Hard to beat the Chiefs and the refs every post-season

[90sBills]

59 minutes ago, Brand J said:

I don’t think so. The evidence has to be there to outrage folks. If it’s a SB where calls are right, balls are spotted correctly, and hardly any flags are thrown - on both sides - then there can’t be much complaining about officiating. The better team won. If it’s another SB where a crucial call - a tug on a jersey - on an overthrown ball gifts KC a whole new set of first downs and the ability to run out the clock and kick a game winning FG, you can believe there will be complaints. That exact situation has already happened. 

Tug on the jersey is literally a hold. And it was called as such. The defender that committed the foul even said it was a hold and he was hoping to get away with it. I’m not sure what’s controversial about that call at all.
 

It all boils down to everyone is getting sick of KC winning. Are the officials bad sometimes with inconsistent and inaccurate calls? Absolutely yes! That’s been the story of the NFL since I was a kid. If you have different teams winning SB’s every year people wouldn’t really mind it. But when one team keeps winning then you get this current environment. 

[90sBills]

54 minutes ago, Generic_Bills_Fan said:

 

like they have objectively caught tons of breaks the last year or two, it’s at the minimum referee incompetence that just happens to break the chiefs way.  But if it’s JUST random incompetence, why does every late close call always fall their way. Over a huge sample size the gamechanging late calls should even out and it just doesn’t for the chiefs.
 

Maybe they’re a more disciplined team that plays with more poise under pressure because they’ve been through so many of those situations. It’s ok to give them credit for winning without thinking there’s some grand conspiracy. If the Bills could suddenly have this kind of success I would revel in all of the hate they’d get from all other fanbases. All the ‘they get all the calls’ type complaints.

[Brand J]

20 minutes ago, 90sBills said:

Tug on the jersey is literally a hold. And it was called as such. The defender that committed the foul even said it was a hold and he was hoping to get away with it. I’m not sure what’s controversial about that call at all.
 

It all boils down to everyone is getting sick of KC winning. Are the officials bad sometimes with inconsistent and inaccurate calls? Absolutely yes! That’s been the story of the NFL since I was a kid. If you have different teams winning SB’s every year people wouldn’t really mind it. But when one team keeps winning then you get this current environment. 

If I recall, Bradberry also said he tugged on the jersey because the officials had been letting them play all game, but in that critical instance they called him for it. That’s the very definition of inconsistent. That sort of tug happens all the time with DBs and is rarely called. Do you disagree? To call it in that moment, knowing full well the ramifications of the penalty on a 3rd and 9, it was just a disgusting end to a highly competitive SB.
 

If it happened in the Bills favor I’d laugh and say “I’ll take it!” knowing it’s a call that shouldn’t have been made. As officials, they should’ve let them play, call a foul if it’s egregious and has to be called, don’t call something ticky tack that decides the game. People get upset when inconsistencies and inaccuracies tend to favor one team. That’s the crux of the hate.

22 minutes ago, 90sBills said:

Maybe they’re a more disciplined team that plays with more poise under pressure because they’ve been through so many of those situations.

Except there’s tons of evidence out there to the contrary, most notably how their offensive line gets away with continuous holds. Not during the regular season, they’re called for it then, but in the postseason? They still play the way they’re accustomed to playing, but the refs have swallowed their whistles.

[90sBills]

13 minutes ago, Brand J said:

If I recall, Bradberry also said he tugged on the jersey because the officials had been letting them play all game, but in that critical instance they called him for it. That’s the very definition of inconsistent. That sort of tug happens all the time with DBs and is rarely called. Do you disagree? To call it in that moment, knowing full well the ramifications of the penalty on a 3rd and 9, it was just a disgusting end to a highly competitive SB.
 

If it happened in the Bills favor I’d laugh and say “I’ll take it!” knowing it’s a call that shouldn’t have been made. As officials, they should’ve let them play, call a foul if it’s egregious and has to be called, don’t call something ticky tack that decides the game. People get upset when inconsistencies and inaccuracies tend to favor one team. That’s the crux of the hate.

Except there’s tons of evidence out there to the contrary, most notably how their offensive line gets away with continuous holds. Not during the regular season, they’re called for it then, but in the postseason? They still play the way they’re accustomed to playing, but the refs have swallowed their whistles.

I disagree with this statement. Whenever a jersey is pulled out to that extent it’s usually called. Yes there were missed calls early in that game, as well as every single NFL game in the entire history of the NFL. That’s the human aspect of the game. 

[Brand J]

3 minutes ago, 90sBills said:

I disagree with this statement. Whenever a jersey is pulled out to that extent it’s usually called. Yes there were missed calls early in that game, as well as every single NFL game in the entire history of the NFL. That’s the human aspect of the game. 

It’s called when it’s hung onto, not when it’s grabbed and let go a second later. Our own Benford gets away with this all the time. 

Edited Saturday at 08:28 PM by Brand J

[Ed_Formerly_of_Roch]

1 hour ago, reddogblitz said:

 

I think the NBA is worse and MLB is 1000% better about this than the NFL.  I used to love NBA basketball but quit watching it in 1993 from blatant favoritism of certain teams and players in the Jordon/Barkley era.  I rarely watch NBA now if ever.

 

Rarely do we hear of a MLB game being decided by bad ump calls. In 2023, they had a WS between the Texas Rangers and the Arizona Diamondbacks playing small ball.  TV ratings were lower and they knew they would be but they didn't try to rig it to get Houston and Philly in.  

 

Not sure I could quit NFL football cuz my Dad, a great man, got me addicted to it so it would be hard to drop. NFL is starting to try my patience.

 

I've actually started watching more NBA of late.  What does drive me crazy in both NBA and even worse in college is they stop play to review the clock, it takes 10 minutes to figure it out and add an entire .4 seconds to the clock.  

 

To me college basketball has become unwatchable between the one and done's leaves you with hardly any idea on who is on what teams and for the most part these college kids can't shoot worth anything.  In the NBA if you leave a player open from 10 feet, most of the time they will make the open shot, but not  in college anymore.

[90sBills]

40 minutes ago, Brand J said:

It’s called when it’s hung onto, not when it’s grabbed and let go a second later. Our own Benford gets away with this all the time. 

 That play was egregious to me. We can agree to disagree. It’s all good. 

[Michael1962]

Stevie Wonder tweeted after the game that he saw no evidence of biased officiating. So that settles it for me. To accuse a multi-billion dollar industry that pays taxes (at least they have for almost a WHOLE 10 years) of having anything but the average fan's interests in seeing a fair game is just ridiculous. The way people talk you would think that the NFL partners with sportsbooks (FanDuel, DraftKings, Caesars, etc.). Whoops, ignore that last comment please. What next,  are you whiners going to argue that the Gulf of Tonkin incident never actually happened, or something ridiculous like that?

[Scott7975]

I read that the flu is running through Philly locker room and a lot of the star players are sick. How convenient.

[beebe]

wow launch an investigation immediately, this must be conspiracy.

 

 

[Orlando Buffalo]

7 hours ago, 90sBills said:

I disagree with this statement. Whenever a jersey is pulled out to that extent it’s usually called. Yes there were missed calls early in that game, as well as every single NFL game in the entire history of the NFL. That’s the human aspect of the game. 

Are you being serious or do simply not know football at all? Every one of your posts is from the guy who is pretending to be an intellectual while having a room temperature IQ. If you need examples look at Bills vs TB in 2021, or Bills vs Jags in 2021, or how about TB vs GB in 2020. The only remotely intelligent thing you say is it is not a "conspiracy" because it is simply 60+ year olds who are not physically in shape enough to do a proper job, they aren't corrupt just incompetent. 

[90sBills]

48 minutes ago, Orlando Buffalo said:

Are you being serious or do simply not know football at all? Every one of your posts is from the guy who is pretending to be an intellectual while having a room temperature IQ. If you need examples look at Bills vs TB in 2021, or Bills vs Jags in 2021, or how about TB vs GB in 2020. The only remotely intelligent thing you say is it is not a "conspiracy" because it is simply 60+ year olds who are not physically in shape enough to do a proper job, they aren't corrupt just incompetent. 

What did you find so offensive about my post. Why the insults? Does it make you feel better to insult strangers online? If it does then that’s ok. I’m always in favor of helping people feel good, even at my own expense. 
 

Hope your day gets better. 

[Orlando Buffalo]

7 hours ago, 90sBills said:

What did you find so offensive about my post. Why the insults? Does it make you feel better to insult strangers online? If it does then that’s ok. I’m always in favor of helping people feel good, even at my own expense. 
 

Hope your day gets better. 

I came on too strong, I apologize, your statements about "usually called" is completely meaningless because the issue generally being discussed is the complete lack of actual standard overall, and even inside a single game. That kind of  jersey tug is almost never called because the tug happens on at least half the plays, and I do mean at least half. 

[The Red King]

It's not just the calls.  Yes, officiating has been bad for a long while.  It's just how, by some *amazing* coincidence all of these close, critical, controversial plays go the Chiefs' way.  All of them.  Every time.  Every game.  I mean, statistically, what are the odds?

[stlbills13]

It's one of two things and I'm honestly not sure what's worse

 

The NFL is straight up rigged for the chiefs

 

Or

 

The NFL refs are really really bad with every questionable/wrong call going to the same team (Chiefs) and the NFL doesn't do anything about it

[ChronicAndKnuckles]

13 hours ago, Michael1962 said:

Stevie Wonder tweeted after the game that he saw no evidence of biased officiating. So that settles it for me. To accuse a multi-billion dollar industry that pays taxes (at least they have for almost a WHOLE 10 years) of having anything but the average fan's interests in seeing a fair game is just ridiculous. The way people talk you would think that the NFL partners with sportsbooks (FanDuel, DraftKings, Caesars, etc.). Whoops, ignore that last comment please. What next,  are you whiners going to argue that the Gulf of Tonkin incident never actually happened, or something ridiculous like that?

Yeah, it’s like the crazy people that think the Government is monitoring it’s citizens through electronic devices. Wait…

1 hour ago, The Red King said:

It's not just the calls.  Yes, officiating has been bad for a long while.  It's just how, by some *amazing* coincidence all of these close, critical, controversial plays go the Chiefs' way.  All of them.  Every time.  Every game.  I mean, statistically, what are the odds?

That’s the deal breaker for me. Before I just chalked it up to human error which is understandable. Remember the replacement refs and how they were giving equally terrible calls to each team ? I’d rather have that 

Edited Sunday at 01:49 PM by ChronicAndKnuckles

[90sBills]

3 hours ago, Orlando Buffalo said:

I came on too strong, I apologize, your statements about "usually called" is completely meaningless because the issue generally being discussed is the complete lack of actual standard overall, and even inside a single game. That kind of  jersey tug is almost never called because the tug happens on at least half the plays, and I do mean at least half. 

Apology accepted. We’re all passionate about this sport so I get it. All good. 

 

If I remember correctly the angle from the broadcast showed very little. I remember thinking ‘that’s what the called was?’ when watching it live. Greg Olsen went on and on about how ticky tack it was and I agreed at the time. After the game, better angles of the infraction were shown, including a still photo of the jersey being pulled as the receiver came out of his break. I agreed with the call after seeing that. 
 

Like I said, these officials will miss calls. We know this. After that end of game blatant dpi no call in the playoffs between the Saints and Rams a few years ago the officials really scrutinized those situations. They may miss some things, or even not call things, earlier in games but those end of game situations they’re going to call them. That was exactly what happened to Bradbury in that Super Bowl.

  

[Goin Breakdown]

12 hours ago, beebe said:

wow launch an investigation immediately, this must be conspiracy.

 

 

So what I'm getting from this is play solid penalty free football and you'll get to the big game. 
 

 

 

 

I mean they say holding can be called on every play, but yeah penalty free football. 

[ChronicAndKnuckles]

On 2/7/2025 at 12:21 PM, TheFunPolice said:

I don't buy into the ref thing. 

 

Plus, what happens when you win? Was it rigged for you then? 

 

Nah, we left plays out there on the field against a team that is going for its 4th SB win in the last 6 SBs. 

Chiefs left plenty of plays out there themselves letting Buffalo claw their way back to the final minutes.

 

Billionaires just wanted a more favorable SB matchup. The refs, greedy owners, and most of all Illegal gambling are ruining pro sports. Taking money from the working man to give to the already filthy rich owners. 

 

Look at the NBA and Luka getting traded to the Lakers. All done to jump start the declining rating by giving the most popular international player to the most popular team. There’s stuff being manipulated behind the scenes. Mahomes is a bigger name than Josh Allen, Taylor Swift is international and brings MILLIONS more fans tuning in. The Bills are a nice story for long time NFL fans, but the Mahomes/Kelce/Swift trifecta is too hard to pass up on.