1/26/25 GAMEDAY AFC CHAMPIONSHIP GAME Bills @ Chiefs Post Game Thread

[Buffalo4Life01]

6 minutes ago, Andrew Son said:

Like a wide open Samuel on a crosser that might still be running?

 

0-4 is the only context needed

ohh wow a single play where he misses an open player.  You mean like when Mahomes missed Worthy on a simple hitch and go in the 3rd qtr by a good 3 yards?  It happens.  Some people just don't know how good they have it when it's right in front of their face.  SMH

4 minutes ago, 78thealltimegreat said:

Yeh but Samuel should have caught the ball even if he didn’t lead him a 30 million dollar receiver makes that catch and makes that 3 and 3 not 3 and 10 

Again, a little context goes a long ways.  Thank you for expanding upon the one play that bozo pointed out.  

[waterglass]

Is Coach McDermott and Beane Running a Day Care Center for the Players? 

 

Oh we all love one another, collect millions and always fluff up in the moment and dance to the brightside tunes. We also love and support our adversaries like the Chiefs and we trade with them, whenever they ask us to.  Bills traded them our 1st draft choice so they drafted Mahomes and Worthy. 

 

Just brilliant during the Pegula ownership tenure. Ralph would never allow that. 

[zow2]

We just wasted so much time in the first Qtr and half the 2nd trying to figure out how to stop KC and how to move the ball on them.  We were clearly outcoached for a while and that sucks.  I thought our staff was better than that, but again, Mahomes will make plays no matter what.   The Bills could have had 5 giveaways in that game and didn't have any, so that was pretty lucky in our favor too.

[78thealltimegreat]

3 minutes ago, Buffalo4Life01 said:

ohh wow a single play where he misses an open player.  You mean like when Mahomes missed Worthy on a simple hitch and go in the 3rd qtr by a good 3 yards?  It happens.  Some people just don't know how good they have it when it's right in front of their face.  SMH

Again, a little context goes a long ways.  Thank you for expanding upon the one play that bozo pointed out.  

Welcome people talk about Josh not leading Samuel sure but the ball was right in Samuel’s hands for an easy 7 yard completion. We could even get into the play before that Kincaid dropped for 20 yard gain down the field. 

[Big Turk]

26 minutes ago, Carptom1 said:

I agree 100%… Allen was not your problem. Again you were out schemed by better coaches. When you guys got into a hurry up and ran it down our throats after half I thought we were done. Our line was getting gassed and I really thought we were going home. Then for whatever reason it was gone. Just like last year against the Ravens. 

 

 

 

It really drives me up a wall our D holds the Chiefs down every year in the regular season to 20ish points and wins but then in the playoffs it's like we never saw them before and have no idea how to play defense against them.

 

We will never win until we figure out how to play defense against them in the playoffs like we do in the regular season.

[zow2]

Bills knew Spags had pulled all safeties in and was bringing the blitz on just about every play...I thought the best way to beat this was to roll Allen out and he either scrambles, passes to a RB ahead of him or hits a wideout about 10 yds deep or on a crosser...but those repeated up the gut run calls or keepers sealed their doom...poor play calling and a waste of Josh Allen's talents.  If you watch KC playoff games, you know they are aggressive especially with the game on the line.  We were not.

[Generic_Bills_Fan]

10 minutes ago, Big Turk said:

 

It really drives me up a wall our D holds the Chiefs down every year in the regular season to 20ish points and wins but then in the playoffs it's like we never saw them before and have no idea how to play defense against them.

 

We will never win until we figure out how to play defense against them in the playoffs like we do in the regular season.

Regular season is almost always all hands on deck health wise then we almost always lose our best corner for the rematch like clockwork lol. Cb depth seems like a huge issue come playoff time.  13 second game we had tre for the regular season and no tre playoffs, starting cbs were Dane Jackson/Levi Wallace.  
 

last year we lost the whole freakin LB room for the playoffs but corner was ok

 

this year benford went down for the playoffs and we were left with Douglas and elam/lewis which takes you from a solid corner duo to one of the worst in the league.  
 

really gotta figure the depth out one cb injury shouldn’t be doing that. 

Edited Monday at 02:58 PM by Generic_Bills_Fan

[Buffalo4Life01]

12 minutes ago, 78thealltimegreat said:

Welcome people talk about Josh not leading Samuel sure but the ball was right in Samuel’s hands for an easy 7 yard completion. We could even get into the play before that Kincaid dropped for 20 yard gain down the field. 

100%  Kincaid had at WORST a 50/50 shot at that ball. hit him in the hands before any contact was made.  Worthy ends up coming down with the catch of the night on a much more contested pass.  Kincaid was awful last night. 

[DapperCam]

3 minutes ago, Generic_Bills_Fan said:

Regular season is almost always all hands on deck health wise then we almost always lose our best corner for the rematch like clockwork lol. Cb depth seems like a huge issue come playoff time.  13 second game we had tre for the regular season and no tre playoffs, starting cbs were Dane Jackson/Levi Wallace.  
 

last year we lost the whole freakin LB room for the playoffs but corner was ok

 

this year benford went down for the playoffs and we were left with Douglas and elam/lewis which takes you from a solid corner duo to one of the worst in the league.  
 

really gotta figure the depth out one cb injury shouldn’t be doing that. 

Douglas was actually super banged up last year and probably would have missed if it was a regular season game.

[zow2]

10 minutes ago, Big Turk said:

 

It really drives me up a wall our D holds the Chiefs down every year in the regular season to 20ish points and wins but then in the playoffs it's like we never saw them before and have no idea how to play defense against them.

 

We will never win until we figure out how to play defense against them in the playoffs like we do in the regular season.

 

Chiefs kick it into another gear in the playoffs... it's pretty obvious, both players and coaches go next level.  Mahomes doesn't even use his legs in the regular season...doesn't expose himself much, and then in Jan/Feb he is a gazelle out there.  I thought Allen would be the one to do that.   For the rest of this Mahomes/Reid era I will not give a crap if we beat them in the regular season.  Means nothing unless we can beat them when it matters.

[Generic_Bills_Fan]

Just now, DapperCam said:

Douglas was actually super banged up last year and probably would have missed if it was a regular season game.

Ah yea forgot about that…normally teams have offsetting injuries but the chiefs have been pretty freakishly healthy the last few playoff matchups 

[Roundybout]

I’m probably just cranky and tired but god I am so sick of hearing Sal Cappaccio 

[May Day 10]

That #1 seed is such a windfall.  Extra rest, the free win, an easier Divisional game, and the home AFCCG.

 

It is on repeat, but the Bills really need to have a buttoned up regular season and get the 1-seed.  Both the AFCC and AFCW should be a few degrees tougher than the AFCE next year.

[mannc]

23 minutes ago, Big Turk said:

 

It really drives me up a wall our D holds the Chiefs down every year in the regular season to 20ish points and wins but then in the playoffs it's like we never saw them before and have no idea how to play defense against them.

 

We will never win until we figure out how to play defense against them in the playoffs like we do in the regular season.

When it really counted, the defense got a huge sack from Phillips and held Mahomes to a field goal…then Brady s**t the bed again.

[Big Turk]

2 minutes ago, mannc said:

When it really counted, the defense got a huge sack from Phillips and held Mahomes to a field goal…then Brady s**t the bed again.

 

We allowed 32 points to an average at best offense that hadn't scored more than 30 points all year long and whom we held to 21 earlier this year.

Scored exactly 30 twice. One of those times was in OT against TB and the other time was against Carolina who was being talked about as the worst team in the NFL at the time.

 

Not acceptable.

Edited Monday at 03:17 PM by Big Turk

[Cray51]

Day after thoughts:

 

1) Allen played a B game.  Missed some throws early and felt the pressure.  Lucky he didnt throw a pick that first drive.  He also shifted the line to left instead of the right on that final offensive play.  He will be upset about some things he missed for sure

 

2) McD was fine.  Agreed with his challenge on the Worthy "catch" (probably my biggest gripe of the night was that stupid catch not being overturned).  Timeouts when they made sense.  Aggressive when it made sense.  He cant control Benford getting a concussion.

 

3) The coordinators were less than stellar.  Brady refused to commit to the run, likely because they went down 21-10 late in the second quarter.  Allen gets them to 21-16, and even thought they ran it in the third, Brady relied on Allen in the 4th as the clock was running down.  Babich went man heavy in the beginning, and gave too much cushion to receivers.  And we were getting killed by mesh concepts all night.  They ran pick plays and our defense STRUGGLED.  Chiefs were prepared for the Bills to run man and they jumped out to that lead early because of it.  Which leads me to...

 

4) Chiefs were prepared for us.  Tush push - prepared.  Man coverage - prepared. Allen rolling to his right - prepared.  They are the best team of the decade for a reason.  We are the Daniel Cormier to their Jon Jones.  They have the greatest offensive mind in football, and the best DC in the league.  Tough to beat great team who execute at all phases.  They weren't perfect last night, but they were damn good.

 

5) This game was the Baltimore game, but we were the Ravens.  Early hole, in the third we run the ball and it works, our defense does enough to give us a chance to win, and our TE drops an important catch.  Unfortunate how this ugly world works sometimes.

 

6) Refs pissed me off.  Missed calls on both sides, poor spotting (Kincaid made the first down even before the 4th down sneak).  Missed call on the Worthy catch, and missed a CLEAR CLEAR CLEAR hold on Hollins on our first punt.  I mean it was clear as day.  Chiefs fans will say none of it would have mattered, and maybe it wouldn't.  Unfortunately, we are in another Monday of the refs being a topic of discussion because they can't get themselves figured out.  It's a shame - it's hurting the quality of this game.

 

7) The Bills FO better have one name on their board this offseason - Miles Garrett.  Your new core didnt' step up last night, you need another piece on defense.  Get the Saquan Barkley of the defensive side of the ball.  If it costs you a Bernard or Rousseau after next year, so be it.  Garrett is sitting there as the best DE in the game, at 29 years old, wanting to play for a Super Bowl.  Trade the picks to make it happen, and go into next year hungry.

 

8 Credit to Tyler Bass.  He had a great postseason - really proud of what he was able to do.

6 minutes ago, mannc said:

When it really counted, the defense got a huge sack from Phillips and held Mahomes to a field goal…then Brady s**t the bed again.

Allen also ***** the bed on that final drive - as did Kincaid.  All three deserve criticism for how the game ended

[mannc]

14 minutes ago, May Day 10 said:

That #1 seed is such a windfall.  Extra rest, the free win, an easier Divisional game, and the home AFCCG.

 

It is on repeat, but the Bills really need to have a buttoned up regular season and get the 1-seed.  Both the AFCC and AFCW should be a few degrees tougher than the AFCE next year.

You know what’s really a windfall?  Playing in the NFC….the Eagles reached the Super Bowl playing three teams—all at home—that probably would not have made the playoffs if they had been in the AFC.  
 

To make the Super Bowl, the Bills would have had to have beaten Denver (top defense in the league, with a Super Bowl-winning coach), Baltimore (arguably the most talented team in the NFL, with a great coach), and the two-time defending Super Bowl champs, with the best QB of all time, on the road.  And unfortunately, it’s not going to be any easier over the next 5-7 years.

Edited Monday at 03:26 PM by mannc

[Livinginthepast]

Weirdly my take on the Ravens was that they overlooked us and didnt take us seriously after they crushed us in the regular season. I had confidence we could win against them due to this.  I think that somewhat played out.

 

For the Chiefs, it was the opposite. They were shocked that we beat them in the regular season and last week I had the horrible feeling their superior coaches would make adjustments to neutralize us. Last night that happened. Unfortunately, the Bills coaches especially Brady were not aggressive or creative enough and we played right into their hands. In Babich's case, He had a much tougher job getting the D to neutralize the Chiefs and Rapp going down (then Benford in the game) really killed us. He must have been hoping for some sort of miracle from Von Miller, but TBH Von looks like he is a guy in his mid 40s out there. Nobody else on the D stepped up at the crucial time to make a play and KC receivers were wide open. But how Babich and McD dont get a spy on Mahomes and he scrambles several times for 2 TDs is beyond stupid. Mahomes always looks like he is running on ice but it doesnt matter as nobody is close to him or can get to him in time. 

[mannc]

7 minutes ago, Big Turk said:

 

We allowed 32 points to an average at best offense that hadn't scored more than 30 points all year long and whom we held to 21 earlier this year.

Scored exactly 30 twice. One of those times was in OT against TB and the other time was against Carolina who was being talked about as the worst team in the NFL at the time.

 

Not acceptable.

I’m not saying it’s acceptable, but let’s be real…regular season games from a month or two ago are pretty much irrelevant…the Chiefs are a completely different team in the postseason.

[ngbills]

37 minutes ago, zow2 said:

Bills knew Spags had pulled all safeties in and was bringing the blitz on just about every play...I thought the best way to beat this was to roll Allen out and he either scrambles, passes to a RB ahead of him or hits a wideout about 10 yds deep or on a crosser...but those repeated up the gut run calls or keepers sealed their doom...poor play calling and a waste of Josh Allen's talents.  If you watch KC playoff games, you know they are aggressive especially with the game on the line.  We were not.

You mean like those plays to cook that disappeared except for one drive? We could have gone much more traditional leaning on cook all day in both the passing and running game. But Brady chose the kc is going all out n on Allen let’s beat them with that anyway.