Coaching thoughts going forward

[Billsfanatic8989]

32 minutes ago, Special K said:

The problem is Andy Reid....name a Defense that consistently shuts him down.

We may very well see that happen in two weeks.

 

Eagles are loaded on D

[CoudyBills]

25 minutes ago, Niagara Dude said:

I think McDermott gets out-coached more often then not in these playoff games .  It seems like the other team comes up with something that we never adjust to.  Tonight it was the Chiefs letting Mahomes run more and Chiefs defence preparing well for our tush-push

Why didn't they spy him all night?

[White Linen]

26 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

Is there a better GM available? One that doesnt blow his first pick three years running? If so can we hire him?

 

Here you go again blaming everyone else but your precious McDermott.  

 

You analyze the draft for this board, so you unfairly blame Beane and Allen.  

 

Should we hire the Chiefs GM and have their perfect roster?

[GunnerBill]

4 minutes ago, PBF81 said:

 

You are aware that we just allowed Reid's offense to post a season high performance, right?  

 

BTW, that includes what the 32nd defensively ranked Carolina Panthers allowed.  

 

 

 

The defense wasn't good. It hasn't been good all year this year. That said they did hold the Chiefs to 3 despite a facemask penalty on that final drive and for the second year in a row the offense had to ball at the end with a chance to win the game against the Chiefs and couldn't get it done. Some of that is execution but it is largely a factor of not having a true downfield wide receiver who can threaten vertically. Last year we are asking Shakir to do that job this year it was Kincaid. We need an outside receiver who can win vertically badly. We did at the end of last season and we did not fix it.

1 minute ago, White Linen said:

 

Here you go again blaming everyone else but your precious McDermott.  

 

You analyze the draft for this board, so you unfairly blame Beane and Allen.  

 

Should we hire the Chiefs GM and have their perfect roster?

 

When have I blamed Josh Allen? 

 

I do think Brandon Beane deserves more blame than coaching. 100%. He has blown 3 first picks in a row and all those decisons were major factors in the defeat tonight.

[KeLLy1278]

49 minutes ago, Don Otreply said:

I have supported Sean for years now, but sadly his chosen players and scheme let us down yet again, the problem is, is there a better HC available? The answer is , maybe, maybe not, it’s like being in QB purgatory, but with a HC, what can be done to improve this Defense so we can get over this barrier…, 

 

GO BILLS!!!
 

 

This team will not win a SB with McD as head coach. Throw Brady in there too. Today was agonizing to watch. 

[Man with No Name]

tonight is the least bitter ive been about mcdermott in a loss in a long time. defense did a decent job in the 2nd half. offense moved the ball a bit. i can live with the 2 pt conversion calls, even if i disagree. brady was underwhelming, but I don't think anybody wants to see him go. how much of the trenches getting their butts handed to them is on the coaching? idk. 

things just went KCs way. they always do. 

 

 

[White Linen]

29 minutes ago, FireChans said:

I think Beane has been skating far too long personally. This game was like his personal referendum.

 

Send them both packing to turn Carolina back into a Wild card team. That’s what they are really good at.

 

So Daboll got a head coaching gig, Brady got interviewed, Dorsey immediately got another OC job because Beane sucks and McD is great.  

 

Why haven't any of McD's defensive guys get head coaching jobs?  Oh yeah because Beane sucks, haha.

[Niagara Dude]

4 minutes ago, CoudyBills said:

Why didn't they spy him all night?

It just seems like these playoff games Reid and his defensive coordinator come up with something different and McDermott stays the same.

[Man with No Name]

4 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

I do think Brandon Beane deserves more blame than coaching. 100%. He has blown 3 first picks in a row and all those decisons were major factors in the defeat tonight.

i can maybe get on board with this. 

[White Linen]

4 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

 

The defense wasn't good. It hasn't been good all year this year. That said they did hold the Chiefs to 3 despite a facemask penalty on that final drive and for the second year in a row the offense had to ball at the end with a chance to win the game against the Chiefs and couldn't get it done. Some of that is execution but it is largely a factor of not having a true downfield wide receiver who can threaten vertically. Last year we are asking Shakir to do that job this year it was Kincaid. We need an outside receiver who can win vertically badly. We did at the end of last season and we did not fix it.

 

When have I blamed Josh Allen? 

 

I do think Brandon Beane deserves more blame than coaching. 100%. He has blown 3 first picks in a row and all those decisons were major factors in the defeat tonight.

 

Yeah if we only had the Chiefs roster, you're correct.

[PBF81]

2 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

The defense wasn't good. It hasn't been good all year this year. 

 

So they were worse than Carolina's 32nd ranked D then?  Because that's the way they played.  

 

Also worse than Clevelands 29th ranked D, SF's 27th ranked D, Cincy's 26th ranked D, the Raiders' 25th ranked D, Atlanta's 23rd ranked D?  

 

 

[Toyo321]

At this point we need Chucky!!!

 

[GunnerBill]

Just now, PBF81 said:

 

So they were worse than Carolina's 32nd ranked D then?  Because that's the way they played.  

 

Also worse than Clevelands 29th ranked D, SF's 27th ranked D, Cincy's 26th ranked D, the Raiders' 25th ranked D, Atlanta's 23rd ranked D?  

 

 

They were dreadful first half yes. The played a better 2nd half. The gameplan was wrong first half. Way too much man coverage. We might have the horses to do that against Bateman and the tight ends of Baltimore but we don't to go against the speed of Hollywood, Worthy and Pacheco - especially once Benford went out but tbh I think even before.

 

Second half we went back to our defense, played much more zone and were better. 

 

But I am not arguing the D was good. It was bad. Especially first half. I didn't expect it to be good. Defenses that finish 3rd or 4th worst on 3rd down in the NFL are not good defenses. 

 

What I am saying is even with the D being basically a bit worse than you might have expected they still gave the Bills a chance to win the game at the end which has happened two years in a row. And neither time have we got it done. So you have to look at both elements of it. 

[FireChans]

6 minutes ago, White Linen said:

 

So Daboll got a head coaching gig, Brady got interviewed, Dorsey immediately got another OC job because Beane sucks and McD is great.  

 

Why haven't any of McD's defensive guys get head coaching jobs?  Oh yeah because Beane sucks, haha.

Great QBs get OC’s hired. They always have. That’s where guys like Adam Gase and Josh McDaniels come from. 
 

None of those hires are referendums on McD or Beane, except for the fact that Beane drafted Josh.

[White Linen]

9 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

 

 

I do think Brandon Beane deserves more blame than coaching. 100%. He has blown 3 first picks in a row and all those decisons were major factors in the defeat tonight.

 

 

So you think we made it to the AFC championship game with this roster and coaching.  The final difference for losing was that Beane's roster construction got edged out more than McD did?  

[Jerboski]

54 minutes ago, Danger Mouse said:

People can think what they like. 

 

But McDermott will be here next season, and rightly so. 

 

 

 

And you are going to have the same outcome as the last 5 

46 minutes ago, transient said:

McDermott’s playoff defense makes it imperative that Allen plays a perfect every year, or they will lose. Look at how easy of a night Mahomes had compared to Spag’s defense that Allen had to face. Under the circumstances, with almost the same stats, all the media will talk about is how great Mahomes is despite Allen having had to face 10x the pressure and playing his ass off. Kincaid let him down tremendously on that desperation heave while getting sacked that hit him in the hands. Credit to KC’s defense for shutting down the Bills on 3rd and 4th and 1. It was the difference in the game. Wish we had a defense that we could rely on to do that…

Yep the chiefs haven’t scored that many points all playoffs yet Sean js a defensive wizard smh 

[PBF81]

2 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

They were dreadful first half yes. The played a better 2nd half. The gameplan was wrong first half. Way too much man coverage. We might have the horses to do that against Bateman and the tight ends of Baltimore but we don't to go against the speed of Hollywood, Worthy and Pacheco - especially once Benford went out but tbh I think even before.

 

Second half we went back to our defense, played much more zone and were better. 

 

Better is relative.  They still allowed KC two-thirds of their first game with us in the second half.  

 

2 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

But I am not arguing the D was good. It was bad. Especially first half. I didn't expect it to be good. Defenses that finish 3rd or 4th worst on 3rd down in the NFL are not good defenses. 

 

That's good because it wasn't, in either half.  But for a team who's high in points scored on the season was 30, once, 29 points was more than enough to win it had even an average defense showed up.  

 

2 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

What I am saying is even with the D being basically a bit worse than you might have expected they still gave the Bills a chance to win the game at the end which has happened two years in a row. And neither time have we got it done. So you have to look at both elements of it. 

 

I think you're missing what I'm saying.  The D allowed the Chiefs to have their best offensive output ALL SEASON.  

 

Carolina did better.  Are we not at least as good as Carolina, who ranked 32nd in D?  
 

Also, 4-0 in the Regular Season, 0-4 in the Postseason.  Same teams each year.  Does much more have to be said.  

 

 

[GunnerBill]

1 minute ago, White Linen said:

 

 

So you think we made it to the AFC championship game with this roster and coaching.  The final difference for losing was that Beane's roster construction got edged out more than McD did?  

 

Yea, I do. The coaching wasn't faultless tonight. Not at all. Too cute on both sides of the ball first half. Not enough Cook and too much man coverage. But made good halftime adjustments and helped us get back in the game. 

 

I think Elam being a liability, Kincaid's drops (two but obviously the big one at the end) and the Worthy - Coleman misstep all contributed pretty significantly to the outcome because of plays they did or didn't make. That is the last three years of first round decision making and in the biggest game of the year it looks like all those decisions were wrong.

[Draconator]

Some food for thought. The Toronto Raptors fired the reigning coach of the year. Then went on the next season and won the NBA Championship. 

[White Linen]

4 minutes ago, FireChans said:

Great QBs get OC’s hired. They always have. That’s where guys like Adam Gase and Josh McDaniels come from. 
 

None of those hires are referendums on McD or Beane, except for the fact that Beane drafted Josh.

 

Exactly.  This train is driven by Allen and Beane whom drafted him.  McDermott isn't doing his part.  Hence none of his defensive coaches are getting HC interviews.  

 

He's a good coach but he's not the one to beat the Chiefs.  He can't do it.  It's not that Josh can't do it or Beane isn't getting him good enough players.  He can't get it done.