MPT Posted Monday at 03:42 AM Posted Monday at 03:42 AM 23 minutes ago, BullBuchanan said: The refs has nothing to do with the outcome today. We had every opportunity to win, and predictably choked. Interception for the Bills became a Chiefs' 30 yard completion. Phantom PI against Elam prevented a Chiefs' punt. Successful 4th down QB sneak in the 4th quarter inexplicably became the Chiefs' ball. Penalty flag against the Chiefs on the Bills' last play was picked up with no explanation. This isn't rocket science. Refs know exactly when and where to have the biggest impact while making things seem close. It's all fixed. 2 1 3 2 1 Quote
ChronicAndKnuckles Posted Monday at 03:42 AM Author Posted Monday at 03:42 AM 6 minutes ago, BillsFanNC said: Listen. The officiating in the NFL is AWFUL. Did it impact both teams tonight? Yes. But the Bills were massively outcoached while also having worse calls AND non calls against them. Again this is something that is par for the course in the 2025 NFL. Be better than the other team AND the officials. The Bills were better than NEITHER the Chiefs or the officials. Thus they lost. Out coached and still were a dropped ball by Kincaid from tying it. I think the coaching staff made some great adjustments at half. And u shouldn’t have to be better than a supposed unbiased officiating crew, this is an NFL problem and seems to favor the same teams over and over. People are getting sick of it. I refuse to believe the Chiefs are just a super clean team free of making mistakes year in and year out come playoff time. Quote
Matt_In_NH Posted Monday at 03:43 AM Posted Monday at 03:43 AM 27 minutes ago, ILBillsfan said: Kincaid on the third down got the first on the replay Dave Pourtneoy shares below and then the line judge on the far right has the coprrect spot and they went with the ref on the left who can not see what the ref on the rigth see's This a Chiefs fan? I thought they had it on third too......this sequence was huge. Still the wrong playcall on 4th.....I fell strongly about that, it was close and you let the zebras decide. They shoudl have had a different play with the way the QB sneaks were going. 1 1 Quote
Zerovoltz Posted Monday at 03:44 AM Posted Monday at 03:44 AM 6 minutes ago, dma0034 said: Just out of curiosity: I think everyone agrees that the 3rd and 3 where Kincaid caught it was poorly spotted. How come no one is blaming McDermott or the Bills replay assistant or even the NFL replay Assist for not calling down and spotting that ball properly? THIS^^^^^^ Quote
ChronicAndKnuckles Posted Monday at 03:47 AM Author Posted Monday at 03:47 AM 8 minutes ago, dma0034 said: Just out of curiosity: I think everyone agrees that the 3rd and 3 where Kincaid caught it was poorly spotted. How come no one is blaming McDermott or the Bills replay assistant or even the NFL replay Assist for not calling down and spotting that ball properly? Oh like when they correctly reversed the Worthy catch at the 4 and called it an incompletion? Quote
MPT Posted Monday at 03:47 AM Posted Monday at 03:47 AM 3 minutes ago, ChronicAndKnuckles said: Out coached and still were a dropped ball by Kincaid from tying it. I think the coaching staff made some great adjustments at half. And u shouldn’t have to be better than a supposed unbiased officiating crew, this is an NFL problem and seems to favor the same teams over and over. People are getting sick of it. I refuse to believe the Chiefs are just a super clean team free of making mistakes year in and year out come playoff time. All of their mistakes are mitigated by officiating. 2 1 Quote
ChronicAndKnuckles Posted Monday at 03:48 AM Author Posted Monday at 03:48 AM 1 minute ago, Big Blitz said: Even worse than I originally thought 🤮 Quote
Matt_In_NH Posted Monday at 03:49 AM Posted Monday at 03:49 AM 11 minutes ago, dma0034 said: Just out of curiosity: I think everyone agrees that the 3rd and 3 where Kincaid caught it was poorly spotted. How come no one is blaming McDermott or the Bills replay assistant or even the NFL replay Assist for not calling down and spotting that ball properly? I believe the Bills hurried to the line there......... Quote
Toledo Bill Posted Monday at 03:50 AM Posted Monday at 03:50 AM 25 minutes ago, Simon said: The constant crying about referees is an embarrassment to the entire fanbase, imo. By "entire", I hope you mean all NFL fans.... not just the Bill's. Our fan base is far from the only one that cries about the Refs (especially in regards to the Chiefs). 1 1 Quote
MPT Posted Monday at 03:50 AM Posted Monday at 03:50 AM 5 minutes ago, Zerovoltz said: THIS^^^^^^ Because it's all fixed for the Chiefs and it literally wouldn't matter if they challenged it. Enjoy your sham dynasty, cheater. 2 1 1 Quote
Punch Posted Monday at 03:51 AM Posted Monday at 03:51 AM 3 minutes ago, Big Blitz said: "A game of inches" is exactly right, and why plays like these alter not only games but careers. 1 1 Quote
ExiledInIllinois Posted Monday at 03:51 AM Posted Monday at 03:51 AM Yellow lime isn't official, BUT not that far off! Quote
Simon Posted Monday at 03:51 AM Posted Monday at 03:51 AM 1 minute ago, Toledo Bill said: By "entire", I hope you mean all NFL fans.... not just the Bill's. Our fan base is far from the only one that cries about the Refs (especially in regards to the Chiefs). It's the only one I see firsthand so I can't really speak to any others'. Quote
BillsFanNC Posted Monday at 03:52 AM Posted Monday at 03:52 AM (edited) Milano gets called for a face mask. Right call but at sideline and often missed. Rousseau ends up with his helmet on the ground front and center a few plays later and nada. This is the the WWF NFL. In a game with two evenly matched teams these calls and missed calls are CRUCIAL. Especially when you're getting outcoached simultaneously Edited Monday at 03:55 AM by BillsFanNC 1 1 2 Quote
Generic_Bills_Fan Posted Monday at 03:52 AM Posted Monday at 03:52 AM Just now, Simon said: It's the only one I see firsthand so I can't really speak to any others'. The whole world is doing it right now haha Quote
PromoTheRobot Posted Monday at 03:52 AM Posted Monday at 03:52 AM This was the first KC game I've seen that I didn't feel like was a hose job. That spot on 4th you can argue about but next time don't get stuffed. 1 1 Quote
SinceThe70s Posted Monday at 03:54 AM Posted Monday at 03:54 AM 23 minutes ago, Simon said: The constant crying about referees is an embarrassment to the entire fanbase, imo. Where I'll disagree is it's not just this fanbase - from what I've seen it's the majority of the football watching public. Was at a HS football game in the fall and less than 5 minutes into the game a guy sitting next to me was livid over the refs spotting the ball. And the plays weren't even first down or not spots. Folks are hyper focused on the refs. I thought we should've gotten the first down call on review and looking back at the 3rd down play it never should have come down to it. But the bigger issue to me was the over-reliance on Josh on 4th and short when it was getting stuffed going back to last week so I get your point. 1 Quote
MPT Posted Monday at 03:54 AM Posted Monday at 03:54 AM 22 minutes ago, Matt_In_NH said: Blaming the refs just makes you look like a total B word Or, you know, someone that realizes when they're being swindled. 2 1 Quote
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