Outcoached AGAIN

[CincyBillsFan]

1 minute ago, BarleyNY said:

I agree - except for his very shaky start. I expect better of him. In a game like this he can’t make one of those garbage throws, much less two. 

Seriously who cares? Two shaky throws on the first series?  BFD.  Allen was making lemonade out of lemons all night long.  After today's game Allen is 0 - 4 versus the Chiefs in the playoffs in spite of throwing 11 TD passes and only 1 INT.  Allen can not be expected to do more then he's doing in these games. 

[harmonkillebrew]

I think I'm putting this more on Beane and our personnel scouts.

There were a bunch of failed #1 picks on display tonight.

Xavier Worthy showing didn't help either. 

 

The coaching wasn't so bad. Not better than KC, but not bad. The lack of talent on the team really showed more. 

[Best Williams Available]

11 minutes ago, Matt_In_NH said:

 

Yeah I left, trips right, qb fall throw up a prayer shoudl be removed from the playbook.  Cant believe they designed the play that way

Dude the orbit to Shakir was wide open away from pressure but Josh starts running backward like an idiot instead. Would of gotten us in FG range immediately.

[BillMafia716ix]

11 minutes ago, CincyBillsFan said:

Nonsense.  Allen threw a TD on 4th down to tie the game up, converted multiple 4th downs and kept the Bills in the game time after time.  That end of the 1st half TD drive was the definition of a winning play.  And on his last pass Allen put the ball on the hands of his TE at the KC 25 ad the ball was dropped. There is nothing a reasonable fan could have expected from Allen today.  NOTHING.  To suggests otherwise is to display a complete lack football knowledge. 

 

 

If you watched that game and think Josh played his best you outta your mind. They neeed his best game and he didn’t deliever. Still had a chance at the end to win it with 3 mins left with timeouts and didn’t deliver. 

[Comebackkid]

same things we have seen all season for the most part.

 

the D line cannot get pressure with out blitzing and even then its no guarante.   

watching the D so many times i like..u guys are just dumb..   they fall for the same things over and over.   

time and time again the time it takes them to react to a play is mind boggling.   I know we need an upgrade of 

some players but i think some of it has to fall on coaching.

 

Joe Brady..   the dude has one gear...one plan.   I've said it  before..we get so caught up running the ball we forget we still need 

some variety...we still need to use it to set up the pass.   we still need to maybe use the arm of the superstar qb.

watching the offensive plays i am constantly wondering what they actually practice during the week.

again like the Defense they do the same stupid things over and over.  twice this year ( atleast) they have used a horrible fade to the corner when 

its a do or die situation...

and speaking of do or die situations...there is no special..this is our we have to have this play for the game....infact the worse we need the points 

it  seems like the worse the play calling is. 

 

 

 

[Since1981]

Loss two yrs in a row by 3 to KC? that is coaching. (That doesn’t include :13)

[Beast]

39 minutes ago, Roundybout said:

He made perfect adjustments in the second half and got major stops. If you blame McD for this, you don’t know football. Period.

What I do know is the Chiefs scored a season high in points tonight with the Bills not giving them any short fields.

2 minutes ago, Since1981 said:

Loss two yrs in a row by 3 to KC? that is coaching. (That doesn’t include :13)

I don’t blame McDermott for last season. The Bills had a MASH unit on defense and had the ball with 2 minutes to go and a chance to win the game deep in Chiefs territory. You couldn’t ask for more than that. Sure, the fake punt was bad but he kept a banged up Bills team in the game.

Edited Monday at 03:43 AM by Beast

[Since1981]

1 minute ago, Since1981 said:

 

Loss two yrs in a row by 3 to KC? that is coaching. (That doesn’t include :13)

 

Really do have to suggest 3 pts each yr is attributable to coaching, decisions. 

[CircleTheWagons99]

Same old story. 

[CincyBillsFan]

2 minutes ago, BillMafia716ix said:

If you watched that game and think Josh played his best you outta your mind. They neeed his best game and he didn’t deliever. Still had a chance at the end to win it with 3 mins left with timeouts and didn’t deliver. 

It is not reasonable to expect Allen to have to play his BEST game every week.  It will never happen because IT CAN'T HAPPEN. Haven't you been listening to Greg Cosell? Allen played great tonight but he was Batman instead of Super Man.  And hell if Kincaid holds on to the ball, as any NFL receiver should have, we would be calling Allen Superman.

 

You better hope that Allen never figures out that the only way hes getting to a Super Bowl is to play like Superman in every playoff game.  Because if he does he might decide to get out of town before he turns into Dan Fouts or Dan Marino.

 

 

[Since1981]

9 minutes ago, harmonkillebrew said:

coaching wasn't so bad. Not better than KC, but not bad.

Loss 3 pts this yr and last. 
I can’t see how 0 - 4 isn’t attributable to coach

[Turk71]

That 1st down run for no gain to the backup rb on the Bills most important drive in decades said it all.......pathetic. These guys are straight up holding Josh and the team back. 

More interested on 2nd and 2 with gaining a 1st down than scoring points; have the smallest guy on the field pushing Allen on their many ill-advised and horribly executed qb sneaks, as if they're mentally deficient. Outcoached 

[Matt_In_NH]

12 minutes ago, CincyBillsFan said:

You mean on the obvious incomplete pass?  That was actually a great play on the ball by Bishop.  I have a sneaking suspicion that next season Bishop will have a breakout year and become our best 2nd round pick of 2024.  I also am nervous that Coleman is going to go in the dumpster.  Allen and Brady are going to need to work with a lot in the off season. 

I mean it was a hard play to change....it was going to stay as called on the field.  The ball hit the ground clearly but that does not make it incomplete.

[Call_Of_Ktulu]

45 minutes ago, Buffalo Barbarian said:

Wrong, players didnt perform in this game especially Kincaid 

 

 

Wrong Kincaid? Kincaid hasn’t done ***** all season. What makes you think he will just rise up in a huge playoff game and win it for us. Kincaid is what we know he is. 

[Chugga]

I think it was a massive failure of our offensive coaching staff to not have a tush push wrinkle.  Every team knows we are going to tush push and our success rate is fantastic but all year long I assumed we had a play in our back pocket that we’d pull out for a massive gain.  But we didn’t.  We kept running into a brick wall on the same snap count.  We didn’t even have a wrinkle to go over the right side.

 

To me that’s a failure in self scouting to not have a counter punch to a play you’ve run all season.  It’s also a failure to assume that Spagnuola would have no answer for something you’ve put on tape for 50+ weeks

[Matt_In_NH]

18 minutes ago, Best Williams Available said:

Dude the orbit to Shakir was wide open away from pressure but Josh starts running backward like an idiot instead. Would of gotten us in FG range immediately.

So it was a bad play design or bad execution?  Getting mixed messages here.

17 minutes ago, BillMafia716ix said:

If you watched that game and think Josh played his best you outta your mind. They neeed his best game and he didn’t deliever. Still had a chance at the end to win it with 3 mins left with timeouts and didn’t deliver. 

It was not his best for sure but that is also a tough place to play against a great defense with a DC who throws a lot at you.  He was bad on the first drive, the dive over the top for the QB sneak was pretty much guaranteed to be a fumble, bad play there by Josh.....He also did not hurt them too bad, he played well enough to win.

 

Here is the thing with Josh, when he gets in a check mate situation he will do wild things.....they needed to stop the sneaks but they just kept doing them it was dumb.

[Roundybout]

18 minutes ago, Beast said:

What I do know is the Chiefs scored a season high in points tonight with the Bills not giving them any short fields.

I don’t blame McDermott for last season. The Bills had a MASH unit on defense and had the ball with 2 minutes to go and a chance to win the game deep in Chiefs territory. You couldn’t ask for more than that. Sure, the fake punt was bad but he kept a banged up Bills team in the game.

They gave up 11 points in the second half and had two or three clutch stops. 

[brianthomas]

as for the coaching, yeah McDermott isn't as good as Reid, but look at the Buffalo Sabres & be thankful for what you got with the Bills, because it could be worse.

We just have to hope that Sean continues to work on himself & improve, just as we do for the rest of the roster.

Given what most of us forecasted this season to be, i'd say they overachieved this year, given their deficiencies coming into the year.

I know we all hate to hear it but: NEXT YEAR IS THE YEAR! 🤣

[Chugga]

James Cook had 13 carries for 85 yards.  That’s a coaching failure in every aspect.  I’d like to know what this game would have looked like with him having 25 carries.

[Jimmy Harris 69]

We need safeties that make big plays.  Hamlin stinks. He shows up late to every play, concussed benford on a late tackle. We could have used Lewis Cine today. I’ll never understand the slavish devotion  to Hamlin, I swear it’s religiously based. Cine is bigger and faster. McDermott will always play a less athletic guy who “knows the D” . That decision didn’t work with Klein last year and it didn’t work with Hamlin this year. I know, he’s the coach, and I’m  here on the couch and but it drives me bananas . 

Edited Tuesday at 06:27 PM by Jimmy Harris 69