Pass catcher is still our #1 need

[HappyDays]

14 minutes ago, NewEra said:

If a stud pass rusher isn’t going to make this defense any better- then I’d agree with you.

 

i don’t believe that to be the case though.  Pass rush is the most important aspect of football other than QB play imo.  

 

To be clear I'm talking about our matchups with KC in the playoffs. Adding Crosby or Garrett would certainly lead to better defensive results in the regular season. But nothing about the game last night is making me think "if only we had a premier pass rusher." What's the point? Andy Reid out schemed us and Mahomes was getting the ball out to a wide open WR within 3 seconds on most plays. Rousseau is supposed to be the best contain EDGE in the game and he completely failed in his responsibilities.

 

If anything on defense I want to see us add to the secondary, clearly the entire secondary needs to be rebuilt outside of Benford. But that can't be the primary focus of the offseason. The primary focus has to be developing an offense that can score on every drive against KC and especially the last drive. That's how we get over the hump. Twice now Allen has had the ball in his hands with a chance to win and we couldn't finish them off, because the players around him failed to support him.

[appoo]

7 minutes ago, HappyDays said:

 

The problem is that our offseason strategy made it impossible to be patient. Coleman was forced into a role he wasn't ready for because there was no one above him in the depth chart. That's why I keep saying they need to over invest. Everyone understands draft picks are lottery tickets. We keep buying one at a time and expecting to hit the jackpot. We need to make a repeated concerted effort to add to the room like the Steelers have done for years and just by sheer luck we will probably get a couple hits. KC has had a bunch of disappointing WR picks but they hit the jackpot with Rashee Rice and Worthy looks like he could be a good pick, all because they kept investing in the position. I'd like to make a major FA investment too just to be 100% sure we have a stud in the room. The half measures strategy isn't cutting it.

What's gotten the Chiefs offense to turn the corner for the last quarter of the season is getting Hollywood Brown back 

[Buffalo Barbarian]

15 hours ago, HappyDays said:

We entered the past two offseasons desperately needing more pass catchers. Well here we are again. Coleman was a non-factor. Samuel dropped a catch, tougher than it needed to be but still a play there to be made. The final play of the game a pass catcher let us down. The more I think about it the more disgusted I am.

 

Hopefully Beane has finally learned that he needs to OVER invest in pass catchers. The only way we're winning a Super Bowl under this regime is with an offense that can completely steamroll the competition. We need someone other than Allen that can make the clutch play at the end. No more half measures. Go all in on giving Allen an offensive cast worthy of his talent.

 

Josh was at his best when he had Brown and Beasley.

 

We need a deep threat and a legit underneath guy. I like Shakir but nobody got open like Beasley did.

 

 

Edited Monday at 06:46 PM by Buffalo Barbarian

[NewEra]

9 minutes ago, HappyDays said:

 

To be clear I'm talking about our matchups with KC in the playoffs. Adding Crosby or Garrett would certainly lead to better defensive results in the regular season. But nothing about the game last night is making me think "if only we had a premier pass rusher." What's the point? Andy Reid out schemed us and Mahomes was getting the ball out to a wide open WR within 3 seconds on most plays. Rousseau is supposed to be the best contain EDGE in the game and he completely failed in his responsibilities.

 

If anything on defense I want to see us add to the secondary, clearly the entire secondary needs to be rebuilt outside of Benford. But that can't be the primary focus of the offseason. The primary focus has to be developing an offense that can score on every drive against KC and especially the last drive. That's how we get over the hump. Twice now Allen has had the ball in his hands with a chance to win and we couldn't finish them off, because the players around him failed to support him.

Watching AJ play 70% of the snaps and not even sniff Mahomes has me thinking that a stud pass rusher would’ve made a difference.  Our defense got stops when we got sacks.  AJ was invisible to my eye.  Maybe I wasn’t keying in enough 

[Trust The Process]

@Brandon Beane... Coleman couldn't separate in college. What made you think he can separate in the NFL? It's mind-boggling.

 

After the Diggs trade, you had an extra 2nd round pick in 2025 to go along with your own draft picks in 2024 that you should've packaged to get ahead of the Jaguars who selected Brian Thomas Jr with the 23rd overall pick.

 

According to the NFL Trade Value Chart in 2024, the Bills 28th overall pick is worth 660 points. The 30th overall pick held by Baltimore in the 2024 NFL Draft is worth 284 points which is what the Bills own 2nd round pick is worth in the 2025 draft. 660 plus 284 equals 944 points which meant you could've found 1 of 6 teams to trade with between the 22nd overall pick held by the Eagles which is worth 780 points, and as high as the 17th overall pick held by the Vikings selection which is worth 950 points.

 

Going into the 2024 draft, Brian Thomas Jr size, speed, and skills is exactly what the Bills needed most. We signed Hollins in Free Agency before the draft. Hollins is Gabe Davis replacement, and is almost the same type of WR Coleman is, which means you didn't need to draft Coleman. What we needed is Brian Thomas Jr who is a field stretcher and big play maker.

 

My fear is Coleman was drafted based on how he wowed y'all in the interview process. What a HUGE missed opportunity not trading up for BT Jr. I hope I'm wrong, but Keon Coleman will be a 1st round bust and nothing more than a backup WR in his career.

[ngbills]

17 minutes ago, Trust The Process said:

@Brandon Beane... Coleman couldn't separate in college. What made you think he can separate in the NFL? It's mind-boggling.

 

After the Diggs trade, you had an extra 2nd round pick in 2025 to go along with your own draft picks in 2024 that you should've packaged to get ahead of the Jaguars who selected Brian Thomas Jr with the 23rd overall pick.

 

According to the NFL Trade Value Chart in 2024, the Bills 28th overall pick is worth 660 points. The 30th overall pick held by Baltimore in the 2024 NFL Draft is worth 284 points which is what the Bills own 2nd round pick is worth in the 2025 draft. 660 plus 284 equals 944 points which meant you could've found 1 of 6 teams to trade with between the 22nd overall pick held by the Eagles which is worth 780 points, and as high as the 17th overall pick held by the Vikings selection which is worth 950 points.

 

Going into the 2024 draft, Brian Thomas Jr size, speed, and skills is exactly what the Bills needed most. We signed Hollins in Free Agency before the draft. Hollins is Gabe Davis replacement, and is almost the same type of WR Coleman is, which means you didn't need to draft Coleman. What we needed is Brian Thomas Jr who is a field stretcher and big play maker.

 

My fear is Coleman was drafted based on how he wowed y'all in the interview process. What a HUGE missed opportunity not trading up for BT Jr. I hope I'm wrong, but Keon Coleman will be a 1st round bust and nothing more than a backup WR in his career.

My hope was for Thomas last year. Obviously that would have been a huge pick. You could argue they drafted Thomas, maybe we dont trade for Cooper and instead added another impact player at the deadline. 

[Allen2Moulds]

16 hours ago, HappyDays said:

We entered the past two offseasons desperately needing more pass catchers. Well here we are again. Coleman was a non-factor. Samuel dropped a catch, tougher than it needed to be but still a play there to be made. The final play of the game a pass catcher let us down. The more I think about it the more disgusted I am.

 

Hopefully Beane has finally learned that he needs to OVER invest in pass catchers. The only way we're winning a Super Bowl under this regime is with an offense that can completely steamroll the competition. We need someone other than Allen that can make the clutch play at the end. No more half measures. Go all in on giving Allen an offensive cast worthy of his talent.

I'll get bashed for this, because we're only allowed to criticize McDermott and not Bean, but his return on investment right now, when it comes to Dline and pass catchers, is not very good.  Kincaid was a 1st round pick, playing more like a 4th/5th rounder, and Coleman can't separate against anyone.  How is it a good idea, to draft a WR that can't separate.  Beane is not a good evaluator when it comes to these 2 positions. He's going to need to delegate this to someone.  I don't know. 

Edited Monday at 07:56 PM by Allen2Moulds

[Trust The Process]

Like Steve Smith said before the draft and still to this day, Coleman is a slot receiver.

[Ray Finkel]

4 hours ago, DCOrange said:

@GunnerBill Where are you at in your scouting process right now? Curious if you have some guys you already like/some guys you've circled to keep an eye on but haven't really finished scouting yet. I haven't seriously scouted the WRs at all this year, but just from watching some of the games on TV, Xavier Restrepo is one guy that I could easily see outplaying his draft position. But I know he's been comped by some to Khalil Shakir which obviously implies maybe too redundant of a skillset.

 

The homer in me wouldn't mind seeing Jackson Meeks as a Day 3 pick.

 

Sounds like Andre Reed