Is it time to move on from McDermott?

[<bills4life>]

1 minute ago, Johnnieo64 said:

OMG! I was too depressed to post after the game but then I read your post. Totally agree!!! As a loyal Bills fan for over 50 years I TOTALLY agree. We will be good in the future but will never win big and will most likely regress. This was a watershed game for me. We are not ever coming back after this. Good seasons to come after this but will never win a championship unless changes are made. McDermotts  D while good during the season will NEVER win big in the playoffs. As Mike Ness says, we will always be a day late and a dollar short. And as Metallica says, Sad but True!!!☹️👎😡. 

You my friend hit the nail on the head.  Unlike you I am not depressed. Totally expecting to lose in this fashion. And have accepted this is how it is going to be for the rest of Allen’s career.  So I will marvel in his greatness, while at the same time harboring zero expectations with McDermott at the helm. 

[Cheektowaga Chad]

This isn't the year to move on from McDermott 

 

The bills were a young/ inexperienced team. Really weren't expected to be as good as they were. This was never supposed to be the Superbowl season (that's the next two seasons) 

 

Might have been his best coaching season

 

Get some experience and more talent at the positions of need - safety, corner, pass rusher , and pass catcher

[<bills4life>]

1 minute ago, Cheektowaga Chad said:

This isn't the year to move on from McDermott 

 

The bills were a young/ inexperienced team. Really weren't expected to be as good as they were. This was never supposed to be the Superbowl season (that's the next two seasons) 

 

Might have been his best coaching season

 

Get some experience and more talent at the positions of need - safety, corner, pass rusher , and pass catcher

It should have happened after 13 seconds. 

[Cheektowaga Chad]

Just now, &lt;bills4life&gt; said:

It should have happened after 13 seconds. 

I agree with that 

[colin]

Allen will be in his 10th year before you known it.  He's the only QB to have 40+ total TDS in 4 consecutive seasons ever, and he's done for 5.

 

This team has trash for offensive weapons, and a moron oc who can't change up and gets away from whatever is working.  Our special teams blew a huge return again and our d was awful, allowed mahomes his best game on EPA all year.

 

The time to move on from MCD was 2021.  We are on our 3rd oc and DC since then, we've turned over nearly the whole roster, and so has KC (they turned it over more than us).  Their front office is the same, we have the same GM and HC.  MCD picked bean, not the other way around, and he has massive influence on who gets drafted and signed.  We have like 55mm this season into von and diggs, the two big non Allen contracts signed since 2021.

 

The only thing this team has in common in a positive sense since then is Allen.  He's the goat of all time as far as I am concerned (not perfect, obv) and these losers in the FO are pretenders.

 

I'd clean house and never look back

[DrMaxPower]

This isn't the game to bring out the pitchforks. His game management was fine. The only thing you might be able to question is the early FG. I thought it was the right choice. They had done nothing to give any confidence in a conversion and the game could have quickly run away on them.

 

They didn't have the horses and the ones they had, let them down.

 

That said, as someone who's a McD defender, the seat is starting to warm. This is the 1st time I'm questioning if he's here when they open the new stadium.

[nedboy7]

I agree with both sides of the story.  I’m clueless as to what should happen. 

[TheBrownBear]

10 minutes ago, &lt;bills4life&gt; said:

You my friend hit the nail on the head.  Unlike you I am not depressed. Totally expecting to lose in this fashion. And have accepted this is how it is going to be for the rest of Allen’s career.  So I will marvel in his greatness, while at the same time harboring zero expectations with McDermott at the helm. 

Probably the healthiest approach in all honesty.  I thought I was there, but apparently I got sucked in yet again.  😭

[Dr.Mantis_Toboggan]

Yes, hire Bill Belichick. He’s the closest thing to football Phil Jackson…

[<bills4life>]

4 minutes ago, colin said:

Allen will be in his 10th year before you known it.  He's the only QB to have 40+ total TDS in 4 consecutive seasons ever, and he's done for 5.

 

This team has trash for offensive weapons, and a moron oc who can't change up and gets away from whatever is working.  Our special teams blew a huge return again and our d was awful, allowed mahomes his best game on EPA all year.

 

The time to move on from MCD was 2021.  We are on our 3rd oc and DC since then, we've turned over nearly the whole roster, and so has KC (they turned it over more than us).  Their front office is the same, we have the same GM and HC.  MCD picked bean, not the other way around, and he has massive influence on who gets drafted and signed.  We have like 55mm this season into von and diggs, the two big non Allen contracts signed since 2021.

 

The only thing this team has in common in a positive sense since then is Allen.  He's the goat of all time as far as I am concerned (not perfect, obv) and these losers in the FO are pretenders.

 

I'd clean house and never look back

Spoken by someone with guts.  Same here.  Sick of the excuses. 

1 minute ago, Dr.Mantis_Toboggan said:

Yes, hire Bill Belichick. He’s the closest thing to football Phil Jackson…

In a millisecond 

[KentuckyBillsFan]

13 minutes ago, Cheektowaga Chad said:

This isn't the year to move on from McDermott 

 

The bills were a young/ inexperienced team. Really weren't expected to be as good as they were. This was never supposed to be the Superbowl season (that's the next two seasons) 

 

Might have been his best coaching season

 

Get some experience and more talent at the positions of need - safety, corner, pass rusher , and pass catcher

Cool. I'll see you back here next year when the same ***** happens.

[DCOrange]

I think there comes a time where you have to consider making a move and just hoping something different clicks a little better. Having said that, I think this was probably the best coaching year of McDermott's career and I think he's somewhere around the 4th-10th best coach in the league right now. Not much room for an upgrade and a ton of space for a downgrade. But you don't necessarily need an upgrade.

 

Anyways, I personally would not move on from him this offseason and I don't think Buffalo will, but I get it if fans want to.

[Cheektowaga Chad]

2 minutes ago, KentuckyBillsFan said:

Cool. I'll see you back here next year when the same ***** happens.

Who can you hire tomorrow that would be an improvement?

 

Who tomorrow can guarantee a chance at the super bowl next season?

 

People want to change a coach because McDermott is wasting Allen's career, but if you fire him and hire a brand new coach you likely set the franchise up to rebuild for two years to get that coaches players in

 

The time to move on would have been last season when the bills entered this "rebuild", not now

 

The bills NEED talent, they lack talent at nearly every position besides QB rb and offensive line 

[mannc]

48 minutes ago, SirAndrew said:

We’ll never know, but I guarantee instead of the failed tush push, we run play action on fourth and one, we probably take a 29-21 lead. 

Or 3rd and 1, FFS

[DCOrange]

1 hour ago, H2o said:

He's like Tony Dungy. Good guy, but could never break through with Tampa. They let him go. Same should be considered here, but we don't have a young Jon Gruden in the wings. 

To be fair, Dungy ultimately did win a Super Bowl and is a literal Hall of Fame coach (and probably better historically than Gruden). And Tampa didn't have a young Gruden in the wings either; they traded multiple 1st and multiple 2nd round picks to get him.

[BobbyC81]

I have long been on the side of “you don’t dump a coach that wins division titles” but I am finally leaning the other way.

 

There is precedent of course.   Chuck Knox won division titles for the Rams but failed in the playoffs and was dumped.  Marty Schottenheimer had regular season success  at his stints in Cleveland, San Diego and puke KC, but failed in the playoffs.

 

Reid also had regular season success in Philly but couldn’t get the Eagles over the hump so he was let go.

 

Pegula needs to ask himself if he’s satisfied with just winning division titles or does he want to get to the Super Bowl.  Hopefully it’s the latter and he doubts Sean can get them there.  I no longer believe McDermott can do it.

[bills11]

Its basically parallels the colts vs patriots era..we are Tony Dungys colts part two...an elite passer combined with a soft zone coverage defence built to bend not break...meanwhile the chiefs are the Patriots an Elite qb built with an aggressive defence that attacks...reid is the offensive vefsion of Belichick and sean is basically dungy great motivator and leader of men but doesnt peform

[The Firebaugh Kid]

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[Norcalbillsfan]

Your not going to find a coach on the street that can out coach Andy Reid, he's the greatest big game offensive mind that's ever lived. 

 

Which leads me to where the I think the heat should be turned up. Beane. 

Hes had some excellent later picks, Benford, Bernard, brown, Johnson ect. And the chiefs have had some whifs like CEH.

 

But other than cook, how much did Rousseau, Elam, boogie, Coleman, epenesa, help us tonight?

 

Versus how much did creed, worthy, karlaftis, bolton, mcduffie help the chiefs tonight? 

 

In my opinion the bills are being out drafted and out coached. Out coaching Andy Reid is pretty much impossible, so what can you do to improve?

[RH1]

I was one that was hoping Joe Brady landed a HC job elsewhere... This game tonight wasn't on McD.