Coaching thoughts going forward

[White Linen]

1 minute ago, Nephilim17 said:

I think McDermott is a good but not great coach. He's a defensive specialist but our defense cannot stop our greatest adversary in the playoffs. 

Is drafting and FA partly to blame — meaning we don't have enough talent? Sure, but I don't buy for a second that Beane drafts players and signs FAs without Sean's input and direction. 
 

We probably have seen more of Josh's prime years than we will see going forward. I don't know who the replacement should be but I have little faith that McDermott can beat Reid in the playoffs.

 

Perfectly said and almost exactly how I feel.

[Dr.Mantis_Toboggan]

2 minutes ago, Nephilim17 said:

I think McDermott is a good but not great coach. He's a defensive specialist but our defense cannot stop our greatest adversary in the playoffs. 

Is drafting and FA partly to blame — meaning we don't have enough talent? Sure, but I don't buy for a second that Beane drafts players and signs FAs without Sean's input and direction. 
 

We probably have seen more of Josh's prime years than we will see going forward. I don't know who the replacement should be but I have little faith that McDermott can beat Reid in the playoffs.

Time to bring in the Hoodie to get to the top of the mountain…

[GoBills808]

 

[colin]

1 minute ago, Matt_In_NH said:

McCarthy blows.  That would be a downgrade. 

 

I'll take him over MCD in a hot second.

 

I'm sure he could find a babbich level talent to produce historically bad ds in the playoffs (or even just plain bad, which would be an upgrade over our current loser) and not be Brady level dumb (or pass every down and let Barkley go smart like daboll, or bombs away Dorsey, remember those winners?) and have some kind of answer vs the blitz.

 

McCarthy is a kinda dumb corch, but he got that back up guy to a winning record this season, in the division with the two NFC finalists.  What evidence is there that he's not better than MCD?  He lost better in more confence chips than mcd

[PBF81]

7 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

 

I have not dismissed coaching as a reason we lost. I've been clear on that. 

 

On offense we still lack talent. The guard who wiffed on the critical block? 2nd round pick. The guy who had the critical drop? 1st round pick. The guy who couldn't get open when we needed him to on that drive? 33rd overall pick and oh... to get him we gifted the Chiefs their leading receiver on the day.

 

If people want to pretend those personnel decisions are not a critical fact then go ahead. But they absolutely are. And they are holding us back at the end. When you have an elite Quarterback if you get to that point in an AFCCG - 3 minutes left, with the ball, a touchdown wins it - you are supposed to win. The reason we are not is because in those situations there is not enough around Josh. Scheme goes out of the window at that point. It's about players not plays. And we don't have the horses to get it done.

 

Be more specific.  You're hedging here.  

 

Four seasons in, our defenses collapse in the playoffs.  Even last week v. the Ravens, if we don't get 3, THREE, TOs, we lose.  Not getting any one of those TOs would have cost us the game.  

 

We've had all the horses we've needed in some of those season.  So what's the common thread over the past four years?  

 

And if it's "not having the horses," then how do you explain our 4-0 RS record but 0-4 Postseason record?  What, Reid and the Chiefs didn't care about those RS games?  

 

 

Edited Monday at 04:29 AM by PBF81

[Nephilim17]

Just now, Dr.Mantis_Toboggan said:

Time to bring in the Hoodie to get to the top of the mountain…

Never gonna happen, especially as he just signed on with a college team but I wouldn't be against it if he got a good O coordinator.

We've seen all there is to see with MdD vs Reid in the playoffs.

[Dr.Mantis_Toboggan]

Just now, Nephilim17 said:

Never gonna happen, especially as he just signed on with a college team but I wouldn't be against it if he got a good O coordinator.

We've seen all there is to see with MdD vs Reid in the playoffs.

He has a very affordable buyout he kept in for a reason…

Edited Monday at 04:29 AM by Dr.Mantis_Toboggan

[White Linen]

4 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

 

No it's not. It is because of the evidence on the field tonight. His guys made the critical mistakes. 

 

1st round corner who can't play

1st round pass catcher who can't catch

2nd round blocker who whiffed on the key block

33rd overall receiver invisible while the guy we gave them goes off.

 

That isn't bias. Those are objective facts.

 

You don't think the players are the head coaches too?  They're only assigned to the GM?

 

Now you're just purposely trying to create argument.

[Matt_In_NH]

2 minutes ago, colin said:

 

I'll take him over MCD in a hot second.

 

I'm sure he could find a babbich level talent to produce historically bad ds in the playoffs (or even just plain bad, which would be an upgrade over our current loser) and not be Brady level dumb (or pass every down and let Barkley go smart like daboll, or bombs away Dorsey, remember those winners?) and have some kind of answer vs the blitz.

 

McCarthy is a kinda dumb corch, but he got that back up guy to a winning record this season, in the division with the two NFC finalists.  What evidence is there that he's not better than MCD?  He lost better in more confence chips than mcd

Good thing this is not happening. 

3 minutes ago, GoBills808 said:

 

Here we go with the magical never happens except to the bills stats. 

Edited Monday at 04:31 AM by Matt_In_NH

[TFBillsfan]

McDermott is now 0-4 vs KC in the playoffs. His mentor has absolutely owned him. He’s yet to win a playoff game on the road and his defense continues to come up short in the playoffs.  At some point, it’s a combo of philosophy, scheme, talent and execution. 

 

@Jacksonville (winnable)

@Houston (2nd half collapse)

@KC (blown out in AFCC)

@KC (13 secs)

@KC AFCC

 

Candidly, he ought to be 4-1 on the road. McDermott is a solid coach but the lack of difference makers on D and his inability to adjust in big moments are his Achilles heel. 
 

Big picture, the Bills are five time AFCE champions. They’ll regroup, adjust and make another run at it next year!
 

 

 

[White Linen]

2 minutes ago, GoBills808 said:

 

 

This rests my case.

[Jerboski]

3 minutes ago, GoBills808 said:

 

That’s a shot at Sean and the coaching staff 

 

just not good enough 

[GunnerBill]

1 minute ago, White Linen said:

 

You don't think the players are the head coaches too?  They're only assigned to the GM?

 

Now you're just purposely trying to create argument.

 

Brandon Beane is responsible and accountable for who he drafts.

[Straight Hucklebuck]

Take all next year and start conducting interviews and get the research done.

 

Fire Beane and McDermott.

 

They've had half of Josh’s career to get it done and they’ve failed. 

[GunnerBill]

3 minutes ago, PBF81 said:

 

Be more specific.  You're hedging here.  

 

Four seasons in, our defenses collapse in the playoffs.  Even last week v. the Ravens, if we don't get 3, THREE, TOs, we lose.  Not getting any one of those TOs would have cost us the game.  

 

We've had all the horses we've needed in some of those season.  So what's the common thread over the past four years?  

 

And if it's "not having the horses," then how do you explain our 4-0 RS record but 0-4 Postseason record?  What, Reid and the Chiefs didn't care about those RS games?  

 

 

 

I'm not hedging anything. And it is 4.30am. I am going to bed. 

[appoo]

for all the whining about the chiefs stuffing the Allen tush push the Bills went what 4 for 4 in the Red Zone? The only time it actually caused harm was when the refs ***** things over. 

 

Why do you think those flat throws were open for Mahomes? Maybe because the Bills were putting more resources into the middle where Kelce and others were? The Bills don't have defenders who can do side line to sideline. They don't have DLineman on the level of Chris Jones. After Benford went down they didn't have a single even average NFL DB on their roster other than Taron Johnson, who's busy being a nickel. 

 

The reason Mahomes was having so much succces throwing short passes and running was because Milano is a shell of himself, because Rossseau had a horrific game, and because Taron Johnson had to play coverage elsewhere, and because Elam couldn't cover 1v1

[Heavy Kevi]

1 hour ago, Special K said:

The problem is Andy Reid....name a Defense that consistently shuts him down.

 

Fair point.

 

Counterpoint: it's proven McD can't do it, so maybe give somebody else a shot?

[OldNMBillsFan]

1 hour ago, Don Otreply said:

I have supported Sean for years now, but sadly his chosen players and scheme let us down yet again, the problem is, is there a better HC available? The answer is , maybe, maybe not, it’s like being in QB purgatory, but with a HC, what can be done to improve this Defense so we can get over this barrier…, 

 

GO BILLS!!!
 

 

JA lost this game. He was not at his best, anyone who says different did not watch the game or are delusional. The offense had the ball ,down by 3 ...3:33 left with 3-time outs and he couldn't get it done. Ohhh, and cook only average 6.5 yards a carry, Thats 19,5 yards per 3 carries. Josh needs to be better.

[MPT]

My only problem with McDermott is that he hasn't figured out how to work the officials.

 

Belichick had the NFL in his pocket, now Reid has the NFL in his pocket. There are politics involved that McDermott is oblivious to. He thinks he's playing a fair game.

 

Although, it might be well above his pay grade for such a thing.

[Governor]

5 minutes ago, White Linen said:

 

They could be Whiffs and it could be the HC rarely turns a draft pick into an excellent player.

Both were oddball picks from an arrogant GM that always thinks he the smartest guy in the room.

 

Beane said he liked Coleman’s size. The dude plays incredibly small on the field. How could we not see that during the evaluation process?