Is it time to move on from McDermott?

[MrEpsYtown]

7 minutes ago, SirAndrew said:

Football teams are typically an image of their coach. People act like I’m crazy when I say this, but McDermott looks nervous in the playoffs on the sideline. He’s not a calming influence, and I think it rubs off on players. We make fun of Mike McDaniels’ halftime interviews, but McD looked and sounded like a nervous mess during the halftime interview. As far as fear of the drought era, these fans are acting like someone in a bum marriage. You don’t stay in it because “you can’t do better”. 

 

Nail on the head. And to me, at some point, the players lose faith in their coach. And if they aren't there yet, it's a miracle. 

[LabattBlue]

McD is going nowhere.   Don’t even waste a breath thinking about it.  
 

Pegula loves his man of faith and character…we are stuck with him.  

[The Frankish Reich]

25 minutes ago, SirAndrew said:

Football teams are typically an image of their coach. People act like I’m crazy when I say this, but McDermott looks nervous in the playoffs on the sideline. He’s not a calming influence, and I think it rubs off on players. We make fun of Mike McDaniels’ halftime interviews, but McD looked and sounded like a nervous mess during the halftime interview. As far as fear of the drought era, these fans are acting like someone in a bum marriage. You don’t stay in it because “you can’t do better”. 

True, but ... Dan Campbell's swagger didn't help much in the playoffs either.

I agree with you about McD looking nervous, but I think we need to be honest about our own team: the Chiefs are better. Better at key positions, with more playmakers, particularly on defense. We all got fooled by how they kind of got to 15-1 with smoke and mirrors and blocked field goals and other flubs by their opponents. But in the end, they were the best, most complete team in the AFC. We're really good, but they outplayed us. We really didn't deserve to have the chance to tie or win with 3 minutes left on the clock. And I'm not sure any Dan Campbell or Harbaugh changes that.

[GASabresIUFan]

1 hour ago, MrEpsYtown said:

To me, who replaces him isn't the issue. The issue is that he sucks and he will never win a Super Bowl. So turn the page and find someone else and see what happens.

This is what everyone in Philly said about Andy Reid.  

[nosejob]

40 minutes ago, Fan in Chicago said:

I proposed in another thread that Brady could be elevated to HC . We get an in-house person who is offensive minded, knows Allen and the rest of the organization. He was considered HC material so why not do it ourselves? 

....And then hire Aranumo (sp?) or Schwartz on defense?

[Amaru523]

41 minutes ago, DaVinci said:

 

2021-seat gets warm

2022-seat gets warm

2023-seat gets warm

2024-seat getswarm

2025-seat gets warm.

 

That's one F@#$% hot seat

 

I'm just being realistic, do you honestly believe they'll fire McD? Honestly?

[Golden*Wheels]

Maybe Spagnuolo wants another shot at HCing....

[Brianmoorman4jesus]

9 minutes ago, Golden*Wheels said:

Maybe Spagnuolo wants another shot at HCing....

Wouldn’t even think twice. I’d do it in a heartbeat. Makes us better and makes KC worse. Never going to happen but I’d do it the day after the Super Bowl if he wanted 

[DaVinci]

16 minutes ago, Amaru523 said:

I'm just being realistic, do you honestly believe they'll fire McD? Honestly?

just acting out my frustrations no offense 

[Amaru523]

1 minute ago, DaVinci said:

just acting out my frustrations no offense 

None taken, I don't even agree with what I typed, I just don't see our owner allowing McD to be fired, maybe ever. 

[Gregg]

32 minutes ago, Amaru523 said:

None taken, I don't even agree with what I typed, I just don't see our owner allowing McD to be fired, maybe ever. 

 

I wouldn't say "ever" but he is certainly safe for a while given they just went to the AFCCG in what was supposed to be a year where many thought it would be a mini rebuild/retool. I will say the pressure is on Beane this offseason to improve this roster in FA/draft. We have a good team around #17 but not a great one. 

Edited Monday at 07:22 PM by Gregg

[BernieBill]

I can't wait until Josh's career is over, the Bills have zero Super Bowl appearances, and people will still be afraid to fire a head coach who only wins because he has a generational talent at Quarterback.  

January 24, 2021 - Chiefs 38 Bills 24
January 23, 2022 - Chiefs 42 Bills 36 (OT)
January 21, 2024 - Chiefs 27 Bills 24
January 26, 2025 - Chiefs 32 Bills 29

If you want to keep adding to that list and watch the Bills lose in the AFC playoffs every single season then bring him back.  No other first-time head coach in history has been granted lifetime tenure without so much as appearing in a Super Bowl, let alone winning one.  Why do the Bills get as far as they do?  Josh Allen.  Why can't they get to a Super Bowl?  Sean McDermott.  So let's run it back, again.

[TheFunPolice]

The "who are you going to replace him with?" argument is silly. I suppose you could get a total dumpster fire of a guy at HC, but EVERY top candidate would want to come here and coach Allen. 

 

Jim "1000 yard stare" Caldwell should have had a perfect 16-0 season as HC but chickened out mid-game. 

 

Because he had Peyton Manning. Not because he was a great HC, and history has borne that out. He was fine, but (insert competent coach name here) could have done the same thing. 

 

 

[SirAndrew]

2 hours ago, The Frankish Reich said:

True, but ... Dan Campbell's swagger didn't help much in the playoffs either.

I agree with you about McD looking nervous, but I think we need to be honest about our own team: the Chiefs are better. Better at key positions, with more playmakers, particularly on defense. We all got fooled by how they kind of got to 15-1 with smoke and mirrors and blocked field goals and other flubs by their opponents. But in the end, they were the best, most complete team in the AFC. We're really good, but they outplayed us. We really didn't deserve to have the chance to tie or win with 3 minutes left on the clock. And I'm not sure any Dan Campbell or Harbaugh changes that.

I don’t disagree, but the best roster on paper doesn’t always win. There’s no reason KC definitely should beat us. They have better defensive talent, but they didn’t exactly shut us down either. These playoff loses to KC are being decided by just a few points. Dan Campbell and the Lions were completely overmatched, but we keep coming close. I blame the close loses on several key coaching decisions that we always seem to botch in the playoffs. 

[oldmanfan]

1 minute ago, SirAndrew said:

I don’t disagree, but the best roster on paper doesn’t always win. There’s no reason KC definitely should beat us. They have better defensive talent, but they didn’t exactly shut us down either. These playoff loses to KC are being decided by just a few points. Dan Campbell and the Lions were completely overmatched, but we keep coming close. I blame the close loses on several key coaching decisions that we always seem to botch in the playoffs. 

The Chiefs win because in these close games guys always do their jobs and they do not make mistakes.  That may or may not be coaching -I think it’s a big part of it - but that’s what wins these close games.

[SirAndrew]

Just now, oldmanfan said:

The Chiefs win because in these close games guys always do their jobs and they do not make mistakes.  That may or may not be coaching -I think it’s a big part of it - but that’s what wins these close games.

I agree, but I also can’t see the Chiefs running countless failed tush pushes, or horribly designed short yardage attempts. That’s on coaching. They also wouldn’t take James Cook out of the game on the final series. 

[Gregg]

9 minutes ago, SirAndrew said:

I agree, but I also can’t see the Chiefs running countless failed tush pushes, or horribly designed short yardage attempts. That’s on coaching. They also wouldn’t take James Cook out of the game on the final series. 

 

I didn't understand why the Bills didn't use Cook more. He was having a great game. You can bet the Eagles took notice of what Cook did. Barkley is going to get the ball a lot.

[BernieBill]

 

[DrDawkinstein]

2 hours ago, GASabresIUFan said:

This is what everyone in Philly said about Andy Reid.  

 

And Andy Reid never won a Super Bowl in Philly. But the Eagles have won one and been to 2 since he left (now 3).

 

Goes to show, sometimes teams need to move on from good coaches in order to take the next step.

 

Edited Monday at 08:54 PM by DrDawkinstein

[Sojourner]

5 minutes ago, BernieBill said:

 

cant disagree with most of what’s being said but the fact at the start of the presented argument where Colin puts the failure to convert short yardages on McD is weird. McD made the right decisions to go for it each and every time. 
 

Play calling put them in a bad position to be in where they had to go for that several times. Play calling and execution was the reason we didn’t convert. Can’t put that on McD. 
 

What I do put on McD is why he didn’t assert to Brady to stop going to it. 

Like dude said… Pivot away from it when it’s not working. 
 

Our obsession was our demise.