Hard to beat the Chiefs and the refs every post-season

[Dablitzkrieg]

Someone needs to explain this blended clock crap.  Logically  it make zero sense to me.

[Generic_Bills_Fan]

8 minutes ago, The Wiz said:

just saw this overhead view (not sure if posted yet).  How the refs could mark that short is amazing to me.

 

 

I couldn’t fully grasp how bad of a spot that was until I felt like punishing myself and watched it a bunch of times lol there is zero doubt he picked it up…feels like basically a technicality they couldn’t overturn it on review…it takes combining a couple angles to be able to tell.  The yellow line isn’t even correct the first down was just short of the 40.  That line judge that got the best look at it ran in with a perfect spot 

 

above angle does a pretty good job showing he got it too I’m not sure why that wasn’t enough 

Edited Tuesday at 01:12 AM by Generic_Bills_Fan

[Dr.Mantis_Toboggan]

On 1/27/2025 at 4:04 PM, Harold Jackson said:

Yeah, keep telling yourself those cliches.

No, the game went as it was supposed to go. There was no failure or inability to conquer adversity. KC won because they were supposed to.

State Farm and Swift fans are too large an investment to refuse to appease.

Go get your iPhone 16. 

 

 

I don’t want to believe it, but it’s no surprise that with any Taylor Swift appearance comes a boost in ratings, and with them down this year in the playoffs the league couldn’t risk not having Taylor at the Super Bowl guaranteeing her legions will tune in for whatever glimpse they show of her, as often as possible.

 

 I also agree with the Statefarm stuff too, every other facet of society has been corrupted by outside influences but we’re supposed to believe the NFL is immune? Going back to the Chiefs Eagles first Super Bowl, poor officiating dictated the outcome of a close game, and all the way to the end of their *threepeat, the theme continues of officials making huge calls in the Chiefs favor in critical moments of the game. The NFL is like right at Jake Paul level of sports legitimacy at this point in my eyes- sure they’re technically boxing, but we all know who’s supposed to win…

Edited yesterday at 02:09 AM by Dr.Mantis_Toboggan

[ChronicAndKnuckles]

3 hours ago, Scott7975 said:

I view that play as an easy first down. The ref that could see the ball was going to call it a first down. The ref that could only see Allens back and not the ball called it short. The ref that could see the ball then called it short. Who the hell goes with the guy that can't see the ball.  On replay you can absolutely piece together the angles and see its a first down. I've watched every media outlet this morning and they all said that was a first down. The ex ref in the booth said it was a first down. If you don't see a first down there then you are just dense. We got screwed there.

 

That said, I don't even care about that play. I care that Kincaid dropped the pass. His time was called to make a play and he didn't make it. Thats the difference between the Chiefs and the Bills. When it's someone on the Chiefs and their time is called to make a play, they always make it. When someone on the Bills time is called to make a play, they don't.

 

I would also blame Brady on that play. Calling spread offense in that situation is just inviting the pressure. They should not been in spread. Allen also shifted the protection the wrong way. A lot of things went wrong on that play. At the end, Allen made the play anyways. Kincaid didn't.

Absolutely agree. The whole world knew KC was going to bring the heat on that play. Brady had his head up his ass the entire game. He tried to get cute instead of sticking with the winning formula that got him to the AFCC which is RUN THE DAMN BALL. They did it against the #1 Run D the Ravens and it worked magnificently. 

[Motorin']

2 hours ago, Generic_Bills_Fan said:

I couldn’t fully grasp how bad of a spot that was until I felt like punishing myself and watched it a bunch of times lol there is zero doubt he picked it up…feels like basically a technicality they couldn’t overturn it on review…it takes combining a couple angles to be able to tell.  The yellow line isn’t even correct the first down was just short of the 40.  That line judge that got the best look at it ran in with a perfect spot 

 

above angle does a pretty good job showing he got it too I’m not sure why that wasn’t enough 

 

Here's definitive proof it was a first down

 

https://www.facebook.com/share/v/15i9NXnTAq/

 

 

[Georgia Bill]

Referees missed two first down calls in Bills AFC Championship loss to Chiefs, a breakdown - YouTube

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fs-L3jODWdE

This is the best analysis I've seen.  

[TheFunPolice]

Has anyone mentioned that flag/non flag on the 4th down desperation heave to Kincaid?

 

I've been arguing with the "it's rigged" people all day but that one has me stumped.

 

After the play the flag icon came up and Romo was talking about there being a flag.

 

But then it was dropped and no explanation. 

 

Was it Allen insurance? If Kincaid catches it they call holding on our OL or something but since it was incomplete no need to open that can of worms about how the refs were going to take that play away if we had made it? 

[ChronicAndKnuckles]

 

 

7 minutes ago, TheFunPolice said:

Has anyone mentioned that flag/non flag on the 4th down desperation heave to Kincaid?

 

I've been arguing with the "it's rigged" people all day but that one has me stumped.

 

After the play the flag icon came up and Romo was talking about there being a flag.

 

But then it was dropped and no explanation. 

 

Was it Allen insurance? If Kincaid catches it they call holding on our OL or something but since it was incomplete no need to open that can of worms about how the refs were going to take that play away if we had made it? 

It was confirmed that a late flag was thrown on an alternate broadcast and then picked up with no apparent explanation given. I really hope this subject doesn’t die amongst the general public. Something needs to be done. It’s been snowballing for years

[TheFunPolice]

9 minutes ago, ChronicAndKnuckles said:

 

 

It was confirmed that a late flag was thrown on an alternate broadcast and then picked up with no apparent explanation given. I really hope this subject doesn’t die amongst the general public. Something needs to be done. It’s been snowballing for years

 

I had originally started a new thread about it then figured it belonged here instead.

 

Imo either it was Allen insurance holding on Bills OL or a defensive holding that the ref got talked out of.

 

 

Edited Tuesday at 04:34 AM by TheFunPolice

[ChronicAndKnuckles]

28 minutes ago, Georgia Bill said:

Referees missed two first down calls in Bills AFC Championship loss to Chiefs, a breakdown - YouTube

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fs-L3jODWdE

This is the best analysis I've seen.  

Dude, this footage makes it even more conclusive. On Allen’s first surge he is more than half a yard past the line to gain

[Kelly to Allen]

3 hours ago, Dablitzkrieg said:

Someone needs to explain this blended clock crap.  Logically  it make zero sense to me.

 

" Just give it to em"

 

Ref talking to the chain movers in foxboro 1998....

[ChronicAndKnuckles]

Here’s an even better angle. Edit: looks like a full length of a football past the LTG. Pretty damning if u ask me. Ball is cradled in his left arm when u reverse angles. How can the refs not figure this out w/ high quality replay, but I can screenshot this off regular game footage?

Edited Tuesday at 04:58 AM by ChronicAndKnuckles

[Harold Jackson]

No one beats the refs.

May the force be with you

And the odds forever in your favor.

 

[Returntoglory]

By all accounts , there was never a physical measurement with the sticks on that controversial run.

 

Wouldn't this have been a perfect scenario for a measurement??

[davefan66]

Wouldn’t have mattered. They made sure they spotted the ball short of the line.

[Real McClappy]

Could say the same about 3rd down when Kincaid already had the 1st down they marked a 1/2 yard short to even get to 4th.  

 

This is when you throw a challenge flag or the stupid eye in the SKY correct the call on 3rd so 4th isn't even talked about. The league as we all know has so many holes in a legit "game of inches". Tech wise they are like 20 years behind.

[Rochesterfan]

12 minutes ago, Returntoglory said:

By all accounts , there was never a physical measurement with the sticks on that controversial run.

 

Wouldn't this have been a perfect scenario for a measurement??

 

The sticks are there this year mostly for decoration.  
 

The NFL said prior to the year you would see less measurements because they were using the eagle eye spotting and that is what you got.

 

Someone above made the spot and deemed it short. 

[Ralonzo]

7 minutes ago, Real McClappy said:

Could say the same about 3rd down when Kincaid already had the 1st down they marked a 1/2 yard short to even get to 4th.  

 

This is when you throw a challenge flag or the stupid eye in the SKY correct the call on 3rd so 4th isn't even talked about. The league as we all know has so many holes in a legit "game of inches". Tech wise they are like 20 years behind.

Replay assist was quite willing to overturn a first down that Cook had made, well after the chains had been moved. And how do you trust the league with a challenge after that receiver-defender-ground “simultaneous possession” nonsense, or the ref after awarding the challenge only after he saw the Chiefs next play was a botch and literally declaring a “do-over”? There was a lot of fishy stuff that you don’t see in a game - and I’ve seen an awful lot of games - where if the game wasn’t overtly fixed, it was shaded.

[TrentEdwardsCheckDownOn4th]

Bill Burr says it best:

 

https://www.facebook.com/share/r/15EpHAVsTe/

[Repulsif]

In case it hasn't been mentioned yet

https://img3.super-h.fr/images/2025/01/28/snapshot_16807.jpg