Is it time to move on from McDermott?

[DuckyBoys]

Problem is everything went right with what we had to work with this season and they still couldn't get to the big dance.  Watching the game you could see how well prepared KC was and how easy the yardage came  with good schemes giving Mahomes easy looks time after time   

 

 1.His small nickel defense somehow survived the season relatively healthy going into the playoffs

2.  offense played complimentary turnover free and time chewing ball control

3.  Had a massive turnover difference

 

Gonna be awful tough to do all three yet again especially the little nickel defense staying healthy.   Beane has to hit on picks He's stunk  We need some elite talent besides Allen and Jimbo Cook

 

 

[Nihilarian]

Look, McD is the second best head coach in the NFL, and daydreaming about finding a better replacement is just that...Daydreaming! Look at all the head coaching changes over and over with little success.

 

Gotta have faith that something will happen to that KC team. Kelce retires and all the swifties go with him. Reid, Spags, and Mahomes Can't stay this lucky forever. The Buffalo Bills were a missed FG away from the SB last year and if you rewatch that Kincade drop play you would have seen Shakir wide open...3 points again this year.

 

For a supposed "rebuilding year" Buffalo was supposed to be behind the NY Jets and Miami to go 13-4 along with going to the AFC Championship game is darned awesome. Remember the 30-mill cap hit from Diggs tied up some possible moves. I like Von Miller a lot but alas he might be done. Speaking of Diggs the Bills were supposed to be headed into the toilet after losing their #1 WR.

Edited January 28 by Nihilarian

[GaryPinC]

Is it time to move on from McDermott?  Not yet.

 

But what is imperative is that he come up with a new focus and new direction, best on defense I think.

 

"Trust the Process"  is clearly flawed, that will eat away at the culture if unchanged. 

 McDermott and Beane have some serious work to do to refocus this team.

 

You can’t expect the team to keep buying into something that's not working well enough.

[Neo]

[streetkings01]

3 hours ago, McBean said:

I say yes and hire Spags.

 

You break up the KC dynasty and he can bring the closing DNA to this organization that this team so desperately needs.

Yea let’s hire the guy with the 11-41 coaching record 🙄

[PromoTheRobot]

2 hours ago, GaryPinC said:

Is it time to move on from McDermott?  Not yet.

 

But what is imperative is that he come up with a new focus and new direction, best on defense I think.

 

"Trust the Process"  is clearly flawed, that will eat away at the culture if unchanged. 

 McDermott and Beane have some serious work to do to refocus this team.

 

You can’t expect the team to keep buying into something that's not working well enough.

 

Yes. 15 wins and a 5th straight AFC East title, in a year you were picked to finish 3rd, clearly says "it ain't working."

[FireChans]

34 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said:

 

Yes. 15 wins and a 5th straight AFC East title, in a year you were picked to finish 3rd, clearly says "it ain't working."

Hang the banner baby

[klos63]

At the beginning of the season,  a lot of smart people thought we may take a step back after all the significant changes on the roster.

I felt that way too.

I think we should have one,  probably would have is not for a number of close calls that didn't go our way. 

But despite all of that,  we had the ball with 3 minutes to go,  3 timeouts left,  on the road against 2 time defending champs,  where a touchdown would get us to the super bowl. A pretty good season.

Maybe McDermott did an amazing job with what he had. 

Started the season without Milano, 2 safeties that probably weren't expected to start,,Edwards and Bishop were probably the plan.  No WR1 , 2 new coordinators.

Just a different perspective on the discussion. 

[Kelly to Allen]

5 hours ago, Nihilarian said:

Look, McD is the second best head coach in the NFL, and daydreaming about finding a better replacement is just that...Daydreaming! Look at all the head coaching changes over and over with little success.

 

Gotta have faith that something will happen to that KC team. Kelce retires and all the swifties go with him. Reid, Spags, and Mahomes Can't stay this lucky forever. The Buffalo Bills were a missed FG away from the SB last year and if you rewatch that Kincade drop play you would have seen Shakir wide open...3 points again this year.

 

For a supposed "rebuilding year" Buffalo was supposed to be behind the NY Jets and Miami to go 13-4 along with going to the AFC Championship game is darned awesome. Remember the 30-mill cap hit from Diggs tied up some possible moves. I like Von Miller a lot but alas he might be done. Speaking of Diggs the Bills were supposed to be headed into the toilet after losing their #1 WR.

 

He's a good leader. 

 

But he's dick jaroun with this eras John Elway.

 

He's not that guy. And Beane is overrated 

[BananaB]

4 hours ago, PromoTheRobot said:

 

Yes. 15 wins and a 5th straight AFC East title, in a year you were picked to finish 3rd, clearly says "it ain't working."

So because the talking heads were wrong he gets another pass for losing to the Chiefs again…. That’s basically what you are saying. 
 

Do you wanna win a Championship or not? McD coaching at critical times is still hurting this team. We seen it in the Houston and Rams game. We got lucky with a drop against the Ravens, and Sunday night was a total ***** show with all the qb sneaks when you were getting pushed around in the trenches. And you can’t convince that McD wasn’t over ruling Brady on those calls. 

[GaryPinC]

6 hours ago, PromoTheRobot said:

 

Yes. 15 wins and a 5th straight AFC East title, in a year you were picked to finish 3rd, clearly says "it ain't working."

Yes!  After 7 seasons of Josh Allen let's keep on the same exact path doing the same exact things and keep telling our players and fans to trust it.

 

We'll keep glorifying our regular season successes instead of addressing the hard questions to push for postseason success.

Edited January 28 by GaryPinC

[Real McClappy]

15 minutes ago, GaryPinC said:

Yes!  After 7 seasons of Josh Allen let's keep on the same exact path doing the same exact things and keep telling our players and fans to trust it.

 

We'll keep glorifying our regular season successes instead of addressing the hard questions to push for postseason success.

"Process" has got us deep into the playoffs. I'm willing to give McD one more year as this was supposed to be a rebuild.  I have not read all these pages but who other than BB would get us over the edge coaching wise that is available?

[GaryPinC]

5 hours ago, klos63 said:

At the beginning of the season,  a lot of smart people thought we may take a step back after all the significant changes on the roster.

I felt that way too.

I think we should have one,  probably would have is not for a number of close calls that didn't go our way. 

But despite all of that,  we had the ball with 3 minutes to go,  3 timeouts left,  on the road against 2 time defending champs,  where a touchdown would get us to the super bowl. A pretty good season.

Maybe McDermott did an amazing job with what he had. 

Started the season without Milano, 2 safeties that probably weren't expected to start,,Edwards and Bishop were probably the plan.  No WR1 , 2 new coordinators.

Just a different perspective on the discussion. 

Yep, he did a great job at what he does best, pulling a team together and executing his system.  That's not what I'm talking about, here's what I'm talking about:

https://nypost.com/2025/01/27/sports/the-sean-mcdermott-decisions-that-burned-bills-in-crushing-afc-championship-game-setback/

 

Coach McD addressing the failed tush pushes:

 

“It’s been our best play all year at one or inside of one yard. We won some of those, but … they were doing a good job,” McDermott said. “I thought overall, maybe we could have disguised it, maybe not, but at the end of the day we have confidence in Josh and our offensive line to get those and they’ve been getting them all year.”

 

Until he changes this "rely only on the system" mindset in the playoffs,  we will continue to fail in the biggest moments.  Even worse, how are you going to disguise the push?  He simply needs to open his mind and think differently in the playoffs. 

 

I'm not saying we abandon the sneaks/push.  

 

I'm saying McD needs to realize playoffs mean top coaches and top talent.  That means you better have backup plans, different looks, different wrinkles to things we've put consistently on tape all year.  Self scout, especially in regards to the strengths of our opponent, ie.  what are they likely to stop us from doing?

 

Same thing on defense with Mahomes sweep right.  They did it all year.  No specific plan for that, trusted the system and it failed.  Again.

 

Open your mind McDermott.   Realize when and where your system needs adjustments or changes and be prepared.  Even if only for one game.  The big games.

[GaryPinC]

42 minutes ago, Real McClappy said:

"Process" has got us deep into the playoffs. I'm willing to give McD one more year as this was supposed to be a rebuild.  I have not read all these pages but who other than BB would get us over the edge coaching wise that is available?

Quite frankly who to choose would be up to Beane and/or an outside consultant if needed.  You want a coach who will tweak the philosophy without changing the culture.  But we know what we would need in a new coach.  That's a huge advantage in a search and certainly those types of coaches would be attracted to this job.

 

But yes I agree another year for McD.

[loveorhatembillsfan4life]

I’m ok with Mcd this year.  I had  been on the fence about him but I think by all accounts he has grown since that hit piece. Tom Coughlin is a guy I remember who really changed as a coach and eventually got a Super Bowl. I also think listening to Josh yesterday underlines he has changed. 

 

I’m not waking up this morning looking back saying Mcd cost us this game or season. Players got to make plays. 
 

 

I am actually more focused on Beane. I don’t think he has been aggressive enough since the Josh Allen trade. Should have moved up for Brian Thomas last year but instead focused on accumulating draft picks. We are finding solid players but not many game changers.

 

Like, you could give up some capital and put a stud Wr with Josh for the next 4-5 years with Allen. Kc knew who they wanted and went up to us to get him.. yet we were ok trading back and and back to grab Coleman (I like) but clearly showing separation issues right now 

 

I really hope Beane nails it this offseason. 

 

Just my opinion, I know many won’t agree lol. 

[Nihilarian]

It's not the coaches who need to be changed. The Bills DC's first season calling defensive plays was his first full season, and the Buffalo OC's was his first full season calling plays, too.

 

To me, it's amazing how far this team went this season with a bunch of JAGS at WR and no clear #1 like Justin Jefferson, or Ja'Marr Chase. plus, there are a bunch of maybes on defense. I think this coaching staff is only the second best to the Chiefs who have THREE former head coaches running that team. The 2024 Buffalo Bills beat the two best teams in the NFL this year in Detroit AT Detroit and KC in Buffalo. THe Chiefs ONLY loss all year!

 

As I mentioned the Buffalo GM's hands were tied with Diggs being a 30-million dollar cap hit to get rid of that malcontent ball hog...who went invisible each year in the playoffs. Von Miller was a great pickup before his injury and a liability after. What this team needs are better players. GM Brandon Beane did a masterful job with what he had to work with. 

 

Some Bills fans need to stop whining about changes that are never gonna happen and focus on what will happen with the draft and free agency.😁

Edited January 28 by Nihilarian

[Cheektowaga Chad]

I've wanted to move on from McDermott since the Houston texan playoff game collapse 

 

This is the first year I don't want to

 

A lot of previous year issues I've had with McDermott disappeared, the team played a complimentary football style where the defense and special teams complimented the offense for the first time in his tenure

 

This was a reset year, a lot of the issues we saw last night were due to inexperienced coordinators and a general lack of actual talent on the team - 1 second team all pro and what 2 pro bowlers

 

[LarryMadman]

9 hours ago, PromoTheRobot said:

 

Yes. 15 wins and a 5th straight AFC East title, in a year you were picked to finish 3rd, clearly says "it ain't working."

Yay, got another playoff participation trophy, yay!

[klos63]

2 hours ago, GaryPinC said:

Yep, he did a great job at what he does best, pulling a team together and executing his system.  That's not what I'm talking about, here's what I'm talking about:

https://nypost.com/2025/01/27/sports/the-sean-mcdermott-decisions-that-burned-bills-in-crushing-afc-championship-game-setback/

 

Coach McD addressing the failed tush pushes:

 

“It’s been our best play all year at one or inside of one yard. We won some of those, but … they were doing a good job,” McDermott said. “I thought overall, maybe we could have disguised it, maybe not, but at the end of the day we have confidence in Josh and our offensive line to get those and they’ve been getting them all year.”

 

Until he changes this "rely only on the system" mindset in the playoffs,  we will continue to fail in the biggest moments.  Even worse, how are you going to disguise the push?  He simply needs to open his mind and think differently in the playoffs. 

 

I'm not saying we abandon the sneaks/push.  

 

I'm saying McD needs to realize playoffs mean top coaches and top talent.  That means you better have backup plans, different looks, different wrinkles to things we've put consistently on tape all year.  Self scout, especially in regards to the strengths of our opponent, ie.  what are they likely to stop us from doing?

 

Same thing on defense with Mahomes sweep right.  They did it all year.  No specific plan for that, trusted the system and it failed.  Again.

 

Open your mind McDermott.   Realize when and where your system needs adjustments or changes and be prepared.  Even if only for one game.  The big games.

Don't his coordinators call the plays,  come up with the game plan?

I know the buck stops with him,  but Brady had a crap game. Wasn't prepared for the blitz, wouldn't change the qb sneaks, took Cook out in critical situations...

[JakeFrommStateFarm]

15 minutes ago, klos63 said:

Don't his coordinators call the plays,  come up with the game plan?

I know the buck stops with him,  but Brady had a crap game. Wasn't prepared for the blitz, wouldn't change the qb sneaks, took Cook out in critical situations...

Strange on the last drive of the game, 1st and 10, Cook is not in.

 

Brady goes with Ty Johnson who is stuffed on 1st down.

 

Then he brings Cook in on second down.

 

What sense did that make ?