1/26/25 GAMEDAY AFC CHAMPIONSHIP GAME Bills @ Chiefs Post Game Thread

[Generic_Bills_Fan]

9 minutes ago, Andrew Son said:

100% agreed.  People get so enamored with the wow plays.  Meanwhile, Mahomes is surgical and makes it look easy getting into the perfect play and getting rid of it on time even in the face of immediate pressure.

 

4th and 5 is the perfect example.  In that situation Mahomes hits the wide open Shakir 

Josh played every bit as good as mahomes in this one if not better against an exponentially more talented secondary and pass rush after benford went down and people are completely discrediting it cuz he looked kind of nervous on the first drive lol it’s wild

 

If he did what you said on the 4th down and somehow turns his body left to get that ball off Shakir never makes it to the line and then id ironically be agreeing with you that he made a mistake in a big moment lol your analysis of that play is completely wrong.  Shakir would’ve caught that ball way behind the line of scrimmage when Josh needed to get that ball off and there were plenty of chiefs to make the tackle 

Edited Monday at 02:04 PM by Generic_Bills_Fan

[Buffalo4Life01]

13 minutes ago, RiotAct said:

I’d say the O-Line and Kincaid crapped the bed, personally.

This right here.  The online is not receiving enough of the blame this morning and Kincaid had a miserable game last night.  He doesn't come though with that early 50/50 ball in the 1st half that would have extended a drive.  The next questionable play the spot from the ref wasn't great but he wasn't able to fight through a tackle to get another inch or two to take that decision of the spot out of the refs hands.  Then the biggest moment of the game (and yes I know it wasn't an easy play to make) he has the ball in his hands and can't make the catch.  He has been a bust so far and looks more and more like a jag unfortunately.  

[BRH]

1 hour ago, JerseyBills said:

this sequence, smh . just clueless officiating 

 

 

 

Absolutely a first down by Kincaid on the 3rd and 3, even more blatant than the 4th down call.  His legs were on top of the Chiefs' defender and he wasn't down until the ball was well across the 40.  But we know that if we challenged it would have been "the ruling on the field stands" and we would have lost the timeout anyway.  I guess the only caveat is that we would have had time during the challenge to get our heads out of our asses and find a 4th down play that worked.

 

The correct call there completely changes the rest of the game.

[May Day 10]

Did Cook get tweaked when he made his acrobatic touchdown run?  We didnt see him much after that

[34-78-83]

2nd half. Game in the balance... Our D gets Stop>Stop>FG on back to back to back drives!, putting our offense in position with 3:30 left and time outs to go win the game with a TD or at worst tie it with a FG.

 

If we were given that option prior to the game, 95% of us would take it, and the other 5% would be liars.

 

The offense clearly came up short after being given a grand opportunity to win. Its especially surprising we got those stops on D considering who we had playing in our secondary all night.

 

When you look back at a game, you have to look at the situations. Otherwise its a BS analysis.

 

Also, losing when having this very opportunity is why Josh was so crushed in his interview.

[skibum]

Lots of reasons for a loss last night. It was kind of a miracle it was so close on the scoreboard:

- Bad play calling right out of the gate, lasting all game long (where was Cook on that last drive??? Passing game???)

- Refs with about a half a dozen impactful bad calls - The non-catch by Worthy, the Offside on Oliver, at least two bad spots...

- Secondary getting smoked in the middle of the field

- No pressure on Mahomes from the edges

- Allen looking indecisive and not seeing the field on pass plays

- Kincaid's drop was not even a top-5 cause for this loss

 

Overall, I feel like the Bills steered away from a lot of what made them successful during the regular season. They got scared, went ultra-conservative, and didn't have the horses to keep up. They had the turnovers to win vs. Baltimore, but needed one more in KC and didn't get it. The Bills need a little more Josh Allen magic to win. I think they tried to hard to keep him under control. 

[Dillenger4]

28 minutes ago, thenorthremembers said:

 

I didnt say he didnt have a good game.   He just wasnt great.  I understand people here are very sensitive about Allen criticism, rightfully so.   But again he had the ball in his hands to win the game and he didnt.   Should Kincaid have caught it, probably.  But Josh also didnt read the blitz well.  He also rolled right into which is what forced him to have to make a hero throw.   

Bingo! Josh turned into scared Josh again last night. On the final play that everyone is mattering about, it was designed to go to Shakir. Shakir was wide open and I mean WIDE open. waving his hands. Josh didn't even look. He tried to play hero ball again. Threw it to kincaid who was covered. Behind kincaid who had to slide back to make any attemp to come close and people blame him????? Josh is a good QB... i get it. But last night, he was not good. Not when we needed him to be. Our D was bad too and Brady?? romper room

[Big Turk]

2 hours ago, corta765 said:

Truth hurts doesn’t it. 17 ain’t got the goods and showed it again last night.

 

Done ignoring reality, until he breaks through which he keeps failing at he is a choker and can’t do it. 

 

Think you might want to rethink that.

 

 

[Carptom1]

50 minutes ago, UKBillFan said:

 

Bull. Your hatred of Josh is blinding you. Switch QBs and the result would be the same. There was not that much of a difference in quality. If Kincaid caught the ball - as he should have done - we'd be talking about what a great play it was. Look at Worthy on that incompletion/interception/questionable call. That could have easily gone differently but someone else made a play for Mahomes. Someone else helped him out. That doesn't happen for Josh. In terms of receivers, he has to practically do it all himself.

 

And where was Cook? Where was the help from the run game? Why did coaching have the offense come out passing instead of offering easy passes and runs to ease them into the game - see the Chiefs first drive? Why did the Bills continue going with the sneaks when they weren't working? If you want to whine about someone crapping the bed look at Brady.

 

Everyone at the Bills could take some blame for last night. But Josh should be at the bottom, or near the bottom of the list.

I agree 100%… Allen was not your problem. Again you were out schemed by better coaches. When you guys got into a hurry up and ran it down our throats after half I thought we were done. Our line was getting gassed and I really thought we were going home. Then for whatever reason it was gone. Just like last year against the Ravens. 

 

 

[Bruffalo]

3 minutes ago, Dillenger4 said:

Bingo! Josh turned into scared Josh again last night. On the final play that everyone is mattering about, it was designed to go to Shakir. Shakir was wide open and I mean WIDE open. waving his hands. Josh didn't even look. He tried to play hero ball again. Threw it to kincaid who was covered. Behind kincaid who had to slide back to make any attemp to come close and people blame him????? Josh is a good QB... i get it. But last night, he was not good. Not when we needed him to be. Our D was bad too and Brady?? romper room

Kincaid didn't look very covered when the ball hit him in the hands with the closest Chiefs players being 3-5 yards away.

[Dillenger4]

3 minutes ago, Bruffalo said:

Kincaid didn't look very covered when the ball hit him in the hands with the closest Chiefs players being 3-5 yards away.

Go watch it. He was covered. Josh closed his eyes and threw a hail mary pass. Just because it randomly came close to Kincaid making an amazing catch doesn't mean it was a good pass.

I'm not blaming Josh - but that play was an example of him playing off script, hero ball and it cost us. Shakir was the play and he was open. Go watch it.

[78thealltimegreat]

12 minutes ago, Dillenger4 said:

Bingo! Josh turned into scared Josh again last night. On the final play that everyone is mattering about, it was designed to go to Shakir. Shakir was wide open and I mean WIDE open. waving his hands. Josh didn't even look. He tried to play hero ball again. Threw it to kincaid who was covered. Behind kincaid who had to slide back to make any attemp to come close and people blame him????? Josh is a good QB... i get it. But last night, he was not good. Not when we needed him to be. Our D was bad too and Brady?? romper room

Watch the replay Shakir never and I mean never would have had the first down this is just wish casting 

3 minutes ago, Dillenger4 said:

Go watch it. He was covered. Josh closed his eyes and threw a hail mary pass. Just because it randomly came close to Kincaid making an amazing catch doesn't mean it was a good pass.

I'm not blaming Josh - but that play was an example of him playing off script, hero ball and it cost us. Shakir was the play and he was open. Go watch it.

I did and Shakir wasn’t open 

[Billsatlastin2018]

As a septuagenarian, I am more discouraged than Josh Allen’s postgame presser. Allen did not come through with the Lombardi ticket. Allen is likely to go to the HOF, but is not even up to Peyton Manning standards- yet! 
 

Mahomes is neck and neck with Brady standards (and not the highly conservative play calling OC yesterday!). And about to surpass him! PERIOD!
 

But Allen was named a 2nd Team All Pro this year.

 

He was the ONLY BILLS ALL PRO! 

 

I’m not going to go through the entire All Pro teams, but let’s take the critical- for Allen, WR group. Shakir is nice, but is ANYBODY even close to Pros Chase, Jefferson, St.Brown, McLaurin, Lamb, AJ Brown?

 

Are they even on the same field?

 

The TEs (Knox & Kincaid) are stone hands (3 catches for 20 yards in the AFC Championship game) failures!

 

The RBs are okay, but not in the same galaxy as the All Pros.

 

But it is the D… where there is absolutely  NOBODY of the highest quality! Nobody. Edge, Interior and LBs are vastly inferior. They get no push. No power, no speed. No nada!

And let’s not even get to the weak links… players who aren’t even in the TV picture on Pass coverage. Frequently, giving up the classic 3rd and 9s, just like they did with the final nail in the Bills coffin… yesterday.

 

And let’s just say this. 
McD will never be Andy Reid, let alone Spags!

Aside from Allen, Beane is a bust and a minor leaguer compared to Veach!
FFS, the dude they GAVE to the Chiefs had 6 catches for 85 yards + 2 runs for 16!!!

Coleman had ONE… ONE catch for 12 yards!

 

Unless, all of that changes or Kermit & Andy get hurt, retire, etc., the Bills can never, ever beat the Chiefs! They need so much more to help 17!

 

Much, much more!

 

Edited Monday at 02:32 PM by Billsatlastin2018

[BernieBill]

13 Seconds.  0-4 against Chiefs in playoffs.  Zero Super Bowl appearances.  Motivational speeches praising the 9-11 hijackers.  Yeah, let's keep McDermott around!  

[waterglass]

Did the BILLS have the DIARRHEA CHA-CHA-CHAs during the game as that could explain the poor O line play. I heard from my brother that explosive DIARRHEA that comes and goes at random went through Western New York the last two weeks. Thats what hit Dion Dawkins during the week. 

 

Could explain Bills O getting stopped at critical plays. Especially when a 32 / 32 KC run defense rises to the ocassion. NO its not because of their coach Spags

Edited Monday at 02:33 PM by waterglass

[Bruffalo]

2 minutes ago, Dillenger4 said:

Go watch it. He was covered. Josh closed his eyes and threw a hail mary pass. Just because it randomly came close to Kincaid making an amazing catch doesn't mean it was a good pass.

I'm not blaming Josh - but that play was an example of him playing off script, hero ball and it cost us. Shakir was the play and he was open. Go watch it.

I've seen players make a catch like that all season routinely. In no way is that an amazing catch, it's an incredible individual effort from Allen to get the ball there. 

 

Shakir was open. I don't blame Allen for not throwing across his body to a receiver behind the line of scrimmage while falling backwards with three Chiefs on him when he made a very, very catchable pass to Kincaid beyond the line to gain. 

[Buffalo4Life01]

26 minutes ago, Andrew Son said:

100% agreed.  People get so enamored with the wow plays.  Meanwhile, Mahomes is surgical and makes it look easy getting into the perfect play and getting rid of it on time even in the face of immediate pressure.

 

4th and 5 is the perfect example.  In that situation Mahomes hits the wide open Shakir 

Kinda easy to be surgical when you have multiple wide receivers running wide open across the field most of the game due to a bum cb being forced into action and a starting safety out the entire game.  Would love to have seen what Allen would have done if McDuffie and Reed were both out all game.  Sometimes a little context goes a long ways....

[Andrew Son]

Just now, Buffalo4Life01 said:

Kinda easy to be surgical when you have multiple wide receivers running wide open across the field most of the game due to a bum cb being forced into action and a starting safety out the entire game.  Would love to have seen what Allen would have done if McDuffie and Reed were both out all game.  Sometimes a little context goes a long ways....

Like a wide open Samuel on a crosser that might still be running?

 

0-4 is the only context needed

[Dillenger4]

2 minutes ago, Andrew Son said:

Like a wide open Samuel on a crosser that might still be running?

 

0-4 is the only context needed

mic drop! These nancies are too much

[78thealltimegreat]

2 minutes ago, Andrew Son said:

Like a wide open Samuel on a crosser that might still be running?

 

0-4 is the only context needed

Yeh but Samuel should have caught the ball even if he didn’t lead him a 30 million dollar receiver makes that catch and makes that 3 and 3 not 3 and 10