

Not sure if you even read what I wrote, because you are not arguing against anything I said. 

[GunnerBill]

1 hour ago, Pine Barrens Mafia said:

None of these guys are legitimate receiving threats. What'd Hollins have, 400 yards on the season? Shakir what, 600?

 

Come on man 

 

Shakir had 800 odd. But he is what he is. A good complimentary piece. Not a feature guy 

[Magox]

58 minutes ago, oldmanfan said:

Shakir 821 yards.  Hollins 280 yards and 5 TDs.  Legitimate.

The Bills don’t need a big time feature guy at the WR spot.   The Bills have solid complimentary and competent guys who as a unit under Brady’s system, with this offensive line and Josh Allen form an elite offense.

 

The only thing this offense lacks is a WR who can win vertically with speed.   They don’t need a top tier guy to fill that role.